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ashfast1
21-06-2010, 09:26 PM
Would a verada climate control fit into a TJ execitive/Advance or early model sports.
If so is it easy to set up.
Please let me know cheers.
ashfast1
21-06-2010, 10:25 PM
I have an auto electrician but not sure what he will charge anyone have any idea how much it would cost cheers
SAVAGE ³
22-06-2010, 02:58 AM
I've soldered a climate control from a TW to a TJ. For me it involved studying the both the manual and the automatic A/C prints for the differences and hacking my existing loom to solder in the new stuff. I made about 8 solder joins all up and the rest slotted in and I loomed it to blend in with th existing. Having done that though, I can say it would be safer and alot quicker changing the looms over which is a dash out job and a few hours.
Madmagna
22-06-2010, 03:54 PM
The job is not hard, you are far better off using a loom from a similar series, TH onwards will be fine but you also need to keep in mind the differences between the series such as door loom plug config etc etc
If you can provide more into, ie what you have and what car you are getting the parts from will be far easier to answer
There is a little more needed than just 3 servo's as well BTW
MagnaP.I
22-06-2010, 04:21 PM
The job is not hard, you are far better off using a loom from a similar series, TH onwards will be fine but you also need to keep in mind the differences between the series such as door loom plug config etc etc
If you can provide more into, ie what you have and what car you are getting the parts from will be far easier to answer
There is a little more needed than just 3 servo's as well BTW
What other parts are there? Could edit my post to add them in or just remove it....just thinking for future reference if other people search so they will get a comprehensive answer...thanks....
[TUFFTR]
22-06-2010, 04:46 PM
You will need the loom from the verada, ideally you'd want the rada to be in the same line as yours, but if its not you may have some issues with the plugse - i.e. unit from a KE and your car is a TJ, so then you'll need to consult the wiring diagrams to find the proper cables and solder it onto your plug....apart from that you'll obviously need the control unit and 3 actuators located above the vents in the dash itself....its not a massive job but will probs require the better part of an afternoon to do it....plenty of people have done it - do a search for some threads about it....apart from that the unit will do most of the other work.....
Kovac, you really need to stop posting information when you've had not one bit of experience doing it yourself.
You will need at minimum all the boxes, loom, and CC face, "not a massive job" is an understatement.
Although madmagna can confirm this, but pretty sure you would then need the A/C degassed/Regassed (if you do need the CC boxes) and also have the cooling system bled after re-installation of the heaterboxes.
postie
24-10-2010, 11:12 AM
im interested in confirmation on this as im keen to go ahead and do the same job, just need to know what parts to track down
bthology
24-10-2010, 11:20 AM
I've soldered a climate control from a TW to a TJ. For me it involved studying the both the manual and the automatic A/C prints for the differences and hacking my existing loom to solder in the new stuff. I made about 8 solder joins all up and the rest slotted in and I loomed it to blend in with th existing. Having done that though, I can say it would be safer and alot quicker changing the looms over which is a dash out job and a few hours.
Did your TJ originally come with climate?
I thought they were interchangeable
SAVAGE ³
24-10-2010, 11:31 AM
My TJ didn't come with C/C. So I soldered it in. I probably went around doing it the harder way. You're better off jsut ripping the dash out and changing the B and C looms. The hardest part of it for me was trying to remove the water temp sensor, in fact I didn't even bother with it. I couldn't remove it from source car.
The units from TJ and TL/W are interchangable - they have the same plugs.
Madmagna
24-10-2010, 11:41 AM
im interested in confirmation on this as im keen to go ahead and do the same job, just need to know what parts to track down
The parts are easy ro source. Let me know what model and will pm you a quote
postie
24-10-2010, 11:56 AM
well its a TE 97 but its gonna have all wiring and ECU from a TH sports
Madmagna
24-10-2010, 08:44 PM
well its a TE 97 but its gonna have all wiring and ECU from a TH sports
You will need to use ALL of the wiring and will also have issues if you do not use the airbags as the car will have a fit leaving your security light on and a chime for about 30 seconds after start up if it can not see the SRS Ecu
You will need to use ALL of the wiring and will also have issues if you do not use the airbags as the car will have a fit leaving your security light on and a chime for about 30 seconds after start up if it can not see the SRS Ecu
Thought I'd post a slight update on this one, we were doing a climate conversion to my mates car yesterday and during testing the climate gear, we discovered the whole security light/chiming as the SRS was disconnected during testing.
Now, I had done the exact same thing to my car in the past with no chiming, we later discovered it is a TJ-onwards feature that requires an interconnect between SRS/BEM. If you are using a H-series BEM, it will not chime. The feature is apparently "unlock doors on airbag deployment" contained within the BEM.
What this means is if you are to fit a TJ BEM to a TH without changing/modifying looms, you will encounter the security light thing.
Madmagna
18-12-2011, 12:56 PM
OR you should just use the TJ drivers side airbag, terminate the passenger side. Also remember that the front loom on the H series and the J series are not compatable. In short, if you use a J series dash loom, you need to change the front loom as well.
Best way to do this properly is make sure, as I have stated above, that you use the loom out of what ever series you have ie E, F H, or J and with the J series, if you have a series 1 and you use a Series 2 dash loom, then you will need to change the lhs front door loom as well
One more thing to mention with J-series looms when doing the climate control mod, there was a difference in the passenger side door plug between TJ S1/MY02 and TJ S2. The S1/MY02 uses a 3-row plug, the S2 uses a 2-row plug. This one kind of caught us by surprise as we had heard the J-J loom was plug and play. There are 2 ways to combat this.
1. Replace the passenger side door loom
2. Repin the loom (This was our option as we had no passenger side loom available)
As above the with SRS system, the H-series uses a different SRS system (different plugs, different ecu, no BEM interconnect) and if you change to J-series looms, you will need to replace the SRS ECU. I had my SRS disconnected for a couple weeks while sourcing a new ECU.
Above comments regarding ECU/BEM swaps was mainly referring to people replacing their TH ECU with a TJ one in order to reflash, and replacing keys/barrels to retain immoblizer (I believe this happened to MCS_XI during his tippy conversion).
Edit: Appears you mentioned the door loom above, just posted what we did to combat it.
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