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H3ctic
21-05-2010, 09:31 PM
are retreaded tyres comparible with normal tyres? are they less safe or anything? research on the net seems to point twds them being the same almost as normal tyres. does anyone have any insight into this?
thanks
SupremeMoFo
21-05-2010, 09:46 PM
No, not as safe or as capable as a conventional tyre in ANY area. Do NOT fit them.
[TUFFTR]
21-05-2010, 09:50 PM
As above. Do not cheap out on what keeps you stuck to the road. Retreads are dangerous. Steer clear.
GRDPuck
21-05-2010, 09:55 PM
Just to push this home again more than probably needed.
I would never place retread tyres on a passenger vehicle.
They have their place in truck trailers where they have multiple tyres to take the load if (and when) they do fail.
MadMax
22-05-2010, 04:16 AM
Used retreads a lot when I was a impoverished uni student. They cost at the time half the price of new tyres but went only half the distance. Never had a sudden failure but one case of delamination. I moved on to second hand tyres and finally REAL ones! lol Use retreads if you need to but keep your speed down, and keep an eye on them.
Type40
22-05-2010, 08:17 AM
You need to remember that when you fit a retread to your car you will make it unroadworthy. You car has a minimum speed rating on the tyre placard that must be adhered to. A 3rd gen Magna is 210km/h (H rating) from memory. So you need to fit this rating as a minimum. A retread is rated to 135km/h. So if you have an accident your insurance company could refuse cover if a retread is fitted.
Madmagna
22-05-2010, 08:59 AM
Thanks Dave, was exactly what I was going to say
Retreads are dangerous, a few years ago there was a big move to outlaw them alltogether but now they often call them remoulds to take the legality issue away but are the same bloody thing
If you can not afford even cheap tyres at around $80 each, take the bus for your own good and safety
Madmagna
22-05-2010, 10:05 AM
If I was that broke I would get a secondhand set from a wrecker anyday before a retread
The VACC do not acknowledge another important thing with retreads, the age of the tyre. Often these tyres have been on a car for 5 years, had god knows what subjected to them, taken off and re treaded. You could have an old tyre that could blow easily. Retreads also by law require a tube to be fitted, this in itself says to me that they are no where near as good as a new or a good secondhand tyre
Type40
22-05-2010, 10:16 AM
believe it or not dave but its legal in VICTORIA to have any tyre more than S, regardless of the placard. with retreads as long as the casing is S or above then its perfectly legal even though the tyre is limited to 140km/h. retreads will also pass roadworthy requirements in all states
http://www.vacc.com.au/Portals/1/pdf%20files/Consumer%20Tips%20-%20Vehicle%20Safety/VDTACustInfoBrochure6ppDLweb.pdf
there is an Australian standard on retreads, and whilst i wouldn't use them they are preferable to bald/damaged/old tyres
Thats interesting actually. I have been told different but i will take your word for it. The issue is still there about insurance cover. As most insurance companies are Australia wide i would think that if they saw a retread on a car that has a minimum speed rating that the retread isnt anywhere near then they could possible void the cover.
Still, i would never run caps on my cars. As Tuffy said why skimp on something that grips you to the road? As something of interest, i have an old car mag somewhere about that had a tyre comparison in it and they tested the stopping distance of retreads against a std tyre. The retread added about 15 meters to the stopping distance at 100km/h. So if you think about it that is over the length of a bus... Food for thought.
H3ctic
22-05-2010, 03:45 PM
aight
something to consider for sure. i currently have retreads on the car and ill get them off asap. i have a set of normal tyres lyring at home so it's no problem. i was just curious about the short comings of retreads. my car has abs but i find that the car still slides when i slam on the breaks. could this be in part due to the retreads or should the abs still not be sliding around? im sceptical about both. i guess ill swap them over and take a stamp on the breaks and see what comes out.
Ken_L
24-05-2010, 06:10 PM
The VACC do not acknowledge another important thing with retreads, the age of the tyre. Often these tyres have been on a car for 5 years, had god knows what subjected to them, taken off and re treaded. You could have an old tyre that could blow easily. Retreads also by law require a tube to be fitted, this in itself says to me that they are no where near as good as a new or a good secondhand tyre
Yesss! Any tyre older than 5 or 6 years is past its use-by date - its too hard and easily skids in conditions where new tyres keep gripping.
My own hard lesson in retreads was many years ago, but I still remember the bang as a complete tread came adrift from the tyre carcass at about 100 km/h. You can see examples of this today, usually big lumps of rubber left from the same thing happening to trucks. Never again.
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