Hi All,

Im Currently thinking of selling the ol 2nd gen coz im looking at a VR4 Galant.

Wanting to know if anyone has any advice/experience about these cars.

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=8523992&postcode=4035&__Qpb=true&__Nf=p_GeoLocation_String|GCLT%20-27.35291,152.9816%2026.3&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294964597% 204294966725%20410&distance=25&silo=1011&PriceTo=410&seot=1&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&trecs=5&Cr=0&__sid=12B155627522

Thats the badboy there, im pretty keen on it but dont need to get rid of the magna. shes been good and faithful and runs beautifully.
resell is the only issue :\

any help would be greatly appreciatted :)

Thanks in advance!

Tim

Looks good, but a 10 year old car with 90,000 km on it and being an imported twin turbo, you got to ask yourself - is it worth the money, is it in good condition, how reliable will it be, how much to insure it and will parts be available? After a sedate low revving Magna you will have adjustment problems. lol

For the money there are newer and lower Km 380s about.

I know what my choice would be, but them I'm conservative! (the 380 would be my choice.)

yeah ive been trying to take everything into account...

ive been looking at xr6's and xr6t, TJ, VRX, Liberty's etc etc and the VR4's are taking my fancy. my mates brother has one and it is a great drive.
id prefer to go with something a bit less common than what we see on the road while we drive to and from work lol

insurance and rego for me will be about $1200 all up... not too bad for an import and 21yo :S

ive bought a legnum about 5 months ago and i cannot fault it at all... that galant looks okay but it is only a type V and doesnt have AYC like the add says... also is missing the factory air intake which is reguarded as a big no no on the VR4s as the stock intake is by far the best...

Check out ozvr4.com their is tons of information thier and you will be able to learn alot!!

id recommend them!

I believe BCX7 has one now. They're a great package I think, and I was even considering getting a legnum at one point.

get one, fantastic cars for the coin. heaps of midrange torque but if you get one get a tune done ASAP, Run very rich under WOT like all factory turbo cars

Looks good, but a 10 year old car with 90,000 km on it and being an imported twin turbo, you got to ask yourself - is it worth the money, is it in good condition, how reliable will it be, how much to insure it and will parts be available? After a sedate low revving Magna you will have adjustment problems. lol

For the money there are newer and lower Km 380s about.

I know what my choice would be, but them I'm conservative! (the 380 would be my choice.)

Drive a VR4 first before you decide. I know if I had $10K the 380 wouldnt even get a glance. AWD, 5speed manual, AYC in later models, drop dead SEXY looks, and a sweet 2.5L TT engine. How does a 380 compare with that? (besides its newer, omg)

ive bought a legnum about 5 months ago and i cannot fault it at all... that galant looks okay but it is only a type V and doesnt have AYC like the add says... also is missing the factory air intake which is reguarded as a big no no on the VR4s as the stock intake is by far the best...

Check out ozvr4.com their is tons of information thier and you will be able to learn alot!!

id recommend them!

Cheers mate, will have a look tonight, work has blocked every carsite bar amc :S lol

also, what is AYC and Type V? im guessing they are a type off diff but whats the go?

Ayc is active yaw control. Pretty much Its an active diff that transfer torque and power to the wheels that have the most grip..

Type v are the lower spec and type s is the fat cat optioned up one.. Type s has black out cluster, fender flares, and the ayc..

type s FL manual galants are extremely rare though so you will have to trade off whatever is less import to you if that's what you want..

AYC is Active Yaw Control, helps with conering and power transfer yo!

Ayc is active yaw control. Pretty much Its an active diff that transfer torque and power to the wheels that have the most grip..

Type v are the lower spec and type s is the fat cat optioned up one.. Type s has black out cluster, fender flares, and the ayc..

type s FL manual galants are extremely rare though so you will have to trade off whatever is less import to you if that's what you want..

My mate has the type V. the blackout cluster is sensational. Actually feels like a sports car not like a WRX where it looks base model.

Manual > sunroof if you need to decide

Ohh I think the facelifted models got blackout cluster throughout the whole range.

But yeah blackout cluster is awesome!

hmmmm interesting....

forgive my ignorance but how does one tell if its a Type V or Type S?

Im told that if you get an Aftermarket exhaust and remove the heatshield you'll be chasing a new alternator fairly soon.
Wendarb have you come across this or anything similar at all?

basically im chasing series 2, those front bars look HAWT!

hmmmm interesting....

forgive my ignorance but how does one tell if its a Type V or Type S?

Im told that if you get an Aftermarket exhaust and remove the heatshield you'll be chasing a new alternator fairly soon.
Wendarb have you come across this or anything similar at all?

basically im chasing series 2, those front bars look HAWT!

Believable, Alternator is down the back of the car. Can be solved by using some heat wrapping though.
Small trade offs really

I haven't got full aftermarket yet although I haven't heard anything bout it on ozvr4 either so unsure..

The easiest way you can tell if it's a type v or type s is that the type s have the flares.. If they don't have flares then it's a type v..

ah right ;) thanx mate

type V she is by the looks...
either way they look to be an amazing car! need to have a look soon.

Anything in particular to look out for/give special attention?

Type V doesn't have AYC but pretty sure it has LSD...
This one is a better buy in my opinion:
http://www.ironchefimports.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=395&Itemid=1

Auction grade 4.5 so in mint condition.

Edit: I have Kristen from Iron Chef currently searching for a Legnum for me, but I want Type S with AYC! Servicing is really no more expensive than a normal car. Slightly more expensive oils but you get that with any performance car. Normal servicing parts are readily available... spark plugs, brake pads etc. The clutch is the same as the Magna, and the auto box is 98% the same as the Verada. Anything else can be ordered easily from NZ so just need to order it in advance of the service. Check out OZVR4 as there is heaps of support on there and guys you can order parts for as well.

Really really nice cars :)

as long as its a Galant and NOT WHITE... ughhhhh
ive done white for the past 5 years, time for a new shade methinks haha

I think they look best in white or silver!!

as long as its a Galant and NOT WHITE... ughhhhh
ive done white for the past 5 years, time for a new shade methinks haha

They come in pearl white (galaxy) and it's just sublime.

Type V doesn't have AYC but pretty sure it has LSD...
This one is a better buy in my opinion:
http://www.ironchefimports.com/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=395&Itemid=1

Auction grade 4.5 so in mint condition.

Edit: I have Kristen from Iron Chef currently searching for a Legnum for me, but I want Type S with AYC! Servicing is really no more expensive than a normal car. Slightly more expensive oils but you get that with any performance car. Normal servicing parts are readily available... spark plugs, brake pads etc. The clutch is the same as the Magna, and the auto box is 98% the same as the Verada. Anything else can be ordered easily from NZ so just need to order it in advance of the service. Check out OZVR4 as there is heaps of support on there and guys you can order parts for as well.

Really really nice cars :)

Mmmmmm, now that is tidy! Makes me want to get rid of the Verada and pick one up at that price

You have to be very careful with cars this old coming in from Japan as rust can be a huge problem. They use a lot of salt on the roads in Japan, especially northern Japan when it snows. You have to be really careful of things like fuel lines, diff casings, door sills etc rusting badly.

You have to be very careful with cars this old coming in from Japan as rust can be a huge problem. They use a lot of salt on the roads in Japan, especially northern Japan when it snows. You have to be really careful of things like fuel lines, diff casings, door sills etc rusting badly.

If you choose a good importer, rust isn't a big issue and it is declared. The reliable importers I know refuse to buy a car if the rust is deemed unacceptable, and two I know are very very cautious when buying from northern Japan.

If you choose a good importer, rust isn't a big issue and it is declared. The reliable importers I know refuse to buy a car if the rust is deemed unacceptable, and two I know are very very cautious when buying from northern Japan.

Yeah, that's good then. Some surface rust is ok, I mean, my car has quite a lot of surface rust underneath the car, but I hit it with fish oil spray when I bought it. I have had slight issues with rust in the door sills, but I had it fixed and it hasn't been a problem since.

i looked at them very seriously before the rada, if it wasnt for j-spec being dodgy bastards, i'd have 1 in the driveway now (never fear, its definitely on the cars in 12-24months time)... great cars for the money, and definitely not many around. Theres brembo upgrades available for them, and coilovers etc etc, easy bolt on mods essentially.

at the price that guy is asking, i'd personally look at importing, but only thru iron chef.

definitely go with it tho, i doubt u'll regret it, u'll still feel like ur driving a 3rd gen verada (interior is like 90% the same), but with a few more balls ;) plus its not like a skyline or something which are common as dust on the roads, so u'll still get to feel special and unique.

do iiiiiiitttt

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2000-Mitsubishi-Galant-LUXURY-PACK-FUL-VR-4-Charcoal-/390188713890?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item5ad90f47a2

Why not the above one? Looks like Type S but its an auto though.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/2000-Mitsubishi-Galant-LUXURY-PACK-FUL-VR-4-Charcoal-/390188713890?pt=AU_Cars&hash=item5ad90f47a2

Why not the above one? Looks like Type S but its an auto though.

autos arent worth it, similar to putting high power thru the magna boxes, very likely to break stuff. and for the cost of converting to manual later on, may as well start with the real thing :)

autos arent worth it, similar to putting high power thru the magna boxes, very likely to break stuff. and for the cost of converting to manual later on, may as well start with the real thing :)The problem with these 5 speed autos isn't the power involved, it's the ****ing useless OE wave spring which ages, disintegrates, gets distributed throughout the gearbox and destroys it. Solution: get a revised wave spring fitted which won't do that. Cost: at least several hundred $

Alot more worth it (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?Cr=1&R=9218470&keywords=&trecs=45&__sid=12B179D8AF40&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&__Qpb=true&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&seot=1&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294964597% 204294966725&silo=1011)

manual + sunroof + cheap (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?Cr=7&R=9044657&keywords=&trecs=45&__sid=12B179D8AF40&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&__Qpb=true&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&seot=1&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294964597% 204294966725&silo=1011)

black + manual + low ks (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/private/details.aspx?R=8928561&__Qpb=true&Cr=9&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294964597% 204294966725&silo=1011&__No=15&seot=1&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&trecs=45&__sid=12B179D8AF40)

manual + lowish k's + coilovers (http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/dealer/details.aspx?R=8952843&__Qpb=true&Cr=2&__Ns=pCar_RankSort_Int32|1||pCar_PriceSort_Decimal |1||pCar_Make_String|0||pCar_Model_String|0&keywords=&__N=1216%201246%201247%201252%201282%204294964597% 204294966725&silo=1011&__No=30&seot=1&tsrc=allcarhome&__Nne=15&trecs=45&__sid=12B179D8AF40)

autos arent worth it, similar to putting high power thru the magna boxes, very likely to break stuff. and for the cost of converting to manual later on, may as well start with the real thing :)


The problem with these 5 speed autos isn't the power involved, it's the ****ing useless OE wave spring which ages, disintegrates, gets distributed throughout the gearbox and destroys it. Solution: get a revised wave spring fitted which won't do that. Cost: at least several hundred $

Then it makes sense to get a manual in the beginning! More control, more power and no shitty auto tranny issues!

The thing that scares me off the manuals is how short geared they are. 110km/h = 3000rpm and the tiny TD03 turbos are well beyond the point they start making boost.

Oh, and for that first Galant linked to, the colour isn't midnight purple, it's Trigger Mauve

Agree that the pearl white is the only colour to get one in.. The colour is amazing I always said I didn't want white then I saw one and yeah that made up my mind.

Mine is a auto and really it's not that bad.. The 5 speed tiptronic is very responsive and when I was lookig I couldn't justify the extra 5k for a manual.. Also it's almost impossible to find type s manual series 2 galant.. So you will need to decide what is more important and forget about the other options.

Unless you want the Legnum, nowhere near as hard to get a manual series 2 Type S Legnum.

I believe BCX7 has one now. They're a great package I think, and I was even considering getting a legnum at one point.

Indeed i have :D


type s FL manual galants are extremely rare though so you will have to trade off whatever is less import to you if that's what you want..

I didnt think a FL Type-S Manual Galant existed, you can get a FL Manual Type-s Legnum though...



Type V doesn't have AYC but pretty sure it has LSD...

They dont come with LSDs, just two open diffs... which you can have fun with



The thing that scares me off the manuals is how short geared they are. 110km/h = 3000rpm and the tiny TD03 turbos are well beyond the point they start making boost.

Mine isnt geared like that, motor sits at a reasonable speed at 110km/h, def not 3k though...



to OP.

Basically the things you need to know for a Facelift:

there are two versions, the 1998-2000 and 2000-2003. Both have the front bar your after, they had a slight difference in seat fabrics, etc. You have two options for the airconditioning system, either the climate control system that our aus spec magna got, or the MMCS system. the problem with the MMCS system is it needs to be fiddled with to get english menus, and there is no maps for the built in navigation for Aus.

You cant get a Type-S Galant in Manual, but having said that, my mate has a COTY leggy with AYC and i find it more fun to drive without AYC. AYC seems to numb you from whats actually going on. I'm glad i got a type-v manual. Most will have the blackout dash in a Facelift.

when looking for mine, i was particularly fussy with what i wanted, to the point that i almost didnt by one cos i didn't find what i was looking for. I ended up coming across a FL galant type-v in galaxy white, came with blackout dash, sunroof and velour interior with only 69k on the clock. Interior and exterior are immaculate.

Have since replaced the clutch in it, and wow wee, does it boot on a hard launch. As soon as you get your hand on your car, i suggest replacing all your fluids.

If you got any more questions, happy to answer.


For inspiration, heres a photo of mine...

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9305786/Untitled.jpg

I wouldn't worry too much about the autos. To be honest the torque in these cars is better suited to the auto box than the manual. The only real weak link has been mentioned, and that is the wave spring. That will cost about $1000 to fix and then the auto is very very solid and reliable even with decent power (provided its serviced properly).

I am looking for a manual purely because I like the driving experience.

Great looking cars, yet Melbourne is too far haha.

The first one in my post is just down the road from me :D

Great looking cars, yet Melbourne is too far haha.

The first one in my post is just down the road from me :D

Mate Melbourne is a 2 hour flight down. if it's the car of your dreams (or at least, a very nice car) what's a short trip?

I've been eyeing off the $10990 one :) If I had sold my supercharger already and didnt have my eye on an MPS I'd buy it

Take mine as an example:
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80107

Sadly it's spent more time in the shop for various reasons than in my driveway or on the road.

Some things to look out for
- Noisey hydrualic lifters
- Timing belt / water pump
- Clutch
- Coil packs

Also can be expensive to work on since there aint much room in the engine bay!

Take mine as an example:
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=80107

Sadly it's spent more time in the shop for various reasons than in my driveway or on the road.

Some things to look out for
- Noisey hydrualic lifters
- Timing belt / water pump
- Clutch
- Coil packs

Also can be expensive to work on since there aint much room in the engine bay!

Coil packs - 7th gen 6A12 motors use the same coil packs and I have seen many at pick a part type wreckers. they want about $40 or so which is great to have a spare and keep you out of trouble.

What are the issues with the timing belt and water pump? is it age? lack of maintenance?
Also clutch, why the "look out for" thing there, genuinely keen to know buddy, I have seen the problem with the noisy lifters. VERY good DIY tutorial on how to clean them on OzVR4.

;1313111']Coil packs - 7th gen 6A12 motors use the same coil packs and I have seen many at pick a part type wreckers. they want about $40 or so which is great to have a spare and keep you out of trouble.

What are the issues with the timing belt and water pump? is it age? lack of maintenance?
Also clutch, why the "look out for" thing there, genuinely keen to know buddy, I have seen the problem with the noisy lifters. VERY good DIY tutorial on how to clean them on OzVR4.

Just pointing out things to note when looking to buy one...
It's simply a factor of age and something to keep in mind when you buy it that you're going to have a big service bill just around the corner for the 100,000km.
Also the stock clutches will only take so much thrashing so look for signs of slippage.

Parts in general aren't cheap, so look around and do your research as anything you can save here will help to offset the labor costs which you have less influence over unless you're heavily into DIY

@OP for that budget if you have the patience definitely consider importing one with all the options (recaro seats / momo wheel etc) that you might be after.
Fortunately I didn't have the patience as I had no car at the time, but found a local example at a reasonable price in view of its issues + mods (hail damage - since repaired).

I wouldn't worry too much about the autos. To be honest the torque in these cars is better suited to the auto box than the manual. The only real weak link has been mentioned, and that is the wave spring. That will cost about $1000 to fix and then the auto is very very solid and reliable even with decent power (provided its serviced properly).

I am looking for a manual purely because I like the driving experience.

the wave spring, elaborate please (want to learn)

the wave spring, elaborate please (want to learn)

I don't know enough about it, but head to OzVR4 and there is plenty of info. MV Auto is doing a group fix currently.

Edit: Copied from the group fix thread in OzVR4
Remove the planatery gearset carrier and tig weld the pins in place (first common fault)
install new one piece wave spring
Total quote at the moment is $1200
For an additional $200 he can remove the valve body and "install" a shift kit he developed for the W5A51 in the ralliart magna. This involves modifying the flow characteristics to give a quicker and firmer shift.

So the total for the wavespring, carrier pins and shift kit would be $1400 per car.

I think the issue with the pins is they weren't welded properly or something. MV Auto welds them securely into place.