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robssei
02-05-2010, 04:34 PM
Hey just wondering if anyone has done the autoheadlights mod? i can get a switch from a 3rd gen shape diamante that has the "auto" point on switch, and the sensor that goes in dash, where the sensor for our aircon is (think its for auto air) i compared wires and the auto stalk has one extra wire and im wondering whether its a matter of having the right sensor and adding an extra wire to it, or would there be an extra relay etc? I presume the sensor that senses the light also still completes its tasks for auto air. anyone have any ideas??

doddski
02-05-2010, 04:44 PM
Auto lights, have been fitted to the third gen - MCS_XI is one person that has gotten it to work in a couple of cars now.

Using an after market light controller though - but has had success using the D "Äuto" light stalk too.

Its not quite a matter of plug and play though..

EDIT - even though you are an international member, i think the same principal applies - not quite plug and play...
someone will correct me though im sure

mcs_xi
02-05-2010, 05:17 PM
Yeah. Not quite plug and play I'm afraid.

It is possible however. And I have had success using 2 different aftermarket sensors. Im not sure if the Climate sensor on the dash is able to do what you need. And it would be very hard to get the system to make it work out of a Diamante anyway. The first system cost about $20 (+whatever the stalk costs) and there is a wiring diagram in This Link (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?61418-DIY-Automatic-Headlight-Activation&p=920933&highlight=#post920933). However, I have also got a different system in my car that also automatically controls the wipers too. Rain/Light sensor. There is no diagrams for that one and its a bit more expensive. Any questions, feel free to ask.

Mike

robssei
02-05-2010, 05:20 PM
cheers yeah, i have access to all the parts needed from a Diamante (JDM) and thats why im hoping someone might know exactly what i need to get. if the auto stalk is pluged in, when you switch to "auto" lights just turn off. The sensor on dash, what role does that play in the auto air? i thought maybe it measures cabin temp, although i thought the hose and wire behind rotary knob did that.

mcs_xi
03-05-2010, 07:52 AM
Yes the thing on the dash is a sunlight sensor for the climate control. However, I have no idea of how the Diamante uses it for the headlight system.
There will be another control box. The column switch will only ever 'earth' a circuit to make the lights work. The extra wire is grey.
The Diamante headlight auto system will run seperately to the other functions on the column switch. Unfortunately, there is nil information about the JDM cars wiring diagrams on the web.

To be honest mate, it would be easier to just go to Supercheap Auto, grab the control module and make it integrate with the Diamante stalk. It is possible.

Mike

jimbo
04-05-2010, 06:31 PM
Yeah. Not quite plug and play I'm afraid.

It is possible however. And I have had success using 2 different aftermarket sensors. Im not sure if the Climate sensor on the dash is able to do what you need. And it would be very hard to get the system to make it work out of a Diamante anyway. The first system cost about $20 (+whatever the stalk costs) and there is a wiring diagram in This Link (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?61418-DIY-Automatic-Headlight-Activation&p=920933&highlight=#post920933). However, I have also got a different system in my car that also automatically controls the wipers too. Rain/Light sensor. There is no diagrams for that one and its a bit more expensive. Any questions, feel free to ask.

Mike

Is that the RainTracker brand. http://www.raintracker.com/. I put that in and it works great. It only turns the lights on when it really is dark, not just because you are driving on the shady side of the street. Also when going into dark underground carparks the lights come on right away. It turns the lights on when the wipers are going as well, however this can get a bit annoying if you just want to wash the windscreen. It is now law that you must have headlights on in "hazardous conditions", so it could save you a fine.

Installing was fairly easy. I cable tied the module to the BEM, used a DPST relay for headlights. Then spliced into the highspeed wiper wire and cut the low speed one and fed both ends back to the unit. I mounted the 2 activation switches on the lower panel under the mirror controls . At the same time I also done a little mod using a latching relay so now the power windows operate whenever the doors are unlocked. I could draw some circuit diagrams if anyone is interested, but I never bothered to take any photos when I done it.

mcs_xi
05-05-2010, 11:52 AM
Hi mate,

Yeah my Rain/Lights is a raintracker one. However, I use the 'Auto' position column switch in my car instead of the switch the module came with. Similar wiring to yours too, save for not needing the relay for the headlights with mine. My wiper switch (for the high or low sensitivity and off) is located just under the wiper stalk. looks quite factory.

I am however interested in this power window relay added to make the windows operate on unlock. I'd like a diagram if you can do one up for me. Also, I have installed a window closer that closes the windows when the car is locked. Will this unit affect your relay for the windows?

Mike

jimbo
06-05-2010, 04:42 PM
It's interesting that you didn't need a relay for yours. I had to use one as the headlights and tail-lamps are switched individually and the unit only provides one switched outlet. Triggering the headlights does not turn on the tail-lamps. The other way was to use a diode to join the 2 up and still have the ability to use the parkers on there own. Mine didn't come with the sensitivity switch, the only way to change that is take the sensor off the windsreen and adjust a small screw. I looked into getting a stalk with the auto position but didn't consider it worth the time or money to get. Did you car have it already?

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Now onto the window trick. You need to get a latching relay. I got mine from Jaycar. http://jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=SY4060 .To be able to attach wires to it I mounted it on a PCB and used PCB screw terminals. How it works is the relay coils are hooked upto the wires going to the door lock actuator. When the BEM sends a 12v pulse to open the drivers door this makes the relay switch position, connecting the power window relay to ground just as the BEM would normally, thus providing power to the windows. When you then lock the doors the BEM sends a 12v signal through the other wire going to the door lock actuator, this makes the relay switch back to the original position, connecting the power window relay ground back to the BEM. This still gives you normal functionality as well (ignition on and 30 after ignition off). I included a diode just incase the BEM doesn't like having no load on pin 28, also it will act as a failsafe.

I hope that explains it cause I'm no expert in electrics. I'm a mechanical person who works with heaving industrial machinery.

mcs_xi
07-05-2010, 07:02 AM
Yeah mine is from a Malaysian sister company to Raintracker. Apparently mine is an RT-60A. It has individual switching outlets for 3 light circuits. I have used two of them for the parkers and headlights as its law we need the ability to turn off the fog lights. The sensitivity switch is pictured in my members ride section.

The column stalk comes from NZ cars, (the JDM ones only) but they are hugely commmon and fairly cheap. Thanks heaps for the diagram. I will be looking to give this a go in the short term. Its handy to have that feature. By the looks of things, it won't interfere with the auto-close feature apon lock either.

Cheers mate.

Mike