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elliotcook1
11-10-2010, 04:19 PM
what wheels have you got on your magnas/veradas AMC

[TUFFTR]
11-10-2010, 04:22 PM
how deep is your wallet? many have 19"s and 20"s you could do 22"s with some major work

Andrei1984
11-10-2010, 04:24 PM
Whats the biggest we can do without rolling the guards?

elliotcook1
11-10-2010, 04:25 PM
how easy do 19s go on? how wide? any rta issues?

Sparky
11-10-2010, 04:31 PM
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=83224 L<read that for the info :D

elliotcook1
11-10-2010, 04:32 PM
thanks

Red Valdez
11-10-2010, 04:33 PM
Whats the biggest we can do without rolling the guards?
It comes down to wheel width and offset, not just diameter. You could put 20s on, but if they were only 7" wide they'd fit fine without rolling the guards.

I have 18x8" +35 rims with 235/40R18 tyres (so nothing over the top) and I elected to roll my guards. I might have been able to get by without but I didn't want to risk it. I would suggest that this fitment is borderline - you could get away with not rolling them, but be prepared to just in case.

19s will work, although your tyre choice may play a part. Do a search as the topic's been covered before. The wheels themselves are legal, as long as your rolling diameter doesn't change substantially you can go as large a rim as you want.

markass
11-10-2010, 04:42 PM
I also put 18x8x235/40/18 and they are fine..Never had a rub or scrape on the guards..My own opinion though if you go this way is to go a bit more in money and do 245/35/18..Reason being that with the smaller width tyre on 8 inch rim the edge of the rim is exposed and believe me it only needs to sniff a gutter or driveway and it will scrape..very sad but I know what will be going on the rims when I get new tyres ..I guess this should have been explained to me on purchase but that would be to much like customer service and that is rare these days..

elliotcook1
11-10-2010, 04:46 PM
all great information thank you. ill probably end up rolling the guards as im going for some 19X7.5s

i have a wagon so theres no issue at the rear, but ill roll the front guards just incase

Oggy
11-10-2010, 05:49 PM
IMO (and I could be wrong) the diameter of the wheel doesn't determine if you need to roll the guards or not, it's the size of the tyre.
If you stick to a 235/xx on a 7.5" wide rim, then it shouldn't matter if the rims are 16" or 20".

I've just put new wheels on mine - 18" and I think they're 235/45 so a little bigger than what Markass mentions. No problems with mine - I've got half a finger widths clearance to the back shock absorber.

With tongue in cheek: I could have gone 25x7.5 with 235/05/25 but handling wouldn't have been deemed safe. Size itself would be legal though in NSW and I'm sure it wouldn't rub any other part of the car.


Offset will definitely effect if scrubbing occurs though.

Red Valdez
11-10-2010, 05:55 PM
all great information thank you. ill probably end up rolling the guards as im going for some 19X7.5s

i have a wagon so theres no issue at the rear, but ill roll the front guards just incase
19x7.5"s should fit without any dramas as long as the offset is OK (around the +38 to +46 mark). You can't roll the front guards, only the back - if you look underneath the front guards, there's no lip to roll.

Brodska
02-05-2011, 05:18 PM
i thought instead on starting a new thread id just post on here, i have found some rims i want to buy they are 19 x 8.5 and i was going to originally get the +35 offset but they are all out of stock and only +45 is available has anyone run this width rim with either offset and any issues?

cheers

wendnarb
02-05-2011, 05:45 PM
i had 19x8.5 with an offsett of 45 on my magna and was on lows and i only had a really slight problem when on full lock... nothing worth worrying about and fixing though

Brodska
02-05-2011, 06:03 PM
sweet sounds good ill go ahead with them, thanks for that

MattVR-X
02-05-2011, 06:12 PM
Legally,

20x8. 235-45/30R20 work, but good luck getting any good ones that are load rated. It's even damn near impossible getting good load rated 235-45/35R19s, as i discovered today. I can get shitty Nankangs, or run my car on the rims. I'm sticking with 18s, now.
Ralliart only though, as AFAIK they're the only ones that came standard with 17x7 apart from the later VR-X.

Also, offset is everything. **x8 will scrub if over +40 offset. (Remember, with offset, lower number = more lip/dish, further the wheel sits out) If the 19x7.5s are +42 or lower, you should be fine.

grelise
02-05-2011, 06:33 PM
Legally,

20x8. 235-45/30R20 work, but good luck getting any good ones that are load rated. It's even damn near impossible getting good load rated 235-45/35R19s, as i discovered today. I can get shitty Nankangs, or run my car on the rims. I'm sticking with 18s, now.
Ralliart only though, as AFAIK they're the only ones that came standard with 17x7 apart from the later VR-X.

Also, offset is everything. **x8 will scrub if over +40 offset. (Remember, with offset, lower number = more lip/dish, further the wheel sits out) If the 19x7.5s are +42 or lower, you should be fine.

I'm running 19x8.5 on +35, on lows and don't have scrubbing issues.
It's the fact you have wheel arch flares is what may give the scrubbing you get.

Oggy
02-05-2011, 07:05 PM
This is silly, but still on topic for the original post - how big can you go?
It depends on if you want to be legal, practical or just stupid like this U.S. version:
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b129/Ogier/Cars/DiamanteBigWheels.jpg

..GONE..
04-05-2011, 01:40 PM
I'm running 20x8.5 with 245/30/20 Rated at 98 (Correctly Load Rated Tyres are important - Be aware when looking at 20" Load Rated Tyres - They're not cheap!)

I believe a little while ago a member got pinged for having incorrectly load rated tyres..

Havent rolled my guards.. Running King Lows All Round

SuFz

Boost King
04-05-2011, 01:44 PM
19x7.5"s should fit without any dramas as long as the offset is OK (around the +38 to +46 mark). You can't roll the front guards, only the back - if you look underneath the front guards, there's no lip to roll.

Hi,

My wheels are 18's and are 8 inch rims and have a 35 offset and they hit the guards, hence why my car has not been lowered! Got 40 offset, to be safe. Depends too, if you have a VR-X the clearance on teh gaurds is less.

Red Valdez
04-05-2011, 01:59 PM
My wheels are 18's and are 8 inch rims and have a 35 offset and they hit the guards, hence why my car has not been lowered! Got 40 offset, to be safe.
That's interesting. I'm lowered too, and when I first had my rims put on, the tyres actually stuck out of the guards a tiny fraction (I'm presuming you're talking about the front guards). With a camber kit they're basically in line with the guard. They've never, ever touched though, and I've bottomed out a fair few times too (thank you, Queensland roads).

Judging by the lack of similar complaints, my guess is the suspension must reach its limits of travel before the tyre can hit the front guard... not sure why you'd be different.

BenTAxeL
04-05-2011, 02:41 PM
That's interesting. I'm lowered too, and when I first had my rims put on, the tyres actually stuck out of the guards a tiny fraction (I'm presuming you're talking about the front guards). With a camber kit they're basically in line with the guard. They've never, ever touched though, and I've bottomed out a fair few times too (thank you, Queensland roads).

Judging by the lack of similar complaints, my guess is the suspension must reach its limits of travel before the tyre can hit the front guard... not sure why you'd be different.

Would the VRX flare on Boost King ride make a difference? even a few mm might be enough?

murph03
04-05-2011, 06:40 PM
I run 19x8 42p offset on super lows, and have had to trim the flares to make it work, but it doesnt rub otherwise

Red Valdez
04-05-2011, 07:07 PM
Would the VRX flare on Boost King ride make a difference? even a few mm might be enough?
Wider rims are basically guaranteed to rub on the flares, but you can trim the flares or take them off. I was talking about rubbing/scraping on the actual bodywork.

MattVR-X
05-05-2011, 06:19 AM
Depends, i had 18x8 with +45 offset that didn't scrape the flares, because they scraped on the inside instead.

I'll get back to you guys tonight once the new 18x8 @ +35 show up and i put them on.

Boost King
05-05-2011, 07:45 AM
Wider rims are basically guaranteed to rub on the flares, but you can trim the flares or take them off. I was talking about rubbing/scraping on the actual bodywork.

My comments in terms of rubbing are in reference to scraping and hitting the flares. The stock guards would be fine. My other magna is dumped and never hits. SO yeah, its those darn flares. Most members here either remove them or trim them down, but I didn't want to do that to my flares, still emotionally attached. :)

MattVR-X
05-05-2011, 04:22 PM
So i dropped the 18x8 on it today, +35 offset Enix wheels with 245/40.

Factory Ralliart otherwise, and i have no scraping at all. Could likely go another .5" lower and it would still be fine.

Frankie
06-05-2011, 04:14 PM
Trial ran a set of 20 x 7.5 with 45 offset on 225/35/20.
The stance was exactly like the OEM 17 x 7 (GTV) 46 offset shod with 225/50/17. No rubbing.

As stated above offset is the key. With the above rims if the 2 rears had been 35 offset, would have looked sweet as the guards would have been more filled giving it a more aggressive stance.