for the experience of trying im going to attempt to install my new speakers today :badgrin: i have absolutely NO idea what im doing.... but tis worth trying i guess..... have ....
4" kickers for the front dash

6" for the front doors
and

6x9's for the rear parcel shelf

wish me luck

bron

:shock: are they all kicker? that would sound great. should have a very nice sound stage. are there factory mounting locations for the 4" dash speakers? how about the doors,.. i'd say it should all fit pretty well, only obsticle would prolly be magnet sizes, but i haven't had a look into a 2nd gen dash B4

Good luck, it's not hard, but give yourself time, and don't forget to test which way the positive and negative wires hook up before you put everything together again, else you'll hear out of phase and it sounds weird. Give yourself time and don't rush it. I haven't done the dash before, not sure how hard it is, but the door and rear parcel shelf shouldn't be too hard, maybe 30-45min each.

Luck.

positive negative wires .... * worried smile *
yeah all kicker .... also am payin off my 15" kicker sub and either a 200 or 300 rms kicker amp

and an mp3 deck with separate bass / sub controls :badgrin:

Believe me, compared with running wires through door grommets, +ve and -ve wires are the least of your problems lol

They should be marked either on the wire or on some paper work that came with the speakers.. e.g. With the Bostons I installed on the weekend the wire with the writing on it is the +ve wire.

figured out how to remove em from rear parcel shelf..... tho not sure if my kickers r gonna bolt straight in.... already messaging a mate askin for help lmao .... tryin to figure out how to disconnect the wiring
:badgrin:

I think you'll have a serious problem installing the 4" speakers to your dash, that is a tricky one as i think you need to remove the dash. Well thats what i was told when i had my TS so i just put a set of 6" into the doors instead.

i got the old speakers out..... was clipped in and the clips were stuck... but now more problems haha

LOL.....this is a great thread....

Great to see someone with no idea having a go and brave enough to do so...well done (whatever the result lol )!


Certainly braver than me in any case hehe :redface:

I GIVE UP :rant: :rant: :rant:

been tryin to get the 6 X 9's in and i give up for today tis frusterating me... looks like i need to hack into the parcel shelf not a good idea for me to do it..... tis just about time for bed so i mite give it another go tomorrow morning when i get home from work

*huffs* frusterated

With your mp3 deck you might want to see if it has a hi pass filter, and if it dosent think about upgrading to one that does, it helps reduce distortion with 4's in the setup. (I learned something when i bought mine)

Um, in my 1996 KS the 6x9's went into the parcel shelf just fine. but then again i got a pro to do my install.

i reckon if i could figure out how to pull the parcel shelf out.... unscrew the silver thing that screws the stock speakers in then they would go in fine

tis all trial and error im just a real NOOB lol cheers to myself for trying tho, it's all about learning

like i said before, you should have a 'stereo install day' where all those who wanna screw up your car come along and pretend they know what they're doing but they're really just messing up your car so when you have a crash its like standing on a coke can........ :P

Its all a learning curve. How will you learn anything if you don't give it a go yourself???

Everytime you break something you realise not to do that again lol. In my old 2.4 I broke EVERYTHING lol so when i was working on the VRX i could strip everything appart quickly, easily and break free :D

i reckon if i could figure out how to pull the parcel shelf out.... unscrew the silver thing that screws the stock speakers in then they would go in fine

tis all trial and error im just a real NOOB lol cheers to myself for trying tho, it's all about learning

Use a right angled screwdriver, there's no need to remove the parcel shelf.

With your mp3 deck you might want to see if it has a hi pass filter, and if it dosent think about upgrading to one that does, it helps reduce distortion with 4's in the setup. (I learned something when i bought mine)

Um, in my 1996 KS the 6x9's went into the parcel shelf just fine. but then again i got a pro to do my install.

She's running 4" along with 6" in the fronts, so high passing the whole front stage at the head unit is going to kill bass to the 6"s... Better off to run inline capacitors on the 4" speakers to block the bass. I'm not sure how she's running 3 pairs of speakers off a head unit with no amp, but I presume the 4" and 6" will be running off the front channels (somehow).

if ya cant tell tek i know nothing i know only wht i have and what i ahve coming..... it's just a matter of gettin it all in and then adding whatever needs ....

inline capacitator what the???? LOL

gonna give it another go tomorrow .... i just dont like breaking things it pisses me off :badgrin:

Replacing the 4" dash speakers are extremely easy. All you need to do is pry the grille out using a small flathead screwdriver.

Although i just realised that you have a KS, so that means you have the 6.5" speakers on your doors, meaning there is probably nothing in the 4" dash mounts?????

If thats the case, there might not be any wiring at all ( i could be wrong, i dont have a Verada), which means you'll need to put in wiring yourself.

Regarding the inline capacitor issue, it is highly recommended you put one (or something similar) in, it acts as a high pass filter, ie. allowing only high(er) frequencies to pass through, and stopping the bass frequencies. The reason for this is 4" speakers have a high tendency to distort because they weren't meant to handle low bass for such small things.

You may want to buy a passive crossover instead (which is basically a capacitor inside anyway, but is premade and stuff...) or an active 2-way crossover.

hey guys.... just wonderin.... im tryin to pull the doors apart to try and mount my 6".... undone all the screws do i need to take apart nething that would prevent it from coming off??? also im about to start on the 6 X 9's attempt 2 im determined this is not gonna get the better of me lol

hey guys.... just wonderin.... im tryin to pull the doors apart to try and mount my 6".... undone all the screws do i need to take apart nething that would prevent it from coming off??? also im about to start on the 6 X 9's attempt 2 im determined this is not gonna get the better of me lol
Hey,

To mount the rear 6x9's you do need to remove the 6" template thats there to hold the 6"
factory speakers. Once thats removed, you shouldn't have any problems. I've got Pioneer 6x9's at the back with the original square speaker grill because I couldn't be bothered with
cutting a bigger hole.

The negative wires for the factory loom has a grey or white line down the centre of it. The
+ve one is a solid colour.

The front doors might only be big enough for a 5.5" speaker, you may need spacers to fit the
6" speakers.

If you are using the existing wiring then the dash speakers should already have an inline high
pass filter (at least I was told at the time when I was doing mine).

Good luck with the install.

vlad i having trouble gettin that bloody plate out :|
ne ideas? i sorta dont wanna pay neone to do it because im trying to learn and prove to myself i can do it lolz.... as for the doors how does it all come apart?

WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i got the bottom back seat out !!!!!!!!!! hehe
gettin there
:nuts:

vlad i having trouble gettin that bloody plate out :|
ne ideas? i sorta dont wanna pay neone to do it because im trying to learn and prove to myself i can do it lolz.... as for the doors how does it all come apart?
The best way of playing with the rear speakers is to remove the rear seats. Its not hard to do.
There's a few bolts to undo then the rear parcel shelf can be removed.

As for the front doors, there are retaining clips holding them in at the top of the door so after
unscrewing all the screws, you need to push the panel upwards to unclip it. Can't remember
exactly how it was done, did it a long time ago. Be sure to disconnect the door light as well.

Hope this helps. Its better if you have someone help you with it. The seats are heavy.

Goodluck.

WOOOOOOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOOO i got the bottom back seat out !!!!!!!!!! hehe
gettin there
:nuts:
Hehe, I guess you answered your own question, you need to remove the rear seat.

got the whole *** seat out now :bowrofl:

got the parcel shelf out .... got 2 of the 4 screws each side out now all i need is a right hangled screw driver lolz


had to go buy the sockets to get the seat out haha

had to go buy the sockets to get the seat out haha

hahah... the amount of time's i've had to do that.. if i actually searched my house and car these prolly about 3 boxes of tools lying around and prolly at least 2 or 3 of everything..

arggggg i neeeed help lolz
got everything out started installin the speakers, jus need an extra pair of hands any takers??

4.50pm and im still tryin to install my 6 x 9's :rant: :nuts: :rant: :nuts: :rant:

woooooooooooooooooohoooooooooooooo guess what guys after 3 days of trying i FINALLY dine it ...... i installed my 6 x 9's in the rear parcel shelf thats gotta be the longest install in history LMFAO.......



wooooot wqooooooooooooooooooo im so damn happy


:badgrin: lol :P :badgrin:

Congrats! Now you just have the rest of the speakers to go :P :P

As for longest install.. I only get time to do bits and pieces of my install every other week so my install has been running for nearly two months now :bowrofl: :redface:

fanx dude im pretty proud of myself.....

does ne one know how to pull the door trims off the ks verada's? i've taken every screw out bout still it's stuck like glue

fanx dude im pretty proud of myself.....

does ne one know how to pull the door trims off the ks verada's? i've taken every screw out bout still it's stuck like glue
Congratulations. :D

As I mentioned before, you need to push the whole trim upwards and outwards to remove it
once all the screws are out. There are clips holding it in along the top edge of the doord trim.

V.

got the door trims off.... disconnected the speakers and removed them plus it's mounting plate thing...... but now i cant get the friggen kickers in :( ahwell am biting my pride and goin to a mates place satday so he can go through it with me.... trade off.... his comp was ***'d n i fixed it he'll help me with my speakers :) hopefully we can pop the 4" in aswell

got the door trims off.... disconnected the speakers and removed them plus it's mounting plate thing...... but now i cant get the friggen kickers in :( ahwell am biting my pride and goin to a mates place satday so he can go through it with me.... trade off.... his comp was ***'d n i fixed it he'll help me with my speakers :) hopefully we can pop the 4" in aswell
Well, yep, the doors can only take 5.5" max, you'd have to install spacers and also a new pod
to fit a 6". Some of the guys here have done that and I think theres a tech article on it as well.

say what lolz

I GIVE UP :rant: :rant: :rant:

been tryin to get the 6 X 9's in and i give up for today tis frusterating me... looks like i need to hack into the parcel shelf not a good idea for me to do it..... tis just about time for bed so i mite give it another go tomorrow morning when i get home from work

*huffs* frusterated

I made some spacers for my Kicker 6x9's :) so that they are raised a bit more and dont rub on the crossbar for the boot.

bain i got em in but took me 3 days to figure it out lol

am gonna get my mate to have a loook and check i've done it properly

bain i got em in but took me 3 days to figure it out lol

am gonna get my mate to have a loook and check i've done it properly

Good to hear! Did you put the stock Mitsu covers back on or the Kicker covers?

say what lolz
The pod is the bit of plastic with the grill on it and the map pocket. All that have to go if you
want to fit speakers bigger then 5.5". You'll need to make custom ones or buy ones that comes
with a map pocket from audio stores.

For the spacer, you can use a piece of 1" thick MDF wood and cut a hole of 6" that covers the
existing speaker mounting hole and screw that on and then scew the speakers onto the MDF.

Killbilly has 6.5" speakers in his doors. Killbilly, your wisdom is required.lol

There's space for 6.5" speakers in the TR/TS doors. I'll post a pic when I scan it tomorrow.

But the spot is in the lower front of the door, whereabouts you would expect it to be.

There's space for 6.5" speakers in the TR/TS doors. I'll post a pic when I scan it tomorrow.

But the spot is in the lower front of the door, whereabouts you would expect it to be.

Same with the TJ.. my 6.5 splits fit nicely.. Although, i couldnt use the Pod that came with the car, i had to make an MDF one as the magnet would have hit the window.

That's interesting. I dont have a pod or anything and the magnet doesnt hit the window in mine, they sit quite nicely. But I think I will make a pod in the future for asthetics and mount the crossover in it as well.

well im off to my mates in a coupla hours.... will let ya's know the end result.... i cant wait to have all my speakers in... and only got a few hundered left on my deck, sub and amp woohooo man all these extra shifts is payin off tho i dont get overtime lol

well after a little while i finally did it... i installed my 4, 6 and 6x 9 kickers wooohooo

all i gotta do is put the door trims back on .... sounds wikked cant wait for the sub amp and deck

For the spacer, you can use a piece of 1" thick MDF wood and cut a hole of 6" that covers the
existing speaker mounting hole and screw that on and then scew the speakers onto the MDF.


1" thick.....damn, thats very thick :bowrofl: :bowrofl: