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Hey guys,

Unfortunately im not good good when i comes to matching numbers on car audio

i have around $1500-2000 to spend, and i want to install a double din touchscreen, 4ch amp, a pair of component splits, and a pair of 6x9s

please use prices from australian online stores, eg, ryda.com.au

cheers

Why 6x9's? Not wanting to run a sub?

Why buy online? Visit some of the Northern Suburb audio store's, Ang's is a good one to get some quality gear from.

yeah not really after a sub. Just want better audio quality then stock. The Altera LS audio is getting a bit old (6 cd stacker, 6x9s, components and tweeters), so im looking to get something that supports MP3s and is a bit sharper/clearer to the ears

Hey!
Just change the front speakers to splits, and use an AMP
Forget about the 6x9's if you do get them just low pass them and use them for bass only.

Well in this instance i would still suggest taking a trip to a Local SA car audio business, as i along with alot of other guys over on MEA are trying to get Car Audio back off the ground, so i believe in supporting your locals.

Also this way you can get some solid advice and a chance to listen to the speaker before you buy.

What do people think?

Pioneer TS-D6902R 6x9 80w nominal - $259

Pioneer TS-D1720C Car Speakers - 60w nominal - $319.85

Soundstream LW4.500 Lil Wonder - 4 Ch Amplifier 65wx4 $299.85

Pioneer AVH-P3250BT In Dash DVD Player $749

With myself, i need to listen to something before i buy it, go check out Ang's Car Audio on Northeast Rd or Ministry of Bass on South Road, might have some good stuff on display,

Get Sub tho its killa Hektic. Would blow ur budget but

I had a soundstream amp and Digital Designs sub combination in my old commodore. Its nice and all for shows, but for what i wants (sharper, crisper sound and a bit more kick then stock), a sub isnt really needed. Plus i like my boot room.

Definitely listen to stuff before you buy if you can. Also, at the price you are getting those splits for, I'd be looking at something like the Vibe Black Air 6's or something along those lines.

I have to agree with TimmyB here.

Also the old Soundstream amps were pretty good but im not to sure about the modern stuff.

i used to use a Soundstream LW2.260 Lil Wonder with a DD512, and it was rock solid. Soundstream amps still have a reputation of underrating their power outputs.

For the $ you're considering on the Pioneer components, why not check out the Boston S-60s - avail from Ryda. Or Polk Audio DB6501 or MM series components. Tonkins stock the latter. Both very highly regarded.

i used to use a Soundstream LW2.260 Lil Wonder with a DD512, and it was rock solid. Soundstream amps still have a reputation of underrating their power outputs.

Yes the lil wonders did have a good reputation, they may still underrate their powers but im not too sure about the quality.

Pioneer TS-D1720C Car Speakers – 60w nominal – $319.85

Soundstream LW4.500 Lil Wonder – 4 Ch Amplifier 65wx4 $299.85

Pioneer AVH-P3250BT In Dash DVD Player $749

Pioneer TS-A1673S 6" 3 Way Car Speaker 35w RMS $104.85

Kenwood KAC-M525 2 Channel Amplifier 60x2 (for rear speakers) $118.85

Pioneer SLIM301S4 12" 1000W Subwoofer In Box $296.85

Aerpro MX000 2000W Amp Power Wiring Kit 0GA $144.95

Total: $2034.29 :S

Why not run the rear speakers off the headunit?
I've been convinced that the rear speakers are just for a bit of fill, not to actually compete with the front speakers.
And that will bring the price under $2k :) hehe.

P.S. 0GA wiring is overkill. I've used 8GA (~250W RMS amp), but I'd recommend 4GA in case you wanted to get more serious later, but 0GA would just be harder to route (less flexible) and not provide any benefit. (unless you wanted to get seriously serious)

The reason i want to amp the rear speakers is because i once ran soundstream 3 way coax's directly off a head unit, and they would distort at higher volume. I dont want to spend all this money, or to find out im still hearing distortion from behind me

I used to be just like you insisting on not needing a sub, looking for a clear, clean setup. Let's just say that didn't last. You won't either.

Personal opinion, don't waste your money on a 4 channel amp and exxy rear speakers. Get yourself a good quality 2 channel amp (Say a JL 300/2V2, $500ish), and some good components for your front stage, then spend the rest on building up your front doors with good baffles and plenty of sound deadening, make the door a good solid box for your speakers. Some basic 6x9's faded out off HU power for rear fill is sufficient in the rear.

On a $2k budget, you're looking at $700ish for the headunit you want, $500ish for an amp like say the JL mentioned, $500-600 for a good pair of speakers (you'll need to decide that based on what you like the sound of, but I'd be looking at brands like Focal, Digital Designs, Boston etc, not Pioneer/Kenwood etc) which leaves you with $200-300 to prep the doors and get your wiring together, which is plenty. That'd be a damn sight better than some $300 pioneers for the front and rear and a lil-wonder-why-they're-still-making-these amplifier.

Food for thought.

After sampling some of the Audio gear in instore, and being impressed with the quality of audio from soundstream (in the price range), and being a happy customer of them in the past, myself and my mate george who works at MotoWorx come up with:

Headunit
Pioneer AVH-P4250DVD
http://www.pioneer.com.au/Products/Car%20Entertainment/Visual%20Audio/AVH-%20P4250DVD.aspx

splits:
Soundstream LS60.C
http://www.soundstream.com/los/components.htm

6x9s
Soundstream SF-693T
http://www.soundstream.com/AudioProducts/Speakers_Tweeters/arachnid.htm

Amplifier 4 channel
Soundstream LW4.300e
http://www.soundstream.com/manuals/2009/supplementtal%2009%20catalog.pdf

Amplifier 2 channel/mono
Soundstream TRX2.320
http://www.npsonline.com.au/shop/item/soundstream-trx2320

Subwoofer
SOUNDSTREAM PRIMAL SW-125E

12" SUBWOOFER 300W RMS

General Features
High Performance Component Subwoofer
Dual 2 Ohm 12" Subwoofer
300W RMS Power Handling
Black Zirconium Coated Injection Cone
NBR-Rubber Surround
2" KSV Kapton Voice Coil
Nickel Plated 8ga Compression Wire Terminal
Poly Cotton Spider
Silver Texture Coat Finish on Stamped Steel Basket
Suspension Integrated Tinsel Leads
Vented Pole Piece

Ported 12" Box

4 guage Dual Amp Wiring Kit

Installation

Total: $2600

Some of the soundstream gear is 2011 stock still yet to be listed on their website

small change

Headunit
Pioneer AVH-P4250DVD
http://www.pioneer.com.au/Products/C...0P4250DVD.aspx

splits:
Soundstream LS60.C
http://www.soundstream.com/los/components.htm

6x9s
Soundstream SF-693T
http://www.soundstream.com/AudioProd...s/arachnid.htm

Amplifier 4 channel
Soundstream LW4.300e
http://www.soundstream.com/manuals/2...%20catalog.pdf

Subwoofers
2x SOUNDSTREAM PRIMAL SW-125E 300W RMS running in parrallel 2ohm

Amplifier Class D Mono
Kenwood KAC-8105D 500w x1 RMS @2ohm
http://au.kenwood.com/Car_Entertainment/Power_Amplifiers/KAC-8105D

Dual 12" Carpeted Box

4 guage Dual Amp Wiring Kit

Installation

Total: $2820

There is some good advice on this thread. My personal opinion, 1)A double din touchscreen is a lot of dollars, not contributing to sound. Single Din with same sound quality, (don't ask me how you measeure this, but you understand what i mean), will be sig cheaper. Put you money in the front end of the car. This is where YOU sit, so a pile of money thrown at speakers in the back is IMHO a waste. Quality component speakers, a good 4 channel amp, and avoid the 6x9's. A small sub, will back fill the bass lost with car/road noise.

cheers
Nick

The reason i want to amp the rear speakers is because i once ran soundstream 3 way coax's directly off a head unit, and they would distort at higher volume. I dont want to spend all this money, or to find out im still hearing distortion from behind me

Ah a fader is a wonderful device :) Set the amped fronts to where you want them, then fade the rears to suit... or visa verser :)

Don't like either of those packages personally, head unit I like and the speakers are personal preference (although I think there's better for the money, even the local Soundstream demo car around here doesn't run Soundstream front splits :P), but the amps are shocking choices if you ask me. That being said, I'm yet to really see any of the advice given taken on-board, so why bother explaining right?