hello hello.
ive only started to have a look on this site but any way.

has anybody come across any decent tryes that won't have my ralliart spining. i'm sick of riding the clutch and the parelli's just art doing the job for me.

i've done a little bit of research and just been told alot of horse sh*t.
please help.

Sorry dude,

But u gonna be spinng those front wheels no matter wot u try....
The only fix is...
(and some might guess wot im about to say...)

GET an AWD !!!! :P

no wheel slip, none, never, not ever. just 100% grip :)

WSDtraction

smurf dude,

so it looks like i'm going the conversation.
i might just come back with awd with the balls of the ralliart.

i'm sick of riding the clutch and the parelli's just art doing the job for me.

i've done a little bit of research and just been told alot of horse sh*t.
please help.

I didn't know you could ride the clutch on a car with Tippy which is the transmission you say you have in your profile??

I must be missing something here - Mines only an exec with tippy not a 'art; that must be why it doesn't have a clutch.

so it looks like i've made a mistake

i've got a 5 speed manual.

i'll fix that up for straight away.

art boy. Those ralliarts have jsut so much power into the front wheels that unless you do a real controlled take off, i think you will always be riding the clutch or spinning. FWD's spin pretty easily with a bit of boot on the loud pedal anyway. Even my 4cyl does.

I'll probably be proven wrong and sumone who has an ralliart will recomend you somthing but thats jsut what i think

Falken Azenis RT215 PureSports.. they are a street legal semi-slick and extremely soft compound. Don't look to get more than about 15,000Kms out of one set though. I have the ST115 which are it's baby brother and even they are extremely grippy; they love to get HOT

Your LSD should be helping you there but unfortunatly if you dial up the RPM and drop the clutch your just going to fry your hides.

You will find you get a far better launch and far less driveline wear if you launch at about 1800-2000RPM

You will find you get a far better launch and far less driveline wear if you launch at about 1800-2000RPM

Also hold partial throttle for a coupla metres and then feed it on, don't mash the throttle to the floor.

Im in the same boat as you artboy.

My fronts spin even if i take off with hardly any RPM's.

Getting sick of it pretty quickly.

Even riding the clutch, they will still spin.

Falken Azenis r a good tyre... but low km is a bad thing with them.... A tyre that is better that the Falken and which not 2 many people know about is the Nitto 555R.

Its a DOT approved, drag racing radial tire. Which i think performs a lot better than the Falken, and you can get around 20 to 25 000km out of them...

I have Nitto 555 on my Magna cause you cant get 555R in 19"... only up 2 18".. But i have had 555R on my 200SX and did they grip or what....there is a 180SX doing 10.6 1/4 in japan using the Nitto 555R.... check them out...... good luck

http://www.nittotire.com/tires.asp

ARTBOY...

go to Thrifty/Europcar/Budget etc etc... find an AWD Magna (any sort will do...) and rent it for the day. See wot u think.

I rented one for a day ... an AWD exec... and i snapped my neck just getting out of the parking bay. That thing just had pure snap off the line. Friggin Fantastic. It was litterally a case of "I HAVE GOT TO GET ME ONE OF THESE !!!".....

And thats wot led me to buying my own. They dont have as much grunt as a Ralliart... but they do just dump all 153 or 159kw straight to the ground. No spin, no hesitation... just 100% power transfer through all four wheels. And the diff it makes to hi rev turns and any type of corners and twists in the road..... unfrrekkinbelievable.

renting one for the day was the best $60 i ever spent... ever!

WSDsmurf

PS: (and if u still want more grunt... tweek it :P, ... air out (lukey), air in (K&N), air through (extractors)... u can change springs and susp if u want... and u already gonna get the ralliart brakes.)

PPS: IMHO I think a Magna setup like WhiteDevils (which was done pretty impressively cheaply) and AWD might give a Ralliarty beating combination...)

hows it goin everyone


anyway, this may be a little from left field, but have you thought about getting one of those "anti-lift" kits? apparently under acceleration they will reduce the amount of lift the front-end gets, which in turn should give you more weight over the front wheels and more traction,

or maybe you could lower the front end more (not really possible with the ralliart body-kit i guess) , i dunno


possible maybe even feeding on the power slower in first ?

i'v read somewhere that a ralliart can go from 0-100km/h starting off in second gear , i dunno how true that is but yeah, if its wet and you need to take off you could probably try that hehe


later :cool:

thanks people,

i''l do some investigation on those tyres.

benny you can start in second and in the wet it's nearly mandatory.
and i've never heard of the anti-lift kit? interesting.

So you get wheel spin even when taking off normally??? :shock: Dammmm

Have you driven a non-ralliart 3.5 Manual Magna before????

and i've never heard of the anti-lift kit? interesting.
Whiteline have one. It was developed for the WRX's but apparently it works or fits for Magnas too. Enquire with them. Not sure if anyone here has one.

I'm quite sure Whiteline make an Anti-Lift kit for the Gen3, it's basically a revised mount+bush for the control arm which adds more positive static castor, more positive dynamic castor, and less change in the castor under heavy lateral loads as they would use a urethane bush that has less compliance than rubber.

Effectively what it does is allow much better steering feel both at cruising and hard cornering as you are also getting less weight shift to the rear of the car. Oh, and better traction on acceleration ;). Only disadvantage is extra harshness in the suspension, AND the car will now dive more when you brake.

Unfortunately you can't have anti-lift without having (some) pro-dive, it's one way or another and a fine balance. That's physics for you.

you just gotta go easy on the play pedal!!! even look into getting the snail (its a little part on the Trottle body which gears the amount of throttle application to actual throttle movement, and its not constant hence the snail shell nic name) modded so that the accelerator has more play... this is the only traction control TVR's use, and its customised to the buyer specs!

i think you need more practice taking off easy, more clutch control. i have absolutly no problem taking off without wheelspin rain,hail or shine. no need for this 2nd gear take off in the wet crap, it ain't a 10sec drag car!

to blkmagna

your totally right it's not 10's drag car it's a 13's street car. and comparing your 1999 exec. to 2002 ralliart is like comparing apple and oranges.
i'm not trying to be rude here all i asked for some ideas and thoughts on some tryes from other peoples users.
and by reading the other suggestions i'm not the only one with this problem.. :)

to blkmagna

your totally right it's not 10's drag car it's a 13's street car. and comparing your 1999 exec. to 2002 ralliart is like comparing apple and oranges.
i'm not trying to be rude here all i asked for some ideas and thoughts on some tryes from other peoples users.
and by reading the other suggestions i'm not the only one with this problem.. :)

how come its 13s? wat have u done to it? and u can easily get a sports or executive to 180kw np, yes the ralliart has got alot of power stock but its not the most powerfull car on the forum. i dont noe anything about ur ralliart so mabey u have done stuff to it but if its stock then there is quite a few ppl with more more powerful cars than urs

my mate used to have a real problem in his fiesta rs turbo back in England,solution was Yokohamas with less pressure and a strut brace.Not sure if the strut brace will have any effect on wheel spin? but the yokos did.

sorry my bad again

try this 14.78 over 400m

your totally right it's not 10's drag car it's a 13's street car. and comparing your 1999 exec. to 2002 ralliart is like comparing apple and oranges.

:bowrofl: :bowrofl:

Ok ditch the pirellis, clearly they are a problem. 180kw at the flywheel is peanuts, a 'decent' launch with an LSD shouldn't be a drama at all in a ralliart. Perhaps try the Toyos, they really are a decent tyre, I am running the trampaths, but you might enjoy the trampios.

Take your car down to a strip and then post your times. I will do the same as soon as my mods are finished (it will be complete by end of September) I will even drive up to Sydney to have a run. Mines a 98 TF 3L Solara ... we'll then see who is quicker :) and I will also post exactly how much I have spent and wot was done!!!

You really seem to have a bee in your bonnet about the ralliart being hollier than thou .... its a fine car I will give you that, but ultimately it is not the quickest magna ... tragic but true.

I thought tranpaths were a semi-offroad tyre?? Usually when people run Toyos for fast street use they go for the Proxes T1-S.

I thought tranpaths were a semi-offroad tyre?? Usually when people run Toyos for fast street use they go for the Proxes T1-S.
True the Proxes T1 (Ultra-High Performance) is the 'flagship' but its pretty expensive for everyday 'normal' street use. The trampio (Sports High Performance) is cheaper. The tranpath SW is even cheaper (and still a good tyre, toyo class it as a low profile touring).

You really seem to have a bee in your bonnet about the ralliart being hollier than thou .... its a fine car I will give you that, but ultimately it is not the quickest magna ... tragic but true.

:D

anyone feel like ice cream? lol

to blkmagna

your totally right it's not 10's drag car it's a 13's street car. and comparing your 1999 exec. to 2002 ralliart is like comparing apple and oranges.
i'm not trying to be rude here all i asked for some ideas and thoughts on some tryes from other peoples users.
and by reading the other suggestions i'm not the only one with this problem.. :)

13's? :liar: i run 12's, apples an oranges really arn't that different, even though my car is lowered, your complete suspension package should make it easier for you to take off .learn how to drive your car a lil better and get a nice set of 235's like me an you won't have to take off in 5th when its wet again :D

anyone feel like ice cream? lol :bowrofl: :bowrofl: Yes please !! ;);)

to blkmagna

your totally right it's not 10's drag car it's a 13's street car.


Have you got mods???, what are they? :P Have you got a time slip for the 13 second pass?

Finnally someone who modded a ralliart :D

[QUOTE=BLKMAG]13's? :liar: i run 12's,



:shock: :shock: :shock: so black is 3 secs faster , wonder if a red one would run sub 10's lol

[QUOTE=BLKMAG]13's? :liar: i run 12's,



so black is 3 secs faster , wonder if a red one would run sub 10's lol

thats low 12's too :liar: lol

i have to say that having driven sh*t loads of magnas
perks of dad working at mitsubishi
including awd, ralliart, sports and plain old execs
plus my own car a TS V6 manual
the ralliart had no real big traction problem compared to the others
sh*t it had a whole lotta pwr tho
but drive it sensibly and u should be right
drop the clutch with high revs in any fwd car
and u sit there going look at the pretty smoke off my expensive tyres
damn the awd gots some grip threw one around a corner
and it just sat there and held the line no sliden or nothing
my theory for a good launch in wet or dry
get the car moving with controlled accleration then ease on the power
just cause the ralliart is more pwrful than the execs doesn't mean they don't suffer from wheelspin
u want to hear bout traction problems talk to booya