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Killer
09-06-2004, 10:09 AM
What is the std injector size on -96 TE 3-L 24-V?
Mitsu doesn't know....!!! What DO they know!
BOosted' BOoya
09-06-2004, 10:20 AM
not sure of the exact flow as far as "CC" is conserned, but they are good for up to around 330hp as we have figured out, when they start to show their weak point.
not sure if this means 330cc? as ive heard that term used before between dallas and i.
i know we are upgrading to around 750/880cc injectors when we find a supplier.
not sure if hp acheivabvle is their CC rating.
tooSlow
09-06-2004, 12:16 PM
CC is cubic centimetres, and I believe it is the cc (more commonly known as ml - millilitres) flowed in a one minute period.
So a 330cc injector will flow 1/3 of a litre (330ml) in a minute, a 500cc injector will flow 1/2 a litre in a minute.
millert85
09-06-2004, 12:16 PM
cc stands for cubic centimetre or millilitre... its the flow capacity of the injector. i think they use per minute. ie. 330cc injectors can flow 330mL of fuel per minute.
Tim
Killer
09-06-2004, 02:53 PM
Yep,that's what the CC's mean. But what is the CC rating then? 330? Or is that a guess?
If Ben reckons STD injectors are good for up to 330 hp (on engine?) then that is quite sufficient, I reckon.... Unless I'm plannig to install 4-turbo. :shock:
cc stands for cubic centimetre or millilitre... its the flow capacity of the injector. i think they use per minute. ie. 330cc injectors can flow 330mL of fuel per minute.
Tim
BOosted' BOoya
09-06-2004, 03:25 PM
Yep,that's what the CC's mean. But what is the CC rating then? 330? Or is that a guess?
If Ben reckons STD injectors are good for up to 330 hp (on engine?) then that is quite sufficient, I reckon.... Unless I'm plannig to install 4-turbo. :shock:
no, that was 330hp at the wheels. so man, a rough est. of around 300kw engine :bowdown:
as attached the dyno and the point that shows the injectors just wont flow no more :cry:
in the dyno, the line that the "max injector flow" is refering to is when the A/F ratio leans out really bad. meaning, as much fuel as we try to push via the haltech, the injectors are just not upto the job!
Ben.
DeMonio
09-06-2004, 04:04 PM
Standard injectors are 210cc or about thats.
Altera98
09-06-2004, 04:50 PM
generally they say that stock injectors can handle up to 30% power gain over stock, so apply that to V6 magnas and that would flow to around 200Kw. i guerss that applies to n/a power and not turbo thats more efficient, and of course dosent apply exactly with every car
Phonic
10-06-2004, 07:16 AM
generally they say that stock injectors can handle up to 30% power gain over stock, so apply that to V6 magnas and that would flow to around 200Kw. i guerss that applies to n/a power and not turbo thats more efficient, and of course dosent apply exactly with every car
If anything turbos need more fuel as they are compressing alot more air
Altera98
10-06-2004, 10:43 AM
turbos do need more fuel, but what i mean is they r still a lot more fuel efficient in making big power than the n/a way like "no replacement for displacement"
Phonic
10-06-2004, 11:10 AM
turbos do need more fuel, but what i mean is they r still a lot more fuel efficient in making big power than the n/a way like "no replacement for displacement"
When you turbo a car you virtually increase it's displacment, meaning you will be using more fuel, wich ever way you go: more power = more fuel. The only time a turbo is more efficient is when it's running off boost and not using as much fuel, whereas a highlly tuned N/A would prolly be guzzling fuel at lower rpm becuase it's out of it's efficiency range (relativlly speaking) :D
Altera98
10-06-2004, 11:28 AM
that would be why high power modded turbos get used as daily drivers and pro-stock V8 street machines dont :cool:
Phonic
10-06-2004, 12:29 PM
pro-stock V8 street machines dont :cool:
No they don't, but worked M3s, Various tuned Type R Hondas do, and not to mention lots of highlly tuned Alphas like the 250kW 3.5 156s in the UK.
Then theres GT3s, NSXs and whatnot. All these cars chew through fuel when driven hard :D
Altera98
10-06-2004, 12:46 PM
haha if u can afford those cars u can afford the fuel! but efi makes a huge difference to how economy u can get just cruising, i was thinking of loud lumpy old school V8's that stall if u try and do 60kmh in any gear higher than 2nd.. and fill up at evry fuel station u see lol
Phonic
10-06-2004, 01:13 PM
haha if u can afford those cars u can afford the fuel! but efi makes a huge difference to how economy u can get just cruising, i was thinking of loud lumpy old school V8's that stall if u try and do 60kmh in any gear higher than 2nd.. and fill up at evry fuel station u see lol
Yeah your right lol , Hahaha my mate has an XB GT thats had some heavy work done to it and it idles like it's on drugs, lumpy as, you have to hold the brake and accelerator while our of gear to keep it running when it's cold otherwise it'll stall on the spot....and fuel, dam it can drink the stuff, a full tank (long range GT tank remember so we're talking about 125litres) will last about 20 mins thrashing around :shock: , no thanks...turbo all the way, power when you wan't low boost and economy when you don't :P
BOosted' BOoya
10-06-2004, 02:30 PM
turbo all the way, power when you wan't low boost and economy when you don't
BOOYA to that. :cool: im now getting around 610km out of my new 85L tank averaging around 140 (from adel to alice) :cool: drive it hard round town i still see the otherside of 500 :cool:
BOOST ME UP SCOTTY!
Altera98
10-06-2004, 04:11 PM
well see about that when u get your big injectors :badgrin:
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