What is your average fuel Consumption on your AWD magna/Verada.

I looking at replacing my FWD manual TJ with a Zen purple AWD TW VRX and would like to know what people get on average City/Hwy or tank wise

All help would be great thanks


Brett:happy:

AWD is thirsty- there is a fair bit of info on this site through the search option already covering this- my own awd (2004 TL es) open highway- very light foot, ideal conditions- down to about 9l/100 at best- daily commute- really crap stop start (lots of stop) traffic- about 13l/ 100k.

That is NOT really thirsty IMO.

My wife's 1.5L Toyota Auto gets about 8L / 100km and to me that's OK. My old 1.6L manual small sedan managed 6L/100km on trips to/from Melbourne or 8L around town but no matter how much hooning (including constant runs at Eastern Creek drags) was never worse than 10L / 100km.

So a Magna with 50% or more weight and over double the engine capacity, getting 10L/100km IMO is really good.

However, my AWD can chew through fuel at up to 20L / 100km if I try hard enough. Now that is thirsty for a Magna :)

The trip computer is telling me that my average is 17L/100km, but I've kept a record for the last 10,000kms and most trips are around 15L/100km - I do a lot of short trips and I'm pretty sure my O2 sensor needs replacing.
For the cost of fuel I really should swap it ASAP - if it fixes it the fuel saving will pay for it in about 2 months!

Do a search, if this topic isn't covered in the AWD section, then have a look at the community groups as I'm sure there's a thread of many AWD fuel statistics. From memory, 11L/100km should be possible around town without difficulty, as long as the car is running well.

Cheers and have fun - the AWD is worth it IMO.

My average driving these days returns 12-13L/100km. Which is moderate traffic every morning, peak hour every arvo and then the odd freeway or night drive. All highway sees about 8.5L/100km, all city I've manage 16L/100km. The trip computer saw 20L/100km once but that tank averaged out to 15L/100km so I don't know how it worked it out. My foot isn't overly light either, I'll give it a bit on a reasonably regular basis.

So im safe to say theres not really that much difference with the FWD. My car with POD runs 13.0 l per/100kms around everyday driving, and down to a 9 on the HWY ( Fairly sure my 02 sensor is roooted too.) theres about 1 l per/100km without the pod so im safe to say the AWD is that much as ive been told there a pig on fuel.

Whether I drive it hard or soft.......... I get around 16-20L/100. That's traffic, cold morning starts, short trips etc.

Pure freeway will see it get down to 10/100k JUST

It's a ****ing pig!

Don't know why awd magnas consumption is so high.. Mines at 14.5 average (and I hardly ever drive it softly) for the time I've had it and sure the engine is down a litre although you think the turbos would push it back up more?? Surely my wagon would weigh more too!!

I find it heaps odd at least... Haha

Don't know why awd magnas consumption is so high.. Mines at 14.5 average (and I hardly ever drive it softly) for the time I've had it and sure the engine is down a litre although you think the turbos would push it back up more?? Surely my wagon would weigh more too!!

I find it heaps odd at least... Haha

Yep my mates s2 manual leggy gets 13-14L/100k's even if he gives it a little squirt now and then, even on the freeway at 100k's the turbos are spooling all the time and still gets fantastic economy for a TT car! another reason why I'd not own an AWD magna lol

Besides that, have you guys ever changed your fuel filters? changing that will give you an indication as to what's being mixed around in your tank.....get a nice clean fuel system going and you should def see a few more kms!

Whether I drive it hard or soft.......... I get around 16-20L/100. That's traffic, cold morning starts, short trips etc.

Pure freeway will see it get down to 10/100k JUST

It's a ****ing pig!
Sounds a bitch rich, changed your o2 lately? Filters etc.

Sounds a bitch rich, changed your o2 lately? Filters etc.

Even so, if it's all traffic, stop start, cold morning starts and short trips, it will always run rich when cold, and if stop and start, well it's gonna chew juice doing that anyway, bit of a downside with peak hour traffic

;1331191']Even so, if it's all traffic, stop start, cold morning starts and short trips, it will always run rich when cold, and if stop and start, well it's gonna chew juice doing that anyway, bit of a downside with peak hour traffic
Unless he was quite literally driving out of his driveway, straight into bumper to bumper traffic, and getting no real free flowing driving at all during any trip, and he was flooring it every gap he had, I cannot see how the car could hit 20L/100km. I've never hit 20L/100km even from the best part of a whole tank of bumper to bumper driving.

Unless he was quite literally driving out of his driveway, straight into bumper to bumper traffic, and getting no real free flowing driving at all during any trip, and he was flooring it every gap he had, I cannot see how the car could hit 20L/100km. I've never hit 20L/100km even from the best part of a whole tank of bumper to bumper driving.

Your car will be dumping more fuel into the motor for anything up to the first 5 minutes of the drive until it is up to operating temp, so even if he was driving normally, driving the car cold (as we all do) will always use more fuel until it hits operating temp and there's no more corrections being added by the ECU.
of course I don't know where he's been driving but that kind of figure of a heavy car with massive drivetrain loss, in those driving conditions, IF it's as bad as he say's is understandable. Little things can be done but car being used for those sorts of trips will always yield heavier fuel useage.

having a bung thermostat will keep the car in a cold state even longer, but shouldnt be an issue on a TL+ onwards

With my AWD I average around 10.5 - 11.1 depending on traffic, that's a mix of roughly 40% freeway 60% city (non peak period) and including short trips around my district in the Adelaide Hills.

Straight Highway driving as an example, a round trip from Mt Barker to Murray Bridge saw an average of 9.5lt/100km on the trip computer. A recent round trip to Melbourne returned 8.3lt/100km.

When my brother had his FWD manual VRX, his fuel figures for the same routes were around 1-1.5lt/100km better off. So my AWD VRX is not that much worse considering it is A - Heavier and B - Automatic.

Comparing Automatic FWD VRX to my Auto VRX AWD see's the AWD at <0.5lt/100km worse off. Comparing that against a friends TW FWD Auto VRX.

The readings on the trip computer aren't always accurate. Recently mine was showing an average of 11.1lt/100km. I filled up and worked out fuel average, fuel used/distance traveled and the average was 10.6lt/100km.

You might be forgetting I do own one of these cars, I know first hand what the economy is like. You would have to thrash it constantly in peak hour traffic to even get close to 20L/100km when its running properly. I've done the driving Pete has loosely described, and it doesn't get that high even with a heavy foot. Of course it'd be good if Pete replied back to discuss :P

Yep, definitely something amiss with that.

City driving normal, not light and not flat chat is round 14l.
Highway can get as low as Mid 8's.

Whether I drive it hard or soft.......... I get around 16-20L/100. That's traffic, cold morning starts, short trips etc.

Pure freeway will see it get down to 10/100k JUST

It's a ****ing pig!

You've got a heavy vehicle, nearly the heaviest of all Magnas/ Veradas. Your highway usage is on a par with both of the AWD's that I've owned. You just must sit in pretty heavy traffic for most of your commutes :)

There are a number of factors that can noticeably affect fuel consumption in my experience. Some of the ones I've experienced with my AWD:
- choice of tyres
- tyre pressure
- use of cruise control (especially in presence of engine mods)
- driving style

I haven't run into the oxygen sensor issue, simply because I changed mine before a huge trip as a precaution. I would expect that poor wheel alignment would also affect fuel economy.

Mine is a TJ Executive, the lightest of the AWDs.

The best consumption I've ever achieved is about 9.2l/100km, on a trip from Canberra to Port Macquarie back when the M7 had just opened. At the time I was running Michelin tyres - which overall were nearly 1l/100km better (~12.8l/100km) than the OEM Turanzas and the subsequent Firestones (both ~13.6l/100km) for the same driving pattern (all 215/60R16 on the standard 6" wider rims). The Firestones required 40psi in the front to get down to 13.6l/100km too - consumption was close to 14l/100km with the 36psi I used when they were fitted.

I'm not long back from an 11000km round trip to Darwin, with a trip average of about 10.6l/100km, nearly all with cruise control engaged. Travelling the full length of the Stuart and Barkly Hwys at the 130kmh limit (GPS checked) averaged about 11l/100km. The final leg from Tamworth back to Canberra, with the CC set for 98kmh (as an economy experiment), averaged about 9.5l/100km. The whole trip was done with the front tyres set at 42psi, and the rears on 38psi (Firestone Firehawk Wide Oval).

I've heavily used the CC, even around town, since I got the car, but since I got back from the Darwin trip I've avoided using it, again as an economy experiment. So far I'm nearly 1l/100km better off: 12.8l/100km vs 13.7l/100km w/CC for my usual Canberra travels. I tried this because since I've had the headers and 2.5" catback system fitted and advanced the cams, I've felt the CC was using more throttle than needed in many circumstances, given the mods have produced noticeably more low speed torque.

YMMV....

All other things being equal, the AWD will use between 1 to 1.5 L/100k more than the FWD. I've checked this during a trip from Sydney to Port Macquarie - my wife was in our 2001 TJ Exec and I was driving the TJ AWD. Since we maintained sight of each other the whole way, traffic, weather, etc were identical for both.

We just have to accept that the AWD will chew fuel in typical urban short trips. Mine uses up to 17 L/100k at worst in these conditions. Freeway cruising can see it down to about 9.8 L/100k. Reasonably long urban runs, with typical Sydney traffic, sees about 14 L/100k.

I can vouch for the fact that replacing an oxygen sensor does make a significant difference. Before a recent replacement of the sensor, I was getting 18 L/100k - after the new one was fitted, consumption for same conditions dropped to about 14 to 15 L/100k.

Despite the higher consumption, I think the AWD is worth it. It has massive traction in all conditions, and no torque steer.

A lot of reference to the O2 sensor here- just out of interest- what km's are most people running to before O2 sensor change- my 04 TL es has about 95k km's how soon before looking at getting another one- or is it dependent on performance and consumption before changing out?

A lot of reference to the O2 sensor here- just out of interest- what km's are most people running to before O2 sensor change- my 04 TL es has about 95k km's how soon before looking at getting another one- or is it dependent on performance and consumption before changing out?

From what I've read, narrowband oxygen sensors of reasonably current design have a design life of 160000km. Like a lot of things, some last longer than others.

I changed mine at just over 100000km as a precaution, based on reports of them dying between 100000km and 150000km. I was about to drive to Darwin and back and figured the cost of it was sufficiently small ($135) compared to the potential cost of the extra fuel consumption if it died while away that it was worth the peace of mind; the original sensor was still good so I've kept it as an emergency spare.

I'd just monitor the fuel economy, and if it started going over 15l/100km when you would have expected 14l/100km or better (which most people seem to be able to manage with the AWDs) or you start seeing other signs of unexpected rich running, I'd change it then.

It's curious reading about the economy figures a lot of you guys are pulling. For instance I took mine for a day trip down Great Ocean Road down as far as 12 Apostles last weekend, which was a combination of freeway driving (100km/h, no cruise) to get there and back, and then obviously GOR itself. I was driving in a rather spirited manner for the vast length of the twisties, and I averaged 8.8L/100km for the tank (9.2L/100km indicated on the trip comp). I've checked the maths and I'm doing it correctly, so I don't know what gives for some of you guys.

It's curious reading about the economy figures a lot of you guys are pulling. For instance I took mine for a day trip down Great Ocean Road down as far as 12 Apostles last weekend, which was a combination of freeway driving (100km/h, no cruise) to get there and back, and then obviously GOR itself. I was driving in a rather spirited manner for the vast length of the twisties, and I averaged 8.8L/100km for the tank (9.2L/100km indicated on the trip comp). I've checked the maths and I'm doing it correctly, so I don't know what gives for some of you guys.

sure it was "sprited" driving? funny enough i was on the GOR on the same weekend and there was god damm tourists all over the roads doing 50km/h... and they didn't pull over to let anyone pass... I got good economy from that too... drove to Lorne and back, used 1/4 of a tank

sure it was "sprited" driving? funny enough i was on the GOR on the same weekend and there was god damm tourists all over the roads doing 50km/h... and they didn't pull over to let anyone pass... I got good economy from that too... drove to Lorne and back, used 1/4 of a tank
No I said spirited because I was driving like my Grandma would...lol We didn't really have much of an issue with traffic, only got caught up a couple of times prior to Lorne.

It's curious reading about the economy figures a lot of you guys are pulling. For instance I took mine for a day trip down Great Ocean Road down as far as 12 Apostles last weekend, which was a combination of freeway driving (100km/h, no cruise) to get there and back, and then obviously GOR itself. I was driving in a rather spirited manner for the vast length of the twisties, and I averaged 8.8L/100km for the tank (9.2L/100km indicated on the trip comp). I've checked the maths and I'm doing it correctly, so I don't know what gives for some of you guys.

That's a pretty good return. The best I've seen in mine has been 9.4l/100 & that's just plain highway driving, cruise, no a/c.

It's curious reading about the economy figures a lot of you guys are pulling. For instance I took mine for a day trip down Great Ocean Road down as far as 12 Apostles last weekend, which was a combination of freeway driving (100km/h, no cruise) to get there and back, and then obviously GOR itself. I was driving in a rather spirited manner for the vast length of the twisties, and I averaged 8.8L/100km for the tank (9.2L/100km indicated on the trip comp). I've checked the maths and I'm doing it correctly, so I don't know what gives for some of you guys.

Those are extraordinarily good figures for an AWD, significantly better than the majority of us so far in this thread. I'm wondering if the normal tolerances in production car tune could occasionally produce "lottery" wins like this? Or have you had your car modified in any way that could help fuel consumption?

Those are extraordinarily good figures for an AWD, significantly better than the majority of us so far in this thread. I'm wondering if the normal tolerances in production car tune could occasionally produce "lottery" wins like this? Or have you had your car modified in any way that could help fuel consumption?
The car is mechanically stock. Previous owner never did a thing to it either, simply serviced by the book. So I don't know, but I'm not complaining :P

The car is mechanically stock. Previous owner never did a thing to it either, simply serviced by the book. So I don't know, but I'm not complaining :P

I reckon you're the winner of the AWD low consumption survey. I'm envious!

he probably has a FWD with AWD stickers and badges around it :P... the figure he gets is better than some of the other FWD counterparts...

Drove the AWD VRX for the week and its doing 14.3 per 100kms thats more than my brothers 5.4 V8 coon-tin

he probably has a FWD with AWD stickers and badges around it :P... the figure he gets is better than some of the other FWD counterparts...
It's wet outside, come find out ;)

I found tyre pressures to make a fair difference, upping the pressure from 38ish PSI to 42 dropped economy by about 1.5-2L/100km. It's worth experimenting a bit with those sorts of things to find out.

It's wet outside, come find out ;)

I found tyre pressures to make a fair difference, upping the pressure from 38ish PSI to 42 dropped economy by about 1.5-2L/100km. It's worth experimenting a bit with those sorts of things to find out.

i have my tyre pressures set to 38psi at the front and 36psi on the rears atm. On my old set of tyres, i used to have tyre pressures set around the 38-42 psi range and found that over time, i was wearing out the middle of the tyres, so as much as saving fuel is a benefit, i won't be going past 38psi with this set and see how my tyres wear.

I hadn't thought of tyre pressures, but 42 psi does seem a bit extreme. I tried 38 front, 35 rear for a while, but the ride is too bumpy on what passes for roads in Sydney. I settled on 36 front, 33 rear as a good compromise. By the way, Lugo, are you using the original 215/60 R16 tyres? I did find they needed pumping up a bit to avoid "squirming" in roundabouts.

KJ AWD, Fronts i run 40psi and rear 38PSI and i get roughly 50 - 60,000 out of a set of Tyres. Helps get rid of the shoulder wear.

I hadn't thought of tyre pressures, but 42 psi does seem a bit extreme. I tried 38 front, 35 rear for a while, but the ride is too bumpy on what passes for roads in Sydney. I settled on 36 front, 33 rear as a good compromise. By the way, Lugo, are you using the original 215/60 R16 tyres? I did find they needed pumping up a bit to avoid "squirming" in roundabouts.
Nah I've got 18"s, they're Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT 235/40ZR18's. Dunlop specialists recommended I try the higher PSI for these tyres, I'm not having any issues with uneven wear.

Nah I've got 18"s, they're Dunlop SP Sport Maxx GT 235/40ZR18's. Dunlop specialists recommended I try the higher PSI for these tyres, I'm not having any issues with uneven wear.

Fair enough.

My series II KW AWD get consistent 12's city. 9's on the freeway.

Unless he was quite literally driving out of his driveway, straight into bumper to bumper traffic, and getting no real free flowing driving at all during any trip, and he was flooring it every gap he had, I cannot see how the car could hit 20L/100km. I've never hit 20L/100km even from the best part of a whole tank of bumper to bumper driving.

Petes right foot is made of cast iron, and with Victoria rd and pac hwy to get to work, 20l/100km is easily done in the awd

Unless he was quite literally driving out of his driveway, straight into bumper to bumper traffic, and getting no real free flowing driving at all during any trip, and he was flooring it every gap he had, I cannot see how the car could hit 20L/100km. I've never hit 20L/100km even from the best part of a whole tank of bumper to bumper driving.

Yeah, that sounds like my trip to work haha

I've just returned from a holiday in Tassie, driving from Sydney. Total distance almost 4000 km, overall average consumption was 10.4 L/100km. There was no attempt to drive with economy in mind, but it's just about impossible to do much under 10 L/100km even on the freeway unless you are prepared to go less than 100 kph.

I've just returned from a holiday in Tassie, driving from Sydney. Total distance almost 4000 km, overall average consumption was 10.4 L/100km. There was no attempt to drive with economy in mind, but it's just about impossible to do much under 10 L/100km even on the freeway unless you are prepared to go less than 100 kph.

Ken, now that you're tuned for 95, were you using 95 E10 or 95 PULP? There is a consumption difference between the two fuels of about 3.5-4%, which is effectively the difference between 10l/100km and 10.4l/100km (PULP to E10 respectively).

On long trips to Qld, my long term average with 91 ULP is about 9.8l/100km.

Ken, now that you're tuned for 95, were you using 95 E10 or 95 PULP? There is a consumption difference between the two fuels of about 3.5-4%, which is effectively the difference between 10l/100km and 10.4l/100km (PULP to E10 respectively).

On long trips to Qld, my long term average with 91 ULP is about 9.8l/100km.

+1, if I sit on about 100-120km/hr I get about 9.9-10.0L/100

Ken, now that you're tuned for 95, were you using 95 E10 or 95 PULP? There is a consumption difference between the two fuels of about 3.5-4%, which is effectively the difference between 10l/100km and 10.4l/100km (PULP to E10 respectively).

On long trips to Qld, my long term average with 91 ULP is about 9.8l/100km.

I was using both 95 and 98 PULP all the way. It was interesting to observe that in some small Tassie villages, PULP of any rating seemed to be regarded as exotic, and hard to get!!!

With respect to getting under 10 L/100km, I have actually achieved 9.8 on the Pacific Highway on a trip to Port Macquarie, but that was because of the excessive length of restricted speed zones. At least for my particular car, its consumption at a steady 110 to 120 kph on flat roads seems to be dead on 10 L/100km. We did well over 2000 km in Tassie, very little of which is either straight or flat, so I'm reasonably happy with the overall result

My car will return under teh 10l/100km average quite easily - fact it will sit right on it if not a fraction over the magic 10.0 on the town cycle...

Did a 380 round trip last night, and I put only JUST over 35L in when I got back to Mackay - this included some big hill climbs - with a good idle time length at the top to cool the transmission down before shutting it down - a spirited drive through another range - again with more idle time to cool down.
Idle time while waiting for everyone to turn around after I led the group up the wrong hill section, which resulted in a VERY narrow 'street' which attacked a couple of our cars badly .... :S

Even before the SKR flash, I was returning great economy, I dont drive for economy though.

Mine registers 15-16L/100km in city driving. When I drove from Wagga to Melb average was 9.5-10L/100. HATE START/STOP D: GRRR

Mine registers 15-16L/100km in city driving. When I drove from Wagga to Melb average was 9.5-10L/100. HATE START/STOP D: GRRR

That sounds spot on mate for typical consumption.

LPGas is your friend.

Mine gets the magic 9lt per hundred on a trip sitting on 110km\h with cruise working. Driving to and from work a mixture of freeway and normal roads gets consistent 12.5's but it is driven for economy no hard starts etc etc

For my short commute each day (I reckon the TL isn't warm until I have about 1 km to go!) I get an ordinary 16 L/100! Then I do a highway trip and it's in the low 10's - even below 10 if it's a 100 limit. Driving around town (stop/start) you wonder why you put up with the fuel usage................then it rains and you remember why you bought it in the first place!

my car if im doing 100 it drinks 9.4 per 100kms. 110 it drinks 10-11L per 100kms
full tank gets me about 6-700 a tank if highway driving, city and town drives i get about 4-500 :)

That's a shot from late Jan showing an average week for me, which is about 30 mins of peak hour morning and afternoon mon-fri, and maybe a trip into the city on the weekend with minimal freeway. I'd probly say, 50% peak, 10% freeway, 40% light town driving. It's a little higher than that now as school and uni were on break still at that point, I'm getting about 12.0-12.5 with the extra stop start from school/uni peepz.

http://i144.photobucket.com/albums/r161/rhys_fairall/IMG_0373.jpg
(Yes it was due for a service, that was the week after this was taken.)

For my short commute each day (I reckon the TL isn't warm until I have about 1 km to go!) I get an ordinary 16 L/100! Then I do a highway trip and it's in the low 10's - even below 10 if it's a 100 limit. Driving around town (stop/start) you wonder why you put up with the fuel usage................then it rains and you remember why you bought it in the first place!

Spot on! There's nothing to touch AWD in the wet.

I've recently returned from a 1K round trip to Canberra and averaged 14L/100km on LPG running a mixer system on my TJII AWD. That was with 2 adults and 2 kids and more than a bootfull of gear. Tyres are Dunlop SP300E 215/60/R16 on standard rims and running 34PSI. I believe it's the original oxygen sensor and the car has clocked 199K. It can use up to 20L/100k on short trips and I've seen it drop to as low as 12.8L/100km at a steady 100km/h.

LPG is certainly my friend. I certainly didn't buy the AWD for the power but it's great to drive on unsealed roads (which I travel regularly) and in the wet.

For my short commute each day (I reckon the TL isn't warm until I have about 1 km to go!) I get an ordinary 16 L/100! Then I do a highway trip and it's in the low 10's - even below 10 if it's a 100 limit. Driving around town (stop/start) you wonder why you put up with the fuel usage................then it rains and you remember why you bought it in the first place!

Spot on! There's nothing to touch AWD in the wet.

I have had the TL go sideways twice in the wet and change lanes on me once, apparently my driving can touch the AWD in the wet :P

Fuel economy varies from 10.6 - 12.4L/100km but that is basically 5mins suburban driving then highway driving not in peak hour. I get 4 days out of a tank.

for me i can get 450-550 a tank surburban driving then highway i get about 650-700 and that using BP Ultimate

I have had the TL go sideways twice in the wet and change lanes on me once, apparently my driving can touch the AWD in the wet :P

Fuel economy varies from 10.6 - 12.4L/100km but that is basically 5mins suburban driving then highway driving not in peak hour. I get 4 days out of a tank.

Mine is sitting on 14.4 at the moment. All suburban and heavy roadwork start/stop traffic with somewhat of a lead foot. But then again, mine weighs in at 1700kg kerb mass.

As for going sideways in the wet, what sort of tyres are you running? Try fitting some performance tyres with good wet grip. It is also a good idea to do manual shifting, especially approaching bends and round-abouts. Down change a couple of gears as you approach and then hold the rev or increase rev slightly as you negotiate the turn. Leaving the gear at 5th or even 4th especially when negotiating tight turns upsets the car's balance.

Mine is sitting on 14.4 at the moment. All suburban and heavy roadwork start/stop traffic with somewhat of a lead foot. But then again, mine weighs in at 1700kg kerb mass.

As for going sideways in the wet, what sort of tyres are you running? Try fitting some performance tyres with good wet grip. It is also a good idea to do manual shifting, especially approaching bends and round-abouts. Down change a couple of gears as you approach and then hold the rev or increase rev slightly as you negotiate the turn. Leaving the gear at 5th or even 4th especially when negotiating tight turns upsets the car's balance.

Current Fuel; 12L/100km

I was running Kenda Kommets at the time. Now have Zetum solus' and one bridgestone turanza from memory (yay for spare tyres). Also, I could do the above OR just not drive tired and like a wanker, going into a roundabout at 70km/hr at the first rain of the season. Can't really blame the car for that, though never lost control completely or was worried, merely pointing out that they aren't invincible either. The lane swapping however wasn't in my hands, I was driving sensibly up one of the hills of the Warrego highway and aquaplaned across, I was very lucky there wasn't another car next to me at the time.

What the hell are Kenda Kommets and Zetum Solus'? :confused:

Get some proper tyres lol

What the hell are Kenda Kommets and Zetum Solus'? :confused:

Get some proper tyres lol

They were free :D just your generic tyres offered at time of wheel alignment. I shall get some better tyres when someone gives me a better job lol

They were free :D just your generic tyres offered at time of wheel alignment. I shall get some better tyres when someone gives me a better job lol
Get some better tyres now to avoid paying excess when they don't do the job!! Only thing between your car and the road remember, they're keeping you alive. I'd rather be a bit short for a few weeks and have good rubber than feel a little better about my savings account with cheap shit for however long. Good tyres give better fuel economy too ;) (keeping it relevant)

I get just over 10L/100km on trips, but around town/city traffic it gets about the same as a centurion tank.

I've recently returned from a 1K round trip to Canberra and averaged 14L/100km on LPG running a mixer system on my TJII AWD. That was with 2 adults and 2 kids and more than a bootfull of gear. Tyres are Dunlop SP300E 215/60/R16 on standard rims and running 34PSI. I believe it's the original oxygen sensor and the car has clocked 199K. It can use up to 20L/100k on short trips and I've seen it drop to as low as 12.8L/100km at a steady 100km/h.
I think you need your O2 sensor checked/replaced. I've managed better than 14l/100km on regular unleaded petrol towing a caravan with my 2005 TW VRX AWD ...

I'm going to get the O2 sensor replaced at the next service. Today I drove from Geelong to Melbourne and back and the LPG consumption was 11.7l/100km. I do this trip regularly and this is the best fuel consumption I've achieved to date. I'll be thrilled if it improves after the O2 sensor is replaced. At 51c pl it's cheap motoring for this type of car.

ok boys and girls i am reading ervything here and now im worried my readings are 14.8L\100ks and 15.9L\100ks and im not driving hard at all :(

ok boys and girls i am reading ervything here and now im worried my readings are 14.8L\100ks and 15.9L\100ks and im not driving hard at all :(

Hmm... I got a new radiator, condensor and transmission cooler and battery was disconnected for some time. Now the transmission shifts much smoother (almost not noticeable). I shift manually all the time. The consumption is also coming down (13.9). Is this due to a new radiator? I doubt the thermostat was replaced.

Same here with shifting i do it myself

Hmm... I got a new radiator, condensor and transmission cooler and battery was disconnected for some time. Now the transmission shifts much smoother (almost not noticeable). I shift manually all the time. The consumption is also coming down (13.9). Is this due to a new radiator? I doubt the thermostat was replaced.

did u get an inline filter with that tran cooler

did u get an inline filter with that tran cooler

No. I had it done a while back and it got replaced due to a small incident. Someone's towbar poke through grill and into the radiator etc.

ok boys and girls i am reading ervything here and now im worried my readings are 14.8L\100ks and 15.9L\100ks and im not driving hard at all :(
That does seem somewhat high. I'd suggest getting your O2 sensor checked/replaced. A faulty sensor can cause the car to run an overly-rich fuel mix.

ok boys and girls i am reading ervything here and now im worried my readings are 14.8L\100ks and 15.9L\100ks and im not driving hard at all :(

Same here with shifting i do it myself


If you are spending your time in Sydney or heavy urban traffic that isnt too bad, you dont have to drive hard in those conditions for the fuel to dissapear. I drive my AWD TJ here in Canberra to and from work in light traffic with 80 and 100kmh freeways with a few traffic lights and tend to flog it from the lights to redline once or twice using the manual shifter and get 14.5. You only have to accelerate faster than the surrounding traffic a few times to keep your consumption up.

When I drive long distance I get a 9.4-10.0

Been averaging high 13s to low 14s per 100km when driven spiritedly on my daily drive. Have for two weeks driven it moderately sedately and it has dropped to high 11s to low 12s per 100km on the same route.