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puma
01-07-2010, 10:02 PM
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mitsubishi-Starion-T3T4-TurboCharger-Turbo-Kit-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5193bca464QQitemZ35037 0964580QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries

and

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mitsubishi-Starion-Conquest-Cast-Turbo-Manifold-2-6l-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem518eeee203QQitemZ35029 0371075QQptZLHQ5fDefaultDomainQ5f100

Just want ideas and thoughts on if these would be adaptable to a 2.6L TR, or what you've done if you've turbo'd your TR.

Thanks in advance :D

man_elite
01-07-2010, 10:18 PM
I would say yes u can use these

Or u could use sigma turbo manifold

puma
01-07-2010, 10:48 PM
Yeah true forgot all about turbo sigma stuff :) what would you recommend? i go for starion or sigma bits?

puma
01-07-2010, 10:55 PM
Just had another look on ebay and the sigma kits are the same price as the starion ones (both identical kits)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mitsubishi-Sigma-T3T4-TurboCharger-Turbo-Kit-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem3ef8bba6b7QQitemZ27046 1019831QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccesso ries

Not sure how much a manifold would be though, much harder to get a hold of surprisingly. There seems to be a bucket load more starion stuff out there :P

man_elite
01-07-2010, 11:49 PM
Have u seen this one
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Mitsubishi-Magna-T3T4-Turbo-Charger-Kit-/260527122183?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3ca8a06707

Or this one with manifold
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1985-1996-Mitsubishi-Magna-T3T4-Turbo-Charger-Kit-/270424346676?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3ef68c1034

You still have to think about fuel and tune which could be another 3000 or there abouts

puma
02-07-2010, 10:44 AM
No i havnt seen that one, good find! massive price jump though (seeming as the manifold is the only thing different) they both have manifolds

And yes plus a full top end rebuild...new low compression pistons, copper head gasket, head porting, new valves,seals,injectors,fuel pump, lines :P adds up fast haha

Thanks for the help :)

man_elite
02-07-2010, 12:10 PM
u can use stock pistons just get a think head gasket will work fine

puma
02-07-2010, 12:36 PM
should i maybe chuck a new set of stock pistons in anyway? because the ones in it are the factory ones done bout 170,000kms. or do you think that would be alright?

man_elite
02-07-2010, 03:33 PM
they will last if u dont try to force my boost into it about 7psi would be plenty
but if you want to be safe
a set of forged piston are the way to go but are not cheap, if you want cheaper way to have a good motor a 4g63 convertion they are a better over all motor and as i been told should bolt up to the magna 5spd

puma
02-07-2010, 03:50 PM
Yeah im not looking for insane boost levels and its not going to be hammered all the time. So 7psi sounds pretty good.

I've had a bit of a look around and lots of people seem to have no problems (as you said) with the stock pistons when running boost upto about 10psi. It sounds like after that i'd be taking my life in my hands a bit :P

But im quite happy to stick with my old 4G54 for the moment. I better start saving :D haha
I think i'll see how much i can scrounge up and then decide on the forged pistons.

Thanks for all the help

man_elite
02-07-2010, 03:57 PM
no problem, if u want to talk to someone that had a wicked 4g54 magna talk to 86_elite

puma
02-07-2010, 04:05 PM
Thanks i'll do that :D and did ViP also have one?

man_elite
02-07-2010, 04:11 PM
Thanks i'll do that :D and did ViP also have one?

yes funnly enuf i was the one to buy the turbo kit off vip, if your interested i got three 3" catback that i got from vip

puma
02-07-2010, 04:17 PM
you've got a 3" catback or three 3" catbacks? :P
For TR?
And how much?

man_elite
02-07-2010, 04:21 PM
i been trying to see it for a bit it was a turbo back but i sold the cat to my brother and keeping the flex join.
but i made it suit the standard cat for about 300 ono with one muffler i did fit it to my old mans v6 tr and sounded great but as he is old didnt like it so off it came

[TUFFTR]
02-07-2010, 04:30 PM
Talk to 86_elite about just how much work and effort is needed to turbo a 2.6L in a magna PROPERLY.
that ebay turbo link is all crap.
if you want to do it properly you'll need a piggyback ECU at minimum for low boost - $200-$500
Then a tune - $500-$1000
a proper exhaust turbo back - up to $1000
an actual turbocharger, manifold, BOV if used, intercooler, piping - $2000+

Prices add up. Just put a 4cyl turbo in from an early model galant. much easier

puma
02-07-2010, 04:40 PM
@man_elite: Yeah i'll have a think about it and get back to you asap :)

@[TUFFTR]: I'm not really keen on ebay spec stuff anyway. I was just curious if starion bits would fit and how to go about it, you know what other peoples experiences were :D i will have a talk to 86_elite when he's online next.

MadMax
02-07-2010, 04:41 PM
For the sort of money needed to build a reliable 2.6L engine with respectable boost you may be better off looking for a turbo car designed from scratch to be a turbo. Look at the prices of Evos, or WRX, bound to be less hastle and less grief in the long run.
The basic design of the block and crank (too weak) and pistons (stroke too long, pistons too big) is all wrong for a turbo application.

man_elite
02-07-2010, 04:43 PM
well for less then 5k you can picture a galant, atm there is a 2l turbo front mount 2 1/2 exhuast 5spd awd for 3k here local

thats cool the 3" is not going anywhere soon, i also have a tdo5-16g and a set of 600cc injector collecting dust atm

puma
02-07-2010, 04:47 PM
I'm well aware of how cheaply i could buy a turbo'd car, but thats not what im interested in. I'm more interested in buliding something fairly unique and special to me. I enjoy working/doing stuff myself :)

man_elite
02-07-2010, 04:50 PM
well that a point my brother and i told my mate
yer u might spend more money doing it yourself but building yourself youll know more about your car then just building one

puma
02-07-2010, 04:53 PM
Ahk man_elite i'll have a think. thanks for the offer

@MadMax: I get what you mean thats why i'm asking everyones opionions on the matter and what they've done

puma
02-07-2010, 04:56 PM
Yeah exactly. i want to learn. you know what i mean :D

[TUFFTR]
02-07-2010, 05:03 PM
Don't wanna burst your bubble but a TR 2.6L turbo isnt exactly a new idea..been done over 5 times that I can think of.
Also, if your new to cars, start with N/A. It's only now after 4ish years I can attack almost any part of a car and work on it, replace it etc. jumping straight into boost will be a world of headaches.
Also, Turboing an already unreliable and plagued motor is just trouble + then some. Go with a factory turbo car for best results. This is why I did an N/A engine conversion.

puma
02-07-2010, 05:11 PM
no its not a knew idea i know its been done quite a few times, but still there not something you see every day.
and im thinking maybe an engine swap then, what would you recommend?

mad lanté
02-07-2010, 06:05 PM
For the sort of money needed to build a reliable 2.6L engine with respectable boost you may be better off looking for a turbo car designed from scratch to be a turbo. Look at the prices of Evos, or WRX, bound to be less hastle and less grief in the long run.
The basic design of the block and crank (too weak) and pistons (stroke too long, pistons too big) is all wrong for a turbo application.

Coming from someone that actually has experience on turboing a 2.6, they love boost and are very capable of reasonable power. Providing you dont have an older block the bottom ends are rock solid and well suited for boost, low compression works wonders too.
If you know people in the trade it you can have a reliable turbo for cheap too, just need to watch out for the top ends just spend a good amount on a head gasket

Cobra82
02-07-2010, 08:18 PM
In case you have not realised therr is nothing specific in those kits for a starion or a sigma.

The seller is just putting a different car name on each listing. It dosn't even include manifold that suits the car in question, which is what you should be working out/sourcing first as this is what connects the turbo to the engine. Don't know how the seller gets away with it as there are so many variables and issues that need to be addressed when installing a turbo in a car, especially a car that insn't factory turbo charged. I wonder how many people have purchased this kit expecting it to go in no worries over a weekend just because their car name was in the title.

puma
03-07-2010, 09:16 PM
Yeah if you read my ealier posts i mentoned the kits being the same. And these particular starion/magna manifolds are the same :) but m not interested in them anyway, was just wondering if starion bits would fit magnas

man_elite
03-07-2010, 09:55 PM
Basicly yer they similar as the starion