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chrisv
16-04-2010, 05:14 PM
My rear view mirror seems a bit loose on the bracket that is fixed to the windscreen and its the only rattle in the car. It looks like it need a tighten but it needs a special tool. Anyone know whats required?
Grubco
16-04-2010, 05:16 PM
Mine vibrates very finely, all the time. I told them at a service, and they fixed it (or so they said) but its still about the same.
Disciple
16-04-2010, 05:21 PM
This happened on my Ralliart Magna some years ago. Turned out to be the actual mirror had worked itself slightly loose from the bracket on the windscreen. Have a look, there's a slide that sort of slots into the bracket (assuming the 380 one is the same) You will need to give it a real good push, just be careful you don't break the windscreen.
SH00T
16-04-2010, 05:21 PM
Awww crap, I know this one. I fitted a Elect/Chromatic to our 380. I think its a Torx 20 bit. Maybe not 20 but it is torx. Similar to the tool required to remove the airbag.
http://www.mytoolstore.com/sk/84213.jpg
SH00T
16-04-2010, 05:33 PM
Confirmed T20 Torx, you can get them in a pack of security tool as seen Here (http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/4bc82e850283bb74273fc0a87e0106d8/Product/View/T4501) or get them individually.
Have a look, there's a slide that sort of slots into the bracket (assuming the 380 one is the same) You will need to give it a real good push, just be careful you don't break the windscreen.
Not the same fortunately, take out screw and lift upwards to remove, thank goodness they are easier than 3rd Gens.
Disciple
16-04-2010, 06:34 PM
Confirmed T20 Torx, you can get them in a pack of security tool as seen Here (http://www.dse.com.au/cgi-bin/dse.storefront/4bc82e850283bb74273fc0a87e0106d8/Product/View/T4501) or get them individually.
Not the same fortunately, take out screw and lift upwards to remove, thank goodness they are easier than 3rd Gens.
Ah, that's good news I remember mine being a bitch.
chrisv
17-04-2010, 07:54 AM
Awww crap, I know this one. I fitted a Elect/Chromatic to our 380. I think its a Torx 20 bit. Maybe not 20 but it is torx. Similar to the tool required to remove the airbag.
http://www.mytoolstore.com/sk/84213.jpg
Cheers guys.....All fixed, just needed a slight tighten with a torx bit (didnt know I had one!):woot:
Hi guys,
If someone has the time, and if they wouldn't mind, could they please give me specific instructions on how to do this? My rear view mirror is vibrating and it is driving me crazy :cry:
Cheers,
Zolt
Braedz
28-06-2010, 02:13 PM
If anyone is having the vibrating rear view mirror issue, mine got replaced under warranty. I would get the dealer to check it out, even though it is a easy fix.
SH00T
28-06-2010, 04:17 PM
Hi guys,
If someone has the time, and if they wouldn't mind, could they please give me specific instructions on how to do this? My rear view mirror is vibrating and it is driving me crazy :cry:
Cheers,
Zolt
If the mirror is vibrating/loose on the pivot ball/s, refer it to warranty.
If the whole assemblys base is loose near the glass, a closer look, and you'll find a torx screw which may need nipping up. Just a fraction on tight, not too tight, its not a head bolt or anything.
It is placed where it looks like it would screw through the windscreen. Or simply, at the mirrors Base.
Ah ok. If I hold the mirror (not the base) while driving the vibrating stops. So I'm not sure if that means it is the base or the mirror which is loose?
I had a quick look this arvo at the base, and can't see a torx screw. Do I need to remove something to get to it?
SH00T
28-06-2010, 05:47 PM
Hmmmm, My old 380 day/night mirror has an exposed screw, as does the Electro Chromatic 380 GT mirror. What have you got that's so different?
No idea, I could be wrong as I am hopeless with cars. I'll see if I can take a picture. But all I see at the base is a flat black plastic type area. When I say base I mean the part that sits against the window.
chrisv
28-06-2010, 06:14 PM
I had the same rattling problem(see earlier)
There is a torke screw on the base, sort of recessed. A slight tighten fixed my rattle
SH00T
28-06-2010, 06:45 PM
Torx 20 to screw (center picture)
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee217/SH00T/IMG_0863.jpg
chrisv
28-06-2010, 06:58 PM
What commitment!
A picture says a 1000 words
SH00T
28-06-2010, 07:05 PM
Commitment = Lying on your back, legs through to back seat, Gear selector in neck, hand brake in back, Ready to click, Flat batteries in camera.....
lol
Just Jokes, Free hand Photo, Lucked out first go. Glad help.
Ah now I see what you guys are talking about. Here is a pic of mine, and it is totally different for some reason:
http://members.westnet.com.au/zoltrix/DSC03022resize.jpg
SH00T
28-06-2010, 07:14 PM
Thats a third Gen mirror I reckon, not to handled by the inexperienced I'm sorry.
Very difficult to remove off a third gen, will have to look further into that. Many have broken their windscreen trying to remove them. By not understanding the clip mechanism.
Does the base rock from side to side or top to bottom, they can take a bit of force. But on a cold night without experience, its fraught with danger I'm afraid.
SH00T
28-06-2010, 07:31 PM
Does your mirror share the cut outs around the edges and ends of the two springs as these pics.
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee217/SH00T/IMG_0866.jpg
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee217/SH00T/IMG_0867.jpg
chrisv
28-06-2010, 07:38 PM
I also get a similar sounding rattle from the sun visor extension. Have to pull it out 1cm and it stops,
Very annoying!
SH00T
28-06-2010, 07:59 PM
Any way, if you got it (the 380) from a Mitsu dealer, get em to fix it. If they any other car dealer, mitsu may not fix it.
Go and ask them, they may replace it.
But I've been meaning to do a walkthrough on this ( removal ) before, so it might be about time I did.
A genuine 380 rear veiw mirror shouldn't be too much, and could easily be under 20.00 from a wrecker.
Thanks for the info, your dealer is a New mitsubishi dealer so you should be right. I'd ask them why they put a (well used, very second hand) Magna mirror on a 380. Now that you have pics of both :)
Unless they broke it of course.
No worries, thanks for the tips. Might phone a service center and ask what they can do. Like you said, don't think I will be attempting to do anything myself, car repairs are way out of my league, lol
SH00T
28-06-2010, 08:08 PM
Hit us up if they muck you around, I have a spare 380 mirror here too :)
Thanks mate. Ah so you're saying it is not the original mirror? And that mine should definitely have a torx screw?
SH00T
28-06-2010, 08:21 PM
Yes!
That is correct!
If the base of your mirror looks the same as the pics of the loose mirror I took, then it is definately off a Magna. The 380 has a Torx screw to fit it.
Braedz
28-06-2010, 08:29 PM
Ah now I see what you guys are talking about. Here is a pic of mine, and it is totally different for some reason:
http://members.westnet.com.au/zoltrix/DSC03022resize.jpg
I am pretty sure mine had that bracket before it got replaced under warranty...weird.
Foozrcool
28-06-2010, 08:50 PM
I just checked my '06 VRX & has the Torx type screw also. You should also have the Auto Chromatic mirror which you don't appear to have.
Mecha-wombat
28-06-2010, 08:57 PM
Yes seems he is gipped with getting a ES spec mirrior
I have a torx screw type too
Is it possible that the Series 2 VRX from 06 has the torx screw mirror and the Series 1 doesn't? Foozrcool is your VRX a Series 2?
Foozrcool
29-06-2010, 07:48 AM
Is it possible that the Series 2 VRX from 06 has the torx screw mirror and the Series 1 doesn't? Foozrcool is your VRX a Series 2?
Yeah mine was one of the first series 2 (July plate I think)
Anyone with a Series 1 VRX care to comment?????
SH00T
29-06-2010, 02:20 PM
Red Book has 2006 series 1 VRX listed without!
2006 Series 1 LS and GT fitted - Rear Veiw Mirror Electric Anti Glare,
2006 April On. Series 2 VRX has it fitted.
See apology two posts ahead Post 34
TreeAdeyMan
29-06-2010, 03:30 PM
OK, just to add a little more confusion, mine is a Dec 05 build Series 1 base model, and the mirror base looks just like Sh00t's but without the torx screw! It's much more angular than Zolt's.
And I've never had a problem with vibration, it's always been rock solid.
KJ.
SH00T
29-06-2010, 03:54 PM
Wow mines older than yours with it, and now its quite possible that I will have to apologise for a monumental cockup. So I will, I'm sorry, it appears not all 380's have Torx Based Mirrors.
But, in keeping in line with the question that has developed from Fooz, do all VRX spec carry Chromotatics. ( which appear to be Torx based incidently)
Red Book has 2006 series 1 VRX listed without!
2006 Series 1 LS and GT fitted - Rear Veiw Mirror Electric Anti Glare,
2006 April On. Series 2 VRX has it fitted.
Braedz
29-06-2010, 04:06 PM
Mine doesnt have a Chromatic mirror, and I have a VRX.
Foozrcool
29-06-2010, 04:39 PM
Looks like the Chromatic mirror was introduced on the Series 2 VRX then?
SH00T
29-06-2010, 05:02 PM
So if the ES/SX etc have the day/night mirror. the base is pretty hard to move at all with the spring clips.
So the mirror could be replaced under warranty, with a Torxless Based Mirror. They really are bastards to remove.
Zolt, if you have any drama's I will post you a replacement No Charge!
Thanks everyone and SH00T. It sure is confusing. I'll try my luck with a service center first, so fingers crossed.
SH00T
01-07-2010, 08:05 PM
Looks like its probably a genuine 05/early06 Series 1 VRX mirror. Yell out if they stiff ya.
Well wonders never cease, the vibrating has now stopped. After years of wondering what the vibrating was, and then finally finding the cause, it has stopped. No doubt it will come back. But I'm not sure why it stopped.
When looking for the torx screw that didn't exist, I was madly rotating the mirror, so maybe that did something lol...
SH00T
04-07-2010, 05:24 PM
Just to look after your sanity, I had a quick look at the mirror I have in the cupboard. It has 2 ball joints in it joined by a centre peice. Maybe the balls are now gripped in a different place, Now its rotated somewhat, hence a firmer mirror, and no vibration.
You might have just saved a lot of people a lot of trouble after the warranty expires.
Sycrat
26-08-2013, 02:15 PM
Just to confirm, my '05 380VR-X (S1, I'm assuming?) does NOT have a torx screw at the base either. Only has the day/night mirror, and I'm currently experiencing vibration in a certain gear at a certain rpm (unsure of which/what rpm yet) which is very annoying..
Holding the mirror itself stops the noise. I've just rotated the mirror around on both joints a few times, and I'll post back whether or not it's gone next time I go out.
Thanks for the help, past-AMCers.
Madmagna
26-08-2013, 04:39 PM
Only the models which has the chromatic mirror have a torx screw, all other manual mirrors have std mount which rattles
PerryP
26-08-2013, 09:01 PM
Only the models which has the chromatic mirror have a torx screw, all other manual mirrors have std mount which rattles
Is there a certain way to go about reducing the rattle?
The rattle that's always there around 1,500 revs combined with the rattle it gets from the sub can get really annoying.
I was thinking of just putting some dynomat on the back of it in hopes that it would change its resonance frequency.
Just wondering if anyone has found a fix yet for the mirrors without the torx screw? I've had the issue for a few years now.
TreeAdeyMan
31-08-2014, 12:34 PM
Just wondering if anyone has found a fix yet for the mirrors without the torx screw? I've had the issue for a few years now.
I vaguely remember posting in another thread that I accidentally eliminated an elusive rattle by rotating the mirror around one of the ball joints.
Which joint, which direction, and exactly how many turns I have no idea! Nothing to lose by a bit of trial & error.
Per an earlier post of mine in this thread my mirror was the type without the torx screw.
paul v
31-08-2014, 04:55 PM
i fixed the vibration by tapping a small tiling wedge behind the mirror seems to work fine for me ... gentle gentle i thinks
paul v
31-08-2014, 04:57 PM
try a small tiling wedge , trap it in between the mirror base (windscreen fixture) and the mirror base.... wala no vibration
Just looking up some old threads of issues that I still have with my 380, thanks for the tip Paul, I'll have to give this a try.
MadMax
25-01-2015, 11:26 AM
Just wondering if anyone has found a fix yet for the mirrors without the torx screw? I've had the issue for a few years now.
Do I gather from this thread that a 380 mirror without the torx screw will fit a third gen Magna?
I replaced the windscreen on my TJ, but broke the old screen (more) when I tried to take the mirror off. Seeing the mirror was peeling internally, and I was planning on replacing it I broke the locking tab off, so the mirror sits there under its own weight. Now it comes off easy to clean the windscreen, and when it vibrates it is just a matter of pushing it down a bit. The metal mount on the mirror is held on by two rivets, but if they work loose the mirror will vibrate. Easy fix with some superglue.
Seeing it is 4 years later, and I still haven't replaced that mirror, could a 380 mirror do the trick? Do they peel internally like the Magna mirrors?
TJ Sports
26-01-2015, 12:40 PM
Just wondering if anyone has found a fix yet for the mirrors without the torx screw? I've had the issue for a few years now.
get a mirror from a FG falcon, pretty much identical to the standard magna/380 mirror but with a torx screw
http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p620/archmage2/IMG_2188-2_zpsa96f9a04.jpg
380Mitsu
26-01-2015, 08:07 PM
get a mirror from a FG falcon, pretty much identical to the standard magna/380 mirror but with a torx screw
That's a good idea - do you know if they will fit directly on to the std magna/380 button/mirror base?
maggie3.5
26-01-2015, 08:57 PM
get a mirror from a FG falcon, pretty much identical to the standard magna/380 mirror but with a torx screw
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380 GT/VRX Chromatic mirrors have the torx screw as well......
.......std 380 ones apparently still use the std pia clip mount
maggie3.5
26-01-2015, 08:58 PM
that's a good idea - do you know if they will fit directly on to the std magna/380 button/mirror base?
A 380 GT/VRX Chromatic one will fit straight on and screw up perfectly...i have one on mine
maggie3.5
26-01-2015, 09:14 PM
get a mirror from a FG falcon, pretty much identical to the standard magna/380 mirror but with a torx screw
Are all FG or other Falcon mirrors chromatic and would they run the same loom as the 380/Verada.
Because i am running a 380 GT Chromatic mirror in my Magna using the Verada loom
TJ Sports
27-01-2015, 07:06 AM
That's a good idea - do you know if they will fit directly on to the std magna/380 button/mirror base?
yes, straight swap.
TJ Sports
27-01-2015, 07:09 AM
380 GT/VRX Chromatic mirrors have the torx screw as well......
the FG ones are a straight swap and aren't chromatic so don't require any additional looms.
just to clarify :
ALL FG to current Falcon and SYII to current Territory mirrors (chromatic and NON CHROMATIC) use a torx screw to secure the mirror on the base.
Falcon and Territory chromatic mirrors will plug straight in to the magna/verada/380 loom (though they may not dim the door mirrors where fitted)
380Mitsu
27-01-2015, 04:35 PM
the FG ones are a straight swap and aren't chromatic so don't require any additional looms.
just to clarify :
ALL FG to current Falcon and SYII to current Territory mirrors (chromatic and NON CHROMATIC) use a torx screw to secure the mirror on the base.
Falcon and Territory chromatic mirrors will plug straight in to the magna/verada/380 loom (though they may not dim the door mirrors where fitted)
Woohoo! That's great news. My (non torx screw) mirror has started buzzing and I didn't want to have to fit a auto dimming 380 one and then stuff around fitting a whole new loom to make it work...
Now, to get the old one off.
Jordan
27-01-2015, 05:05 PM
I recently bought a new mirror from a dealer for my TJ to replace the clip on one that had a small rattle.
Was around $30 and it came with the torx screw. It seems that Mitsubishi is no longer selling the old clip ones.
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