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MadMax
10-10-2010, 01:18 PM
I have seen a mention of a tool to hold the pulley on the V6 while you undo/do up the pulley bolt. The tool uses an old v belt to hold the pulley. Anyone come across such a tool?

I know it exists, as I've seen a Mitsu nunber for it . . . .

This is a home made version of the normal Mitsu tool for most pulleys with holes in the pulley, but the TS V6 pulley doesn't have the holes, so I'm researching the version that uses the v belt.

http://autofix.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/mitsu-balancer-003.jpg

http://autofix.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/mitsu-balancer-002.jpg

Does anyone know if the 3rd gen Magna pulley has holes for the tool with pins (or bolts as in the pic)?

TJTime
10-10-2010, 01:52 PM
http://autofix.com.au/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/11/mitsu-balancer-002.jpg

Does anyone know if the 3rd gen Magna pulley has holes for the tool with pins (or bolts as in the pic)?

Yes, there are holes on the pulley, but they are a maybe 30mm long. I tried to put in a bolt + 2 spanners jammed up against the body of my TJ, and i ended up snapping one spanner, and having another spanner fly off at me as i used my breaker bar to crack the pulley bolt

MadMax
10-10-2010, 01:56 PM
http://i.ebayimg.com/21/!BfW1I(g!2k~$(KGrHqYOKiQErzJBft-ZBL!875pFrQ~~_12.JPG

This sort of tool doesn't look strong enough.

TJTime
10-10-2010, 02:06 PM
breaker bar on the side of the control arm + crank motor twice without main plug on dizzy = undone pulley bolt

to do it back up, ive found a rubber mallet and 10 or more smashes with it on the side of the breaker bar does it up to a point where its near its original tension


(PS: Thanks for TUFFTR for the breaker bar on the control arm tip, I was about to give up on my hydraulic tensioner! I owe you a beer buddy!!)

magna buff
10-10-2010, 02:09 PM
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh59/magnabuff/workshopspecialtool.jpg

thats the factory tool

your home made one is a beaut effort

MadMax
10-10-2010, 02:16 PM
breaker bar on the side of the control arm + crank motor twice without main plug on dizzy = undone pulley bolt

to do it back up, ive found a rubber mallet and 10 or more smashes with it on the side of the breaker bar does it up to a point where its near its original tension


(PS: Thanks for TUFFTR for the breaker bar on the control arm tip, I was about to give up on my hydraulic tensioner! I owe you a beer buddy!!)

People have been known to break that bolt right off using that method to loosen it, and whacking it to tighten it up is hardly going to get it at the right torque. lol

MadMax
10-10-2010, 02:18 PM
http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh59/magnabuff/workshopspecialtool.jpg

thats the factory tool

your home made one is a beaut effort

Nope, not my effort, stole pics from some website lol wouldn't work anyway as the pulley on mine has no holes for the pins/bolts. I made up a different tool, that works with some struggle, but it would work only on the 3.0 TS, so I was wondering about the v belt type. Would be pretty much universal for any pulley. Have a Lancer and (possibly) a third gen to do. lol

AQUAR
25-02-2015, 07:00 PM
@ MadMax

I was perusing the forum for any info on how to get that verada KS - cranky bolt off.
I think the 3.0 KS would have the same pulley, so I am intrigued with your different tool.
Can you describe it.

MadMax
25-02-2015, 08:11 PM
If I remember rightly, the TS V6 pulley has no holes for pins or bolts to go in, but there are openings in the pulley.

I got a steel bar, rectangular and wide on one side, cut a hole in it with an angle grinder for a socket extension to go through, then two round holes either side for two large bolts with nuts to hold them on tight.
I put a short half inch extension bar through, socket on the end, that goes onto the crank pulley bolt with the two bolts in the bar inside the openings.
(The case behind the pulley is plastic, so the bolts can't be too long)
Rest the end of the long bar on something solid. I had to trim the length down for it to work.
Then a heave on the extension bar with something solid - take up slack gently first, to see if the bolts grip on the openings. Took me a couple of tries to get it to grip solidly. I use a chrome vanadium extension in the socket plus a 90 degree handle with a length of 1 inch square tubing for leverage.

I've used the same tool on 2 third gens and 2 Lancers to do up the pulley bolts with a torque wrench. Use the "flick the starter" to get them loose.

I did try to use a 300 Nm air powered rattle gun to undo the bolt, but no go, and I wouldn't use one to do it up again.

PS Don't try to use a strap type device to hold the pulley, they are not strong enough and you may damage the rubber ring that is in the pulley.
Also, I have destroyed a number of cheaper tools doing this. No great loss really. Best to use extension bars etc marked "chrome vanadium".

AQUAR
25-02-2015, 08:38 PM
Thanks MadMax,

Whilst googling I found this picture of the mitsu tool on a pulley that looks just right.

http://i.imgur.com/8Axai0y.jpg

Your tool description seems to follow the same principle.

Going to make something like it myself so I can torque it up properly.
Just need to get it off first.

MadMax
25-02-2015, 08:50 PM
Ah, right!
Haven't seen that picture before, but it looks like a good tool. I always wondered how it was done properly in a Mitsu workshop without the holes found in later Mitsu pulleys.
Doubt if Mitsu would sell you one though. lol

I thought of making a"Y" shaped tool, but with only mild steel tubing and flat sheet available at my local bits and pieces shop, and no holes for the bolts, I didn't pursue that idea any further.
Now that I've seen that picture, the tool in the first post would do nicely.

If you make your own tool of either design, track down some high tensile steel bolts, mild steel ones kind of bend. lol

AQUAR
26-02-2015, 07:32 PM
I post a picture of my next car tool creation!

MadMax
26-02-2015, 07:36 PM
I post a picture of my next car tool creation!

Yez pleaz!

AQUAR
07-03-2015, 08:13 PM
Well here it is - my "argicultural" version of the harmonic balancer holding tool (made from a discarded bed frame!).

Its a short one that rests on the rear chassis rail (its only 340 mm long!)
Took me a day to make (for a 5 min exercise to torque up that bolt!)
It does need to be hinged so that the high tensile M12 bolts self align in those strangely shaped pulley holes.
Also needed some tweaking to make sure that the tool can angle a few degrees away from the pulley (angle iron was to big at the rear end!).

http://i.imgur.com/j8frJA7.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Sv5UALe.jpg

A once in 5 year tool - will wrap it up with tender loving care (after all its worth 5hrs @ $80 = $400) !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!