Does anyone know if these are any good? I'm thinking about getting the parts ready for when it's time to get this done and then getting a price on just the labour involved.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350183989083

there is a bosch timing belt if you wanted it too instead of Gates

Should be fine.

Ask what brand belt and where the idle pulley's are made, I'd want a gates/bosch belt as said and the bearings should be made in japan, if not i'd be iffy

How can you tell what brand it is? I do like Bosch stuff, they make quality gear. This kit seems to have the little extras for peace of mind.

I am pretty sure that this is a Gates Belt in the kit as the seller had them before

but I would ask before purchase

Ok, thanks guys. Is there anywhere else better to buy a timing belt kit?

Yep! Go to ebay.com rather than ebay.com.au. Best if you know the kit number, try the gates.com website. Postage from Uncle Sam though can be quite expensive.

6g75 kit $65 US. I bought two belts (not kits, one Lancer, one 3.0L Magna) from the US of A for $10 US each, cost me $40 AU each landed in my letterbox.

Ok, this seems like the right one, 195 teeth belt for our 380's too?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/04-08-3-8-L-Mitsubishi-Endeavor-V6-6G75-Timing-Belt-Kit-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3ca4e3f4afQQitemZ26046 4440495QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries

Does this kit have all the same stuff as the other one? I looked up the hydraulic tensioner and it doesn't look like what's in the other kit, not sure how important it is to change that every 100k.

I would go to my local Mitsubishi dealer for the belt.

Do you really, really want to play with something as important as the timing belt?

There are a lot of things which are important and I wouldn't go back to a dealer to get, like brake pads and rotors. If you can get the same belt or better aftermarket for a better price I see no reason to pay Car Maker prices. They are all the same, ovepriced for what they deliver.

I'm not going back for services either,they just charge way too much and don't do anything to justify it.

Mitsu dealers only sell quality parts? Yeah, right. When I was young and foolish (3 years ago) I bought a set of outer driveshaft boots for $60 from the Mitsu dealer. They were dry and had tiny surface cracks, I installed anyway. (Dealer wouldn't sell crap, right?) They lasted 18 months before they tore open. After market ones cost me $60 for all 4 boots, were nice and shiny, no cracks, and are doing well. Hated doing the job again though. Mitsu dealer is now my LAST RESORT for parts!

My $40 AU timing belt I imported from the USA is a Goodyear Gatorback belt, is on the car and is working well. When I asked for a price on the same belt at the dealer, the desk jockey said "about $100".

PS timing belts have a shelf life of about 15 years, provided they are stored in the dark (eg in a cardboard box) and away from heat and a source of ozone (eg a photocopier or other electrical machinery). I would NOT buy any belt sealed in a plastic bag without a brand or manufacturing date on it! Gates, Bosch, Goodyear seem to be good brands. ("good" as in meeting or exceeding OEM specs, in cardboard box, with manufacturing date etc)

The kit on EBay (referenced by OP) includes the idler pulleys and 3 oil seals, it appears that the kit does NOT include the Hydraulic tensioner.

In the past 18months, I have taken 3 family cars (of TJ era) from central NSW to Mebourne to have Mal (Madmagna) do the Timing Belt change for me. On each occasion I have bought a Gates Timing Belt kit similar to the one liste din EBay - ie: has the oil seals and the pulleys/rollers, didn't have the Hydraulic tensioner.

Mal seemed quite happy to use the Gates kits, and none of our cars needed the hydraulic tensioner to be replaced (am pretty sure Mal said it was rare for these to give drama's - tho I suppose it has happened to some folks). One car was at 100,000 kms, the other two were at or beyond 200,000m kms.

The killer with Timing Belt is the time/labour involved. In all cases, I got Mal to change the water-pump while the car was apart - for piece of mind. One pump probably needed it (at about 212,000 kms, no leak but bearing maybe getting bit rough) and the others were probably OK.
Doing the oil seals included in this kit is a no-Brainer - the parts are cheap and changing them is quick while doing the Timing Belt. The pulleys/rollers also well worth doing, cos a failure will be catastrophe for your engine - none of ours seemed terrible, but its just good practice to change them when the belt is due.

The kits with the Hydraulic tensioner included are a fair bit more cost, and we never got those. Crossed-fingers that this cost-saving won't bite me on the bum.

One place to try in EBay is a place called Ultra Cheap Auto - its an AutoOne shop on NSW mid-north coast, and has given good prices at times (for Gates kit, as well as for water-pumps, rocker-cover gaskets and spark-plug-tube seals). I've also dealt with Ringwood Auto Parts (Melb) in Ebay space with no drama's. In NSW I have found certain Bursons Auto Parts shops have given good deals (but shop around, as they have varied).

EDIT: Almost forgot what was possibly my most useful info: make sure that whoever fits the belt knows how to get the tension correct and has the tools to do it.
In 3rd Gens, importance of timing-belt tension seems to be paramount - too tight or too loose will flog the belt to an early and unexpected death...... I assume the tension on the belt is equally vital on 380's.

If you can see the pics of the kit, one roller has tiny holes in it - a tool is used to engage those holes and twist that Roller on its offset mounting bolt hole - thus applying the correct tension to the belt (the whole roller is like an offset cam). The tool required has to have two tiny pegs to suit those holes, as well as a tension guage to get tension correct.

Phil, I have just taken delivery of this tool so I can do timing belts myself;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mitsubishi-3000GT-DSM-Eclipse-EVO-Timing-Tensioner-Tool-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem27b1a27e5cQQitemZ17048 3940956QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries
Which is JUST like the factory mitsu tool, anyway, Just make sure if you get belts OS they are goodyear, bosch, etc etc NOT chinese crap.

Hydraulic tensioners from what I read on 3si (3000GT's use the same tensioner) should be replaced every 200K. If they are not leaking though, no real need to replace it, but in the "60K" and "120K" timing belt kits from 3sx.com they both come with tensioners.

I know a new hydraulic tensioner from mitsubishi is $160 RRP so it's a cheap guarantee.

I think the Gates website quotes a number of different kits for the 380, one with hydraulic tensioner as well.

Example: for the V6, 3.0 L TS they list T139 = belt only; TCK139 = Belt + tensioner; TCKWP139 = belt, tensioner, waterpump.

Should have the same for the 380 if you care to search.

I noticed the US Ebay kit mentioned the hydraulic tensioners, which seem like something to do at the second belt change. I am keen to do the small things that are worth doing at the same time as the belt due to labour already being spent.

Do the tensioner then aswell, but ONLY get an OEM tensioner. I purchased a tensioner from bursons not knowing it was a cheap knock off one, and failed the FIRST rotation of the engine I did by hand. Was not happy, spend the money and get an OEM one

I was going to do the tensioners at 200k? I am still a bit over 40k away from doing the timing belt but figure it's good to start thinking about it and being prepared.

So has anyone actually bought and fitted a Gates kit with tensioner,seals and pulleys? If so how much and from where and how long have you had it in for and are you happy with it?

Bursons Auto Parts stock (or order in) the Gates kit - either with or without the Hydraulic Tensioner. I have found their store at Kngs Park (Blacktown area) quite good for prices mostly, and also the Burson's at Dubbo.

I'm at work at the moment and memory not so great - I think the "belt/seals/rollers" kit may have been about $160- and the full kit with all of the above plus hydraulic tensioner was more like $400-

In the Parts List thread (where-ever it is now) the Gates kits were mentioned quite early in the thread, and I'm pretty sure someone had a supplementary post which explained how another alpha character in the Gates Part Number meant it was teh kit including Hydraulic tensioner.

EDIT: Holy Crapola - it wasn't Gates kits that I used, it was "DAYCO" and part number is (KTBA-099) and I think you just added an 'H" to give (KTBA-099H) for the full kit with hydraulic tensioner. First kit I bought (no tensioner) was around $180- and the subsequent two kits were from Bursons at Dubbo for $143-00 (no hydraulic tensioner). At that time, Bursons in Dubbo had both kits on the shelf, and I thought the $143-00 was unbeatable price. Kit with tensioner was more like $400- mark.

Ok, this seems like the right one, 195 teeth belt for our 380's too?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/04-08-3-8-L-Mitsubishi-Endeavor-V6-6G75-Timing-Belt-Kit-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3ca4e3f4afQQitemZ26046 4440495QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries

Does this kit have all the same stuff as the other one? I looked up the hydraulic tensioner and it doesn't look like what's in the other kit, not sure how important it is to change that every 100k.

despite earlier posts this doesn't appear to come with the replacement cam seals.

US $$66.99 + US $42.05 USPS Priority Mail International - this is about 10 day mail sometimes quicker and better value than USPS Express Mail International at US $67.25 which will take at least 3-4 days anyway.

Therefore $109.04x 1.1223 = Aust $122.38

This Item Includes:

+ Timing Belt (195 teeth)
+ Tensioner (made in Japan)
+ Idler (made in Japan)

Brand New Timing Belt Kit for:

1997-2000 3.5L MITSUBISHI MONTERO V6 6G74 SOHC 24V

1999-2004 3.5L MITSUBISHI MONTERO SPORT V6 6G74 SOHC 24V

1997-2004 3.5L MITSUBISHI DIAMANTE V6 6G74 SOHC 24V

2004-2008 3.8L MITSUBISHI ENDEAVOR V6 6G75 SOHC 24V

2004-2008 3.8L MITSUBISHI GALANT V6 6G75 SOHC 24V

2006-2008 3.8L MITSUBISHI ECLIPSE V6 6G75SOHC 24V

Part Numbers:
TBK287

I looked at a few US eBay gasket kit and belt kit suppliers and this company does have the best prices and a range of different kits with and w/o hydraulic tensioner and water pump and would be certainly the cheapest way to get the water pump etc as well as the freight does not really seem to increase much. Also worth checking a few of their listings for the same product as I did see some big variation for postage to Australia for the same kit. They have Buy it Now and auction start price listings but before you assume the auction price starting price is always cheaper check the postage associated with it compared to the buy it now price version. You also have to be careful you order the right model as they have different engines in some Diamantes to what is available here and there are different kits for 6G74 motors in Monteros to the 6G74 in Diamantes that match our Magna 3rd gens. Similarly some of their Galant engines are different to our 380 engine for those who assume the 380 is based on the Galant and therefore a Galant is a match to 380 like the Diamante is to the 3rd gen.

Yes the US galant had 3 engines specified

2.4L 4 cyl

3.8L SOHC (this is the same as the 380)

3.8L MIVEC (same as what is in the 3000GT)

So buyer beware

This may be the best buy US $116.99 + US $57.60 USPS Priority Mail International - this is about 10 day mail sometimes quicker and better value than USPS Express Mail International at US $67.25 which will take at least 3-4 days anyway.

Therefore $174.60 x 1.1223 = Aust $195.95

This Item Includes:

+ Timing Belt (195 teeth)
+ Tensioner (made in Japan)
+ Idler (made in Japan)
+ Water Pump
+ Front Seal
+ Cam Seal

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/97-00-3-5-L-Mitsubishi-Montero-Timing-Belt-Water-Pump-/360180999762?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item53dc75e652


1997-2000 MITSUBISHI MONTERO 3.5L SOHC 24V V6 6G74

1999-2004 MITSUBISHI MONTERO SPORT 3.5L SOHC 24V V6 6G74

1997-2004 MITSUBISHI DIAMANTE 3.5L SOHC 24V V6 6G74
Part Numbers:
TBK287, WP5025
2 = 35 x 50 x 8 , 1 = 37 x 50 x 6

Is that kit you posted above suitable for a 380? It seems to be for Magna engines to me?

Is the water pump a good idea at 100k or more for 200k?

Is that kit you posted above suitable for a 380? It seems to be for Magna engines to me?

Is the water pump a good idea at 100k or more for 200k?


They actually use the same belt and I have one of each of these three in front of me (Gates T287, Dayco 94807, and Mitsubishi part no. MD358549 made by UNITTA Japan >HNBR< code 201YU32), with tensioner and idler kit - TBK287 see 6G75 380 engine is included for listing of just the kit TBK287 above and I'm pretty sure pump is same too. Also according to this listing is the same - http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Mitsubishi-380-TE-TW-Magna-Verada-V6-GMB-Water-Pump-/380232534037?cmd=ViewItem&pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5887a00815

Some one should be able to confirm. The cams from 6G75fit 6G74 so I think the cam seals should be fine too. Check with Madmagna.

Madmagna has suggested the water pumps normally only need replacing at th 200,000 mark but have been known to need replacement earlier.

I have fitted hundreds if not more and have never had an issue, Gates, Dayco and Bosch are really in the same league

If you are after a kit, I can get you a kit and send it up to you