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tombo12
27-06-2010, 04:03 PM
Hi there..

First time Forum user here!

I have a Series 2, 380 VRX..love it …great Car!!! Just like the ad

One issue I have is that the rear indicator lights are very hard to see from behind when in bright daylight..I have had people comment on this and also when turning notice drivers don’t see until the last few metres so they drive right up behind me before seeing that I am indicating to turn

The indicators are on the side and are positioned vertically as well as being very slimline….i think they are a safety hazard.

Is there any way to make them brighter? One idea I though is to have an auto electrician swap the wires over between the indicator and reverse light which are huge….not sure why they designed them this way…

Any ideas welcome!

maggie3.5
27-06-2010, 04:20 PM
Welcome to the club mate,enjoy your time.....your answer in one...NO

Well to the best of my knowledge,and i have tried several things to do what you suggested,nothing works.

First real and major problem is that the reverse light is a t10 style globe and the indicators are Bas some thing..

..bottom line is you cannot just swap things over as there is NO t10 globe that is big enough or bright enough in ORANGE...i tried l.e.d,and they wont work as the bcm wont allow it ,even with resistors in line.

I am investigating getting a set of US Galant ralliart lenses as i believe they are set up differently,but if you can find a way to make it work and do the swap.....share it with us all.

Knotched
27-06-2010, 04:39 PM
Hi and welcome,

You may think they are a safety hazard but they have passed ADRs and are deemed quite safe from a regulatory point of view.

I have had my car from new, 2006, travelled 124,000km and haven't had a single problem with this.

SH00T
27-06-2010, 05:04 PM
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32672&page=1&highlight=indicator

http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=67890&highlight=indicator

Well Discussed.

Search tool still works, despite forum changes.

And IMO, very difficult to see, they need a second glance.

Mecha-wombat
27-06-2010, 07:26 PM
Welcome Tombo

Congrats on buying the best Aussie built car
Where about in NSW are you as we have a pretty active community in sydney with meets and cruises

I am doing the same a Maggie and trying to get a set of Ralliart Galant tails from the US

maggie3.5
28-07-2010, 01:35 PM
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/Image0433-1.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/Image0432-1.jpg

Mecha-wombat
28-07-2010, 01:50 PM
They look so hot to bad it is only one side hey

Foozrcool
28-07-2010, 01:58 PM
Awesome stuff, so all the lights work properly & are just in more logical positions??

FFEEkY
28-07-2010, 02:02 PM
cheapest and easiest option i would think, is to find a member nearby with a 380 who wants vrx tail lights, and swap them for the standard ones :)

Foozrcool
28-07-2010, 02:07 PM
cheapest and easiest option i would think, is to find a member nearby with a 380 who wants vrx tail lights, and swap them for the standard ones :)

Stuff that!! I like my rear lights lol

maggie3.5
28-07-2010, 02:08 PM
They look so hot to bad it is only one side hey

yeah well,in time i will get the other side,thing is i got this from the states for 70 bucks landed,where as the cheapest GT one i could get here was $125.00


Awesome stuff, so all the lights work properly & are just in more logical positions??

Yes,all the lights worked as to be expected,though ,you must get the loom with the light as their plugs are different,and ,yes a much better lay out of lights,and as a bonus,extra parker/clearance light in the spot where our indicators are.



cheapest and easiest option i would think, is to find a member nearby with a 380 who wants vrx tail lights, and swap them for the standard ones :)

na....std ones look crap,and remember,these tailights only work or fit with the GT/VRX rear boot lip spoiler....and these light look fantastic anyway.

Mecha-wombat
28-07-2010, 02:11 PM
cheapest and easiest option i would think, is to find a member nearby with a 380 who wants vrx tail lights, and swap them for the standard ones :)

Ok Keith not

Foozrcool
28-07-2010, 02:13 PM
Have you priced these new through Mitsi parts US?

FFEEkY
28-07-2010, 02:15 PM
haha guys! not what i'd do, i prefer the vrx lights myself, but for some its function over style :P

maggie3.5
28-07-2010, 02:18 PM
Have you priced these new through Mitsi parts US?

think Mecha priced them at R.J.Hill or some one,im sure he will confirm,please...and they were about $141.00 each,and i dont know if that included the loom or not,as i said before,you need that as well.

maggie3.5
28-07-2010, 02:22 PM
haha guys! not what i'd do, i prefer the vrx lights myself, but for some its function over style :P

yeah well,the early VRX lights were the same as the GT lights in the series 1 and 2 any way,before Mitsi obviously cut costs and made the lights std across the range....

Braedz
28-07-2010, 02:22 PM
haha guys! not what i'd do, i prefer the vrx lights myself, but for some its function over style :P

Yea, I prefer the VRX S1/S2 tail lights. If someone runs up the back of me because they couldnt see my indicaters, it will end up being their fault anyway. They are not that hard to see anyway.

ix9
28-07-2010, 02:31 PM
$258 USD + shipping for the complete set, not bad at all!

http://www.rchillmitsubishi.com/mitsubishi-galant-parts.htm


http://www.trademotion.com/partlocator/index.cfm?action=getJointLocator&siteid=214581&chapter=&sectionids=0,2827&groupid=4282&subgroupid=51917&make=24&model=Galant&year=2008&catalogid=2&displayCatalogid=0

Billy Mason PI
28-07-2010, 03:01 PM
Look good and I agree the standard VRX/GT rear indicators are difficult to see. In fact I find that with a lot of newer model cars where the indicators are set inboard and surrounded by head/tails lights like VW. Mittybitty Aus should stayed with the US Galant tail light design.

Grubco
28-07-2010, 03:27 PM
They look awesome, the way our lights should have been.

chrisv
28-07-2010, 03:36 PM
Hey guys Is there picture anywhere of these. How do they compare to a S1 GT?

Grubco
28-07-2010, 03:39 PM
Hey guys Is there picture anywhere of these. How do they compare to a S1 GT?

His photo shows it for you. Passenger side light is standard, driver side is Galant. Have another look.

Mecha-wombat
29-07-2010, 05:38 AM
The green shit is some lucky charm thing

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v83/faithinpokemon/blogs/pika_facepalm-1.png

I was on the iPad hence the spellingz FAIL!

Back on track


$258 USD + shipping for the complete set, not bad at all!

does that include the looms as well??

ix9
29-07-2010, 08:11 AM
doesnt look like it, but a loom isn't rocket science to reproduce

zero
29-07-2010, 08:27 AM
Mecha, Ffeeky, Chrisv, Fooz & Knotched...............no more spamming in here thanks!

Mecha-wombat
29-07-2010, 12:35 PM
Looms are $10.35 US so would not add to much to the cost but take away the headachea

maggie3.5
29-07-2010, 04:35 PM
doesnt look like it, but a loom isn't rocket science to reproduce

might not be rocket science,but it is the shape of the globe holders that is the problem,as such,as they are not interchangeable....

MCHenry
29-07-2010, 04:49 PM
Mike they look pretty good. Dont know if im really sold on them though.

chrisv
02-08-2010, 10:31 AM
Has anyone replaced the Gt rear lights with standard rears. The lip spoiler shouldnt be affected?

maggie3.5
02-08-2010, 11:05 AM
Has anyone replaced the Gt rear lights with standard rears. The lip spoiler shouldnt be affected?

yeah...the GT/VRX lights have the lip of the spoiler built into the shape of the light,so if you replace them with stockies it will look silly as the top of the stockies doesnt have the lip built in..if you get my drift

chrisv
02-08-2010, 11:30 AM
Yeah. I know they dont have the built in lip. I wondered if anyone had changed them for two reasons
First.... overcomes the side indicator problem?
Second... I reckon the non GT/VRX look better without the 'lunchbox lid'look
Just an idea I have

Grubco
02-08-2010, 01:15 PM
Yeah. I know they dont have the built in lip. I wondered if anyone had changed them for two reasons
First.... overcomes the side indicator problem?
Second... I reckon the non GT/VRX look better without the 'lunchbox lid'look
Just an idea I have

Someone else once thought as you do... I remember some other GT/VRX owner wanted to do the same thing but NOT change the spoiler and was adament it would look OK... but I never heard from him again.
You can do it, but you have to change the spoiler too, and paint the new one. Could be cheaper if you found a base model owner (*cough cough*) who wants to swap the parts with you.

chrisv
02-08-2010, 01:26 PM
I may be wrong but I reckon the existing lip spoiler could remain unaltered. I'm gonna get hold of a standard rear cluster from the breakers and see.
Nothing to lose except a few dollars!

Grubco
02-08-2010, 01:55 PM
Yeah you can do that if you really want to. It won't match but it will work.

maggie3.5
02-08-2010, 05:33 PM
Yeah you can do that if you really want to. It won't match but it will work.

especially seeing as you have that other "cough" horrible spoiler on there as well......:io:

Mecha-wombat
02-08-2010, 05:53 PM
TBH it would look STUPID having the low spec tails with the lip

The platinum has a lip spoiler but it sits in between the tail lights and is curved out

chrisv
02-08-2010, 06:02 PM
especially seeing as you have that other "cough" horrible spoiler on there as well......
As my old mother used to say 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder'...lets face it the rear end needs something
Take something for that cough

Foozrcool
02-08-2010, 06:16 PM
especially seeing as you have that other "cough" horrible spoiler on there as well......
As my old mother used to say 'beauty is in the eye of the beholder'...lets face it the rear end needs somethingTake something for that cough

Yep something like in my avatar lol

TL-04-VRX
02-08-2010, 06:19 PM
Yep something like in my avatar lol

Isnt that technically in the front though? :D You can chuck a supercharged badge on a car but you need the supercharger to back it up

Foozrcool
02-08-2010, 06:25 PM
Isnt that technically in the front though? :D You can chuck a supercharged badge on a car but you need the supercharger to back it up

True but it would keep all the punters guessing .......

I don't like the high rise spoiler & thing the lip spoiler will look silly without the GT/VRX tail lights to match the profile.

Blackstar
02-08-2010, 10:24 PM
I looked long and hard and decided I liked BOTH lip and high rise.

If it looks fast it's gotta be fast.


Oh...I have three "supercharged" badges on each car as well.....it is fitted on the front side guards, same as the commodore.



I wish the TMR came with both......



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http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/1774/gtwithspoiler3.jpg (http://img809.imageshack.us/i/gtwithspoiler3.jpg/)
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/6434/gtwithspoiler5.jpg (http://img217.imageshack.us/i/gtwithspoiler5.jpg/)

http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/6766/tmr3b.jpg (http://img706.imageshack.us/i/tmr3b.jpg/)

Knotched
02-08-2010, 11:22 PM
I think the GT/VRX with wing is too fussy.

There are two camps it seems - those who like the VRX tailights and lip and those who prefer the std + spoiler. Then there are the exceptions - Blackstar lol (j/joking mate)
As Chrisv said - depends if you've been poked in the eye.

Grubco
03-08-2010, 01:21 PM
I looked long and hard and decided I liked BOTH lip and high rise.

If it looks fast it's gotta be fast.


Oh...I have three "supercharged" badges on each car as well.....it is fitted on the front side guards, same as the commodore.



I wish the TMR came with both......

I prefer the TMR to the GT, that is the TMR with no bootlid spoiler as opposed to the GT with it. The large wing looks okay, but looks a little too much ontop of the other spoiler. Anyway you have enough 380s you can mix and match on each one to suit your tastes.

Blackstar
03-08-2010, 01:30 PM
I prefer the TMR to the GT, that is the TMR with no bootlid spoiler as opposed to the GT with it. The large wing looks okay, but looks a little too much ontop of the other spoiler. Anyway you have enough 380s you can mix and match on each one to suit your tastes.


I was actually thinking of stacking another on top in the GT.

Grubco
03-08-2010, 01:43 PM
I was actually thinking of stacking another on top in the GT.

Oh you mean like Falcon XR6/8s had a few years back (a second black wing on top of the body-color lower/first wing)?

TL-04-VRX
03-08-2010, 04:00 PM
Anyone have pics of a boot with the lip but with non vrx/gt lights? I think it might look alright, but only if there is no wing

chrisv
03-08-2010, 04:05 PM
I.m getting a complex about my wing. I like it.

maggie3.5
03-08-2010, 04:19 PM
Anyone have pics of a boot with the lip but with non vrx/gt lights? I think it might look alright, but only if there is no wing

havent got a picture,but i will see if i can borrow Matts stock lights and take a shot.....as he has put some GT/VRX ones on his...

Grubco
03-08-2010, 07:28 PM
Mine's got the curved-edged (or Platinum) lip spoiler, if that's what you mean (can post a pic tomorrow).

chrisv
03-08-2010, 07:34 PM
I think we want to see the stock lights with the GT lip spoiler.

Blackstar
03-08-2010, 08:18 PM
I.m getting a complex about my wing. I like it.


With your dual exhausts and wings mate you have the nicest butt on any 380 in the forum.

Do you feel happy now? :)

Grubco
04-08-2010, 01:05 PM
I think we want to see the stock lights with the GT lip spoiler.

I doubt anyone's going to do that... perhaps you could hook up with another member (if local) and swap the assemblies just to see what it looks like.

chrisv
04-08-2010, 01:22 PM
I doubt anyone's going to do that... perhaps you could hook up with another member (if local) and swap the assemblies just to see what it looks like.

I'll get one from the breakers. I really only want to see what it would look like. You guys are probably right it would look crappy but hey 'fiddling on' is what its all about.

maggie3.5
05-07-2011, 09:58 PM
Just in case you didnt see this in my members ride.

Also,if you are going to get these for your self ,you MUST ensure that you get the plugs as well,as the shape of the bulb holders in the lens is different to ours.The globes will fit,but our loom wont.

You will also need to hammer a small relief into the body ,near the lower mounting bolt to create some room for the lower bit of the Galant lens to fit it,if you don't smack it with a hammer ,and it wont fit properly.

I have also been in contact with the wrecker where i got mine from ,and he has said he will keep an eye out for us for some more as i told him that there were a few people here who might be interested in a set .


As you can see ,the appearance differs slightly by having a brighter surround.It is almost a silver/grey /metallic color...

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/smash%20and%20shots/IMAG0063.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/smash%20and%20shots/IMAG0058.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/smash%20and%20shots/IMAG0061.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/smash%20and%20shots/IMAG0060.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/smash%20and%20shots/IMAG0062.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/smash%20and%20shots/IMAG0059.jpg

Grubco
06-07-2011, 02:22 PM
Well done! Its hard to see they're any different at all - they look that good.

chrisv
06-07-2011, 03:15 PM
Goddamit why didnt they fit those here!

telpat16
06-07-2011, 03:39 PM
Goddamit why didnt they fit those here!

Hear Hear!

Perhaps we need to organise some sort of bulk buy!

chrisv
06-07-2011, 04:18 PM
I'm in !!

Foozrcool
06-07-2011, 06:59 PM
Me too, I reckon they look shit hot :)

maggie3.5
10-07-2011, 09:59 PM
:hmm:................and the stock Reverse lights aren't that much chop either....


lol.........and just because i can :eek2: H.I.D reverse lights............to say they light up when i am backing up at night is an understatement.

Sure they look bluish,but they are 6000K globes,in real life it is white as..

:hmm:....to do the magna or not

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/Quad%20projectors%20in%20%20Paras/IMAG0076.jpg


http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/Quad%20projectors%20in%20%20Paras/IMAG0078.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/Quad%20projectors%20in%20%20Paras/IMAG0077.jpg

bit of a dusk shot....will get a night time shot tonight.

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/Quad%20projectors%20in%20%20Paras/IMAG0075.jpg

Grubco
11-07-2011, 02:05 PM
That last photo says it all. Awesome! But legal?

maggie3.5
11-07-2011, 02:27 PM
That last photo says it all. Awesome! But legal?

lol dunno,remember ,taking a photo of lights is iffy at the best of times,and hid at dusk,asking for trouble...legal ????

well,short of a cop sitting right behind me when im backing up some where, l dont see how or when they are likely to see it....

Grubco
11-07-2011, 02:47 PM
Yeah, the only way you'd get caught is at rego inspection time - unless you have a friend mechanic that wouldn't get fussy about that. Otherwise cool - the first reverse lights that actually light anything up (at night time that is).

XiLurk
11-07-2011, 03:03 PM
yeah, the only way you'd get caught is at rego inspection time - unless you have a friend mechanic that wouldn't get fussy about that.

SA ftw.

maggie3.5
11-07-2011, 03:42 PM
Yeah, the only way you'd get caught is at rego inspection time - unless you have a friend mechanic that wouldn't get fussy about that. Otherwise cool - the first reverse lights that actually light anything up (at night time that is).


SA ftw.


.......and ,with every thing like this i have done ,it is all plug'n'play ,so ,the "old "reverse lights are still there and functional,just that there is no globe in it and the loom is taped up and sits snugly inside the rear of the light housing.

You are quite right,the normal lights hardly light up at all,the Aussie ones are actually better than the US ones,but,meh...its probably a first on here its different ,l like it and that's all that matters.

maggie3.5
11-07-2011, 06:32 PM
:woot:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/angel%20eyes/IMAG0087.jpg

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x112/micpea/angel%20eyes/IMAG0086.jpg

The90kwBeast
28-07-2011, 11:27 AM
Hmm any thoughts guys for replacing the reversing & indicator bulbs for the standard Mitsubishi 380 VRX rear light assembly to achieve the same effect as Maggie 3.5 for the US rear lamps assembly? I'm of the same opinion here that the standard lights are crap (well the indicators anyway - but I want the reversing lights to be super bright so you can actually see reversing the car).

I know the rear indcators are - Amber Front/Rear Indicator 21W PY21W
and the rear stop lamps are High Mount Stop Lamp & Reversing Lamp 16W W16W

I know LEDs have been discussed in some detail but with a lack of success - does anyone more technically minded know is it possilbe to simply put in higher wattage globes to increase brightness? Simply just that as good as the US lamp assembly looks - don't really have the cash to spend several hundred trying to fix the issue...

Cheers & thanks,

Kurt

MAGNACARTA 1953
13-08-2011, 03:02 PM
Blame the idiot who designed them. I have behind one 380 VRX & the lights are appalling.

Knotched
13-08-2011, 03:10 PM
Blame the idiot who designed them. I have behind one 380 VRX & the lights are appalling.

:nuts:

So the Mitsubishi engineers and designers are idiots? And the government regulators checking compliance with ADRs?

I've never had a problem with anyone behind.

If we could work out what you were trying to type it might help.