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aRiOle
24-07-2010, 10:57 AM
I want to put some rims of a 3rd gen magna on the 380, just wondering if they will fit?

They are 235/40ZR18 95W

Also they have some very mild gutter rash, they are polished rims. I have heard you can just get it out with some wet and dry then use some metal polish, keen to give it a go if thats the case. They will probably need a wheel balance after that too...

TreeAdeyMan
24-07-2010, 11:28 AM
I want to put some rims of a 3rd gen magna on the 380, just wondering if they will fit?

They are 235/40ZR18 95W

Also they have some very mild gutter rash, they are polished rims. I have heard you can just get it out with some wet and dry then use some metal polish, keen to give it a go if thats the case. They will probably need a wheel balance after that too...

They should fit no worries. Same stud pattern and PCD.

I previously has 245/35 ZR19s on my 380, with an overall diameter of 655mm. No problems at all with rubbing, even with the back seat & boot loaded up.
For 5 minutes I had 245/40 ZR19s on, with an overall diameter of 679mm. They rubbed badly on the rear wheel arches so I had to swap them for the 245/35s.
Your 235/40 ZR18s are 645mm overall diameter, 10mm less than my old 245/35 ZR19s. Which means they will have 5mm more clearance under the rear wheel arches, plenty of room.
Just be careful of the offset, stock 3rd gen & 380 rims are 46 offset, the 19 inch (and now 20 inch) rims I had/have are 38 offset. If your new rims are 46 offset the inside edges might just foul on one or more rear suspension components. I use this site to check these things: http://www.rimsntires.com/rt_specs.jsp
All these sizes fit easily under the 380 front wheel arches.

KJ.

aRiOle
24-07-2010, 11:45 AM
Excellent!

Thanks for all the info, not sure of the offset, will have to check, for some reason 45/46 comes to mind. Not to sure tho.

As for trying to remove gutter rash, I have read some pretty good guides, one says to do them on the car, using the car to spin the wheel like a lathe, not to sure about that one. SOunds a little scary, also only need to do a little section of the wheel.

I have a dremel, and one says to use that, then 200grit then 800 then 1200, then use metal polish and some kind of sealant, not to sure, but not keen to pay $150 per wheel for a professional job. Need to get two wheels done, but only one may need a pro job.

Edit: Is the offset written inside the wheel?

Mecha-wombat
25-07-2010, 11:10 PM
yeah offset is inside the wheel

Red Valdez
26-07-2010, 09:33 PM
Afaik polished rims usually have a clear coat on them, so sanding them is a no-no, and metal polish is an even bigger no-no. Older rims (Hotwires and the like) could be buffed up easily with metal polish because of the lack of clear coat.

aRiOle
26-07-2010, 09:37 PM
Afaik polished rims usually have a clear coat on them, so sanding them is a no-no, and metal polish is an even bigger no-no. Older rims (Hotwires and the like) could be buffed up easily with metal polish because of the lack of clear coat.

Damnit!!!!!


I have done one and its come up real nice! Was planning on doing the other this weekend.
Thanks for the heads up, might be up for a whole new rim if it goes pear shaped.

Mecha-wombat
26-07-2010, 09:45 PM
if it dont work out just paint them gunmetal grey or something

aRiOle
26-07-2010, 09:47 PM
if it dont work out just paint them gunmetal grey or something

Yeah, already thought of that. Was thinking, if worse comes to worse, I could paint the, same colour as the car....

Might just refurbish one rim for now and see how it goes.

aRiOle
29-07-2010, 09:06 PM
yeah offset is inside the wheel

I cant see the offset anywhere!!!!!!!

I have the wheel off the car, all I can see is weight ratings, 850kg, and made in china, lol.

Hope I can find it somewhere, wanted to put them on the 380 this weekend.

Mecha-wombat
29-07-2010, 09:26 PM
Might be on a spoke?????

aRiOle
29-07-2010, 09:32 PM
Might be on a spoke?????

that's where I am looking....
Has all this weight rating and stuff, but nothing that looks like an offset


Am I going to KNOW if they don't fit?

Mecha-wombat
29-07-2010, 10:09 PM
If it fit the magna it will fit the 380

aRiOle
29-07-2010, 10:14 PM
If it fit the magna it will fit the 380

AWESOME!

Got the day off tomorrow, so they are going on!

Edit: BTW thank for all ya help Mecha, been a well of information from back when I first joined!

TreeAdeyMan
30-07-2010, 06:42 AM
The offset number is usually preceded by an "E".

So you are looking for something like E38 (and no, it doesn't mean the wheel is for an old 6 pack Charger!)

chrisv
30-07-2010, 07:00 AM
Taliking about rim size. I am looking at getting 19's. Does it matter if they are 8 or 8.5 for the 380?
Cheeers

Grubco
30-07-2010, 01:28 PM
Taliking about rim size. I am looking at getting 19's. Does it matter if they are 8 or 8.5 for the 380?
Cheeers

Both will fit okay without scrubbing, if that's what you're worried about (depending on your suspension setup) - mine's lowered on 19x8.5s and still has heaps of space. You'd best check with your insurance company in case they have any funny rules about maximum width, etc, and a rego mechanic too.
Appearance-wise, the 8.5 looks better with its massive 245 tyres (my standards were 215). My rears are fully inside the body line (with half an inch or so to spare) but fronts are about 2mm out, but tread doesn't show, just the profile edge which my mechanic said is okay for rego (not like 4WD trucks that have half the tyre outside). The tyres, being wider, might cost a bit more I guess.

Red Valdez
30-07-2010, 01:44 PM
On my stock TJ VR-X rims, the offset was marked with a "JJ" if I recall correctly - so it said "JJ46".


Taliking about rim size. I am looking at getting 19's. Does it matter if they are 8 or 8.5 for the 380?
Cheeers
Go for 8.5" for sure - they'll fill up the guards very nicely.


My rears are fully inside the body line (with half an inch or so to spare) but fronts are about 2mm out, but tread doesn't show, just the profile edge which my mechanic said is okay for rego
You could always put a camber kit on if it became a concern. Light camber (-1 deg) improves handling and isn't supposed to affect tyre wear too much.

chrisv
30-07-2010, 02:26 PM
Cheers Guys
Like the sound of a camber kit. Would look pretty good
On my stock TJ VR-X rims, the offset was marked with a "JJ" if I recall correctly - so it said "JJ46".


Go for 8.5" for sure - they'll fill up the guards very nicely.


You could always put a camber kit on if it became a concern. Light camber (-1 deg) improves handling and isn't supposed to affect tyre wear too much.

Neil Byers
30-07-2010, 04:23 PM
Hi guys,
Regarding wheel fitment on 380's, we use Falcon wheels on the race cars. 18 x 8.5 and 18 x 9 with no clearance problems, tho we do have coilovers.
The Falcon wheels are cheap and strong, big selection but be sure to use the right size nylon bush to centre the wheel and take the load of the wheel studs.
While we are talking Falcon parts, their front brake calipers are interchangerable, and cheap and easy to find.

Cheers,

neil

Mecha-wombat
30-07-2010, 06:06 PM
Hi guys,
Regarding wheel fitment on 380's, we use Falcon wheels on the race cars. 18 x 8.5 and 18 x 9 with no clearance problems, tho we do have coilovers.
The Falcon wheels are cheap and strong, big selection but be sure to use the right size nylon bush to centre the wheel and take the load of the wheel studs.
While we are talking Falcon parts, their front brake calipers are interchangerable, and cheap and easy to find.

Cheers,

neil


hey Neil I am guessing you are talking about the brembos as the standard brake system seem to be rather fragile my repmobile was in heaps for brake problems until we swapped to subaru outbacks

Neil Byers
30-07-2010, 06:42 PM
No, referring to the std alloy calipers, had to borrow some off a road car years ago at Calder befor we fitted the 6 piston Alcon Evo upgade kits we run at the moment. The cars don't stop any better, but they stop all day.