View Full Version : Daytime Running Lights
380matey
23-10-2010, 12:25 PM
What has everyone done in regard to daytime running lights? I have noticed more brighter ones on fleabay lately like http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/10W-12V-EURO-LED-Daytime-Running-Light-Kit-Lamp-/130440468434?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item1e5edb97d2
Anyone fitted something like this?
Mecha-wombat
23-10-2010, 12:42 PM
I don't anyone has I think all cars built from 2012 have to have them fitted OEM
presti
23-10-2010, 01:06 PM
personally i think its stupid for cars to have them, they dont need them they are big enough to be seen.
my bike's headlights are hardwired so they act as DRL and if everyone has them then it will be harder to see a bike
380matey
23-10-2010, 05:56 PM
All cars in Europe must have them by 2011.
380matey
29-10-2010, 02:52 PM
personally i think its stupid for cars to have them, they dont need them they are big enough to be seen.
my bike's headlights are hardwired so they act as DRL and if everyone has them then it will be harder to see a bike
Yep I guess that is why they are being made mandatory on all cars in Euro, because they are so stupid. The fact of the matter is that cars (and bikes) don't stand out esp charcoal or grey cars. They do make cars more visable in the day esp on country roads. QED. It would seem that there is more interest in template sill leds with 380 vrx on it though.......now there is a thought!! DRT WITH "380 VRX" on either side of the front! lmao!
caminorey
29-10-2010, 04:01 PM
I too am looking at a DRL setup for my 380, however I'm going against the trend of LEDs (well, at least Audi style strips.)
Hoping to get some nice dual colour (amber/white) parker replacements. That's just my personal preference, and I don't really care about visibility, I just think it looks cool. lol
If I want to be seen I'll put my low beam headlights on. :)
I recently made these
I figured i can use those blank plastic spaces for something.
http://imgur.com/1rZ44.jpg
GRDPuck
02-11-2010, 11:18 AM
I pulled up to a T intersection close to home about 2-3 months ago.
I looked both ways and then nearly proceeded onto the main road.
Luckily I caught something out of the corner of my eye and hesitated.
I had missed a Big 4WD! coming from my right! It was a dark grey 4WD and had been hidden in the mottled shadows of some trees as it came towards me.
It's good to get a scare like that sometimes as it reminds you how easy it is to make a mistake and how easy it is to miss a car, even as large as they are.
I think DRL's are a great idea and they can look cool too.
I can see Presti's point though. While riding a bike I always had my headlights on too and I do wonder if having all cars do similar will 'hide' a bike - or if the principle of a bike with a headlight will still work anyway.
I wonder if they will make it mandatory (or at least legal) to fit to older cars.
TreeAdeyMan
02-11-2010, 11:33 AM
I recently made these
I figured i can use those blank plastic spaces for something.
http://imgur.com/1rZ44.jpg
Nice to see another 380 owner with a 2005 base model, I reckon we must be a small and exclusive bunch on these forums. But not quite as rare as the TMR 380 owners group!
I'd be keen on putting DRLs in this spot on my car too, except that I have swapped the stock 'square' ones for the round hole ones that are used to mount driving lights in, and on the passenger side I have connected a tube to the cut end of the airbox lower resonator. A sort of bodgied up cheap CAI.
yeh, i got this model way back when it was around 18 grand second hand. (around 2 years ago)
oh well. still a nice car to drive, once i sort out the crappy brake discs.
caminorey
02-11-2010, 02:38 PM
I wonder if they will make it mandatory (or at least legal) to fit to older cars.
Well, it is legal. There are some regulations of course; must be amber or white, forward facing, switch off when parkers/headlights are activated and no more than 21w bulbs are the ones I remember.
Unfortunately most people cbf doing some of those, and just wire them up with the parkers. Looks like Kon has the right idea though. :happy:
Mecha-wombat
02-11-2010, 03:11 PM
Kon that looks SWEET!!!!!!
cheers man.. ill throw up some pics of the build.. just showing how i did it.. and secured them in there.
Mikey380sx
02-11-2010, 04:25 PM
Well, it is legal. There are some regulations of course; must be amber or white, forward facing, switch off when parkers/headlights are activated and no more than 21w bulbs are the ones I remember.
Unfortunately most people cbf doing some of those, and just wire them up with the parkers. Looks like Kon has the right idea though. :happy:
Mine is wired to a different switch all together.
Are you saying if they are on without the headlights its ok...but if the headlights are on they can't be?
caminorey
02-11-2010, 04:30 PM
If you're going to call them DRLs then yes, that's how it's supposed to be (parkers actually is when they should turn off.)
Being on a different switch might let you call them something else if you ever get asked about it by the 5-0. Vanity lights might be an option. lol
GRDPuck
02-11-2010, 04:36 PM
So on the new cars coming out now with DRLs, how are they wired/switched?
Are they automatically on as soon as you switch the car on and automatically switch off as soon as the Parkers/Headlights are switched on?
Sparky
02-11-2010, 04:44 PM
I have the solve this problem if you like I can post up the circuit again :happy: They would have to be wired up close to my solution :)
caminorey
02-11-2010, 04:47 PM
So on the new cars coming out now with DRLs, how are they wired/switched?
Are they automatically on as soon as you switch the car on and automatically switch off as soon as the Parkers/Headlights are switched on?
That's correct. The only car I've seen/noticed so far with normal, non Audi-copy DRLs is the VW Golf. They use low-powered high beams that are on all the time, then when you hit the parkers or headlights everything works as it would if the DRLs weren't installed.
380matey
15-11-2010, 12:55 PM
Nice work Kon. I have been looking at putting some in the same place, but I have a VRX so it is a bit more difficult due to less space. What are yours and where did you get them from? How did you wire them up?
380matey
15-11-2010, 01:04 PM
I have the solve this problem if you like I can post up the circuit again :happy: They would have to be wired up close to my solution :)
Hey Sparky please post your circuit diagram for this. I am thinking of using the spark blank switch space on the right of the steering wheel for the DRL's and keep it looking as factory as possible. I may have to source a factory switch from somewhere for this.
Sparky
15-11-2010, 03:39 PM
Alright revamp my circuit diagram. They say you should use a fuse but this is limited the led driver lights down to 2A or around 24W. 12v ACC is anything that has voltage when the car engine is on. But part from that it should be an easy circuit to wire up :)
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/Sparkington/AA.jpg
380matey
16-11-2010, 04:53 AM
Thanks for that Sparky. Could you explain what the numbers relate to please. Where exactly are you picking up power from. Is is from a redundant wire in the loom that is connected through the ignition switch ( hence the numbers)? Also what is a NC Contact? Also by the looks of it you could pick up the earth from anywhere and not necessarily from the parkers .Thanks mate
[TUFFTR]
16-11-2010, 05:06 AM
Thanks for that Sparky. Could you explain what the numbers relate to please. Where exactly are you picking up power from. Is is from a redundant wire in the loom that is connected through the ignition switch ( hence the numbers)? Also what is a NC Contact? Also by the looks of it you could pick up the earth from anywhere and not necessarily from the parkers .Thanks mate
NC - Normally closed contact.
Numbers sparky has written are just your standard 4 pin relay pinouts meaning
Pin 30 - Your main power going to your output device, in this case, 12v
Pin 85 - Small current power (to your switch) in this case, tapped off your parkers.
Pin 86 - ground for your switch (low current)
Pin 87 - your output device, in this case, your LED parkers.
Correct earth can be anywhere for this.
Although TBH, if your powering it off standard 12V you don't really need a relay. since it's low current anyway, I'd just run it direct from the 12v with an inline switch.
Sparky
16-11-2010, 07:46 AM
The relay is there for the requirement of the law. So when you turn the car on the led daylights will turn on but when your headlights or park light come on the led daylight go off. Plus when you turn the car off the daylight led turn off. I have to look up where a 12volt supply that get turn on when the engine does. I think people took it off the cigaret socket or the spare 12v socket in the third gen :) But tufftr thanks for suppling the information. When I get home I do a little bit of research and post back. I'm sorry not supply all the information, bit of laps in judgement on behalf :(
maggie3.5
16-11-2010, 01:52 PM
The relay is there for the requirement of the law. So when you turn the car on the led daylights will turn on but when your headlights or park light come on the led daylight go off. Plus when you turn the car off the daylight led turn off. I have to look up where a 12volt supply that get turn on when the engine does. I think people took it off the cigaret socket or the spare 12v socket in the third gen :) But tufftr thanks for suppling the information. When I get home I do a little bit of research and post back. I'm sorry not supply all the information, bit of laps in judgement on behalf :(
good stuff....you really need it hooked up to a ignition on power supply,because if you run it off an acc curcuit,when you sit a listen to the radio,the lights will be on...not cool
...thats how my 380 is set up...ive yet to find an isolated ign on wire in the fuse box...
Sparky
16-11-2010, 02:58 PM
Ok maggie I will have a look at what I can see in w'shop manuals as for ign wire. Starting to have a look now, will need to download 380 schmatic :) This post will be deleted and replace when I find what I'm looking for :)
[TUFFTR]
16-11-2010, 03:01 PM
Dont know what you guys are scared of! Just tap it right off the ignition barrel, these draw such little current its not funny!
This is why I said Wire it from your ciggie lighter with a simple on/off switch. Easiest way to do it! (Personally like I said earlier wouldnt use a relay as its not a high drawing device)
Mikey380sx
16-11-2010, 03:10 PM
;1335721']Dont know what you guys are scared of! Just tap it right off the ignition barrel, these draw such little current its not funny!
This is why I said Wire it from your ciggie lighter with a simple on/off switch. Easiest way to do it! (Personally like I said earlier wouldnt use a relay as its not a high drawing device)
Mine is only wired to switch, fair lot of trouble wiring it to turn off with the headlights etc etc I couldn't see the point...I got pulled up today for a random breath test and the cop didn't say anything about them, nor any other time I've been rbt'd so meh I ain't changing them :)
Sparky
16-11-2010, 03:14 PM
;1335721']Dont know what you guys are scared of! Just tap it right off the ignition barrel, these draw such little current its not funny!
This is why I said Wire it from your ciggie lighter with a simple on/off switch. Easiest way to do it! (Personally like I said earlier wouldnt use a relay as its not a high drawing device)
It not because it a high current draw it the way law says that you have to wire it up :) You could use a miniature relay and solder it all up. The only reason why I use a relay is because of what the circuit has to perform lol This has been discussed in another thread insert link here :) Cant find the original thread
maggie3.5
16-11-2010, 03:32 PM
;1335721']Dont know what you guys are scared of! Just tap it right off the ignition barrel, these draw such little current its not funny!
This is why I said Wire it from your ciggie lighter with a simple on/off switch. Easiest way to do it! (Personally like I said earlier wouldnt use a relay as its not a high drawing device)
sure...might be easy and all that,but ,if you are going to do it ,do it right,why piss fart around with a switch..umm//will i put my DRL on today or not...oohh..i forgot to put them on/off
At least hard wired through the relay,they are done and forgotten and legally done by turning on with the car and off when you activate the parkers...
and,yes ,we know its drawing bugger all power,but the relay is your switch any way ...to switch it on and off as required....
Mikey380sx
16-11-2010, 04:05 PM
sure...might be easy and all that,but ,if you are going to do it ,do it right,why piss fart around with a switch..umm//will i put my DRL on today or not...oohh..i forgot to put them on/off
At least hard wired through the relay,they are done and forgotten and legally done by turning on with the car and off when you activate the parkers...
and,yes ,we know its drawing bugger all power,but the relay is your switch any way ...to switch it on and off as required....
True, but having a switch lets me decide when I want to look like a wanker to fortunate Audi drivers lol
Sparky
16-11-2010, 05:13 PM
Alright I might found a good circuit to tap off but will need to rumage in my TR electrical box to see if that lives there or somewhere else lol So give me some time and I will do a write up :) Sunday where I will get a good amount of time to look at this problem and ideas lol Yes first gen to 380 have this same circuit, so I can use mine as example :)
380matey
21-11-2010, 05:44 PM
Just run it off the parkers as described but you can also take it back to a switch in the cabin so that you can control if they are on or off.
Sparky
04-12-2010, 03:11 PM
Made up a video of the operation of the circuit I posted up a while ago. Relay I use is a Jaycar relay (http://www.jaycar.com.au/productView.asp?ID=SY4070&keywords=relay&form=KEYWORD).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m224m1yFybw
http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r71/Sparkington/AA.jpg
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