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380matey
08-12-2010, 03:54 PM
Has anyone done a 35w HID conversion on high beam yet? Looks like you can pick up a kit fairly cheaply on evilbay and they reckon the bulb life is heaps longer and is considerably brighter.:eek2:
Red Valdez
08-12-2010, 04:26 PM
I did high and low beam on my TJ's parabolic lights (both 35w), so obviously the results will differ a bit, but anyway.
Distance didn't really improve, but there was a greater spread (mainly because the beam pattern went to shit :P) and the distance that was lit up was brighter. There's no doubt that even 35w HIDs are noticeably brighter than regular bulbs (I had Philips +50 bulbs beforehand).
Dad has a set of Narva spotlights on his Territory and the results were similar, going from Philips +80 bulbs to 55w HIDs. Distance didn't really improve, but the area that the lights covered was much brighter.
There are drawbacks though. Your light output is uneven, and you loose your 'cut off'. From cool, xenon lights take a couple of seconds to power up. If you're on and off the high beams, they come back on near-instantaneously, but the first few times you turn them on you won't immediately get any light out of them.
HIDs definitely aren't for everyone - if you haven't tried them, Philips +80 bulbs might be worth it. Definitely less light output than HIDs but you don't get any of the HID drawbacks. If the 380 wiring is anything like the Magnas, relays with bigger wiring would help too (HIDs draw less power than regular bulbs so if you stick with 35w HIDs you don't need to upgrade your wiring).
Bulb life is indeed significantly better with HIDs according to my auto electrician... he knows of truckies that were replacing regular bulbs every two weeks... but had no issues with HIDs.
If you decide to down the HID track, make sure you go for 4300k bulbs. That's the colour temperature that most cars with OEM HIDs use - it's a very white light. The higher the colour temperature you go, it becomes more fatiguing, and light output drops. Anything greater than 6000k is only for the rice factor.
I did a fair bit of research into HIDs before I got mine, I've been meaning to do up a guide to them sometime but unfortunately haven't gotten around to it :(
maggie3.5
08-12-2010, 05:24 PM
Well,H.I.D for me work fine on my magna with Para's,but what ever you do,DONT put them in your 380,in the H4 ,as the spread is so crap...
jimbeam_james
08-12-2010, 06:47 PM
yer mate ive done it, i had some real issues getting the big ass 55w hid globe into the H1 hole.
seems to be ok atm but i definitely need to align them lol
dobbsy1990
08-12-2010, 07:20 PM
jaycar has a has a HID low beam/ hi beam kit for $149
Mecha-wombat
08-12-2010, 07:47 PM
Need to get the projector lenses as well so a kit with those are round 200 bucks
for highs no need for projectors
380matey
10-12-2010, 01:19 PM
yer mate ive done it, i had some real issues getting the big ass 55w hid globe into the H1 hole.
seems to be ok atm but i definitely need to align them lol
JB were you meaning H7? Or did you fit them into something other than a 380?
380matey
10-12-2010, 01:29 PM
Need to get the projector lenses as well so a kit with those are round 200 bucks
for highs no need for projectors
Thanks firstly to Red for your great input there. I have found out similar info with my research, hence me looking at the HID. I am on my 3rd set of high beam globes and would rather have something that has the longer legs time wise.
Mecha, I just knew that you would have some input on this one lol. You are talking about projector lenses for the H4 set up were you?
jimbeam_james
10-12-2010, 03:02 PM
JB were you meaning H7? Or did you fit them into something other than a 380?
lol just realised this was a 380 thread :S they went in the high beams H1 in my tj vrx.....
380matey
14-12-2010, 06:17 AM
So it looks like no one has actually done the high beam on a 380 yet. Mmm maybe a project for the new year.
maggie3.5
14-12-2010, 11:35 AM
So it looks like no one has actually done the high beam on a 380 yet. Mmm maybe a project for the new year.
Well,H.I.D for me work fine on my magna with Para's,but what ever you do,DONT put them in your 380,in the H4 ,as the spread is so crap...
Reread your first post,and,duh,realised,that ,yes,i have done a HID to the high beams.
Works really well,once they warm up,but ,again,i wouldn't use them in the low/high H4 part of the light.
380matey
14-12-2010, 02:17 PM
Reread your first post,and,duh,realised,that ,yes,i have done a HID to the high beams.
Works really well,once they warm up,but ,again,i wouldn't use them in the low/high H4 part of the light.
No it sounds like the low/high is not a goer. Is the gain from upgraded Xenon globes, say something like the nightbreakers, to the HID on high beam that noticeable? How long do yours take to get up to maximum lux. Do yours flicker and if not what sort did you get? (waaay too many questions I know, sorry)
380matey
28-12-2010, 06:05 PM
So with the 380 being a canbus critter is there any problem with canbus and the HID conversion. any errors
maggie3.5
28-12-2010, 06:17 PM
So with the 380 being a canbus critter is there any problem with canbus and the HID conversion. any errors
I haven't had a problem ,and ,as stated,i have them on the high/low -high beams.....
380matey
29-12-2010, 03:44 PM
I have noted that there are a few kits that are canbus friendly and flicker free. I would rather get a kit like this and spend a little more and if it flickers then send it straight back
Mecha-wombat
30-12-2010, 08:07 PM
Thinking of doing the foggies instead 1000k hid full JDM spec
380matey
01-01-2011, 08:43 AM
Thinking of doing the foggies instead 1000k hid full JDM spec
Are they the really yellow ones??
Mecha-wombat
02-01-2011, 01:27 PM
yeap JDM spec
BTW heavy fog on old princes hwy today at midday while in Waterfall 36C Wacky as
380matey
02-01-2011, 01:37 PM
thats waterfall for you. It gets really narky with fog heading down to the gong from sydney from time to time. I tend to drive in the fast lane all the time so that I dont hit one of the mobile chicanes parked in the slow lane. I don't sit on the speed limit BTW, it is just that some people may as well stop they are going so slow!!
380matey
28-01-2011, 04:52 PM
I just got my kit today 55w version. Unfortunately after waiting that long one of the globes is broken. Worse still they don't appear to fit. The globes fit in ok but they have two spade connectors and not the one piece plastic connector like OEM. The OEM one appears to hold the metal clip in place securely. It appears that without this you cant secure the globe in place. Anyone have any thoughts?
maggie3.5
28-01-2011, 05:12 PM
I just got my kit today 55w version. Unfortunately after waiting that long one of the globes is broken. Worse still they don't appear to fit. The globes fit in ok but they have two spade connectors and not the one piece plastic connector like OEM. The OEM one appears to hold the metal clip in place securely. It appears that without this you cant secure the globe in place. Anyone have any thoughts?
Are they h7
The globes dont have spade connectors on them,as the globe end goes into the ballast...the spade connectors go into the oem loom,this is where the ballast gets its signal from...
If the globes are not sitting flush in the housing,have you the right ones,,,are they in the right way...should really be a simple plug and play proposition...weird...
380matey
28-01-2011, 06:44 PM
After some fiddling around I managed to get the drivers side one in. It sure makes the nightbreakers look yellow. So now I have one HID high beam and one halogen. I did a road test and stopped on a dark section of road to see what the difference was. I stood covering the HID, yep you could sure notice it being covered up. I did the same with the nightbreaker. Whilst you could notice a change it wasn't as dramatic. The only down side to them so far is that this one appears to be shooting lower than the other side and I dont think there is anyway of adjusting it up. Please someone prove me wrong on this. I would appreciate it lol
doddski
28-01-2011, 09:29 PM
Not wanting to jump into something that I dont really know that much about...
(light research into the idea of converting to HID on my part recently)
but here goes
With the kits.... I thought I may have read somewhere.. that you shoudl not power up just ONE HID globe out of the pair (if running off the same box - i guess thats the ballast perhaps?) as it will cause damage to the box (ballast?) and cause the other light to not function at the same intensity...
Please do correct me though If I am wrong :)
Red Valdez
29-01-2011, 12:47 AM
Yes and no doddski.
My dad has been disconnecting his HIDs on his car (between the light and the ballast), so that he could aim his spotlights separately (one spread beam + one pencil beam). He did this despite our auto electrician telling him not to lol Unsurprisingly, he managed to destroy his ballasts - his HIDs would flicker on at best, and at worst wouldn't work at all. So yes, once they're wired in, you shouldn't be disconnecting them.
However, having just one HID connected shouldn't in itself be a drama. I have HID low+high beams, so I have four ballasts hidden amongst my engine bay. Glad I didn't have to wire that all in.... :)
380matey
29-01-2011, 03:14 PM
Each of these lights are stand alone with their own ballast so they are in no way connected. I will have to take a photo of the car to show you the difference. Not sure if a photo will do it but we shall see.
kevin380
19-06-2011, 05:00 PM
Hi all, I have completed a full conversion using these
http://www.xenon-man.com/Bi-Xenon_Projector_Lens_G8.html
And of course the standard HID, H7 conversion kit for the separate high beam
I am wrapped with them and now I do not blind everyone and they look awesome I have all 6000k and 55watt ballast these are not easy to fit you will need to remove the front bumper bar and the lights and then heat the whole light to pull apart but the result is awesome
I recently also added a flexible led strip on the inside ring of the hi/lo part of the light to make it looks like a factory fitted DRL also awesome, neat and ( safe as my car is blue some people just pull out in front of me)
If anyone decides to do this conversion please ask for help if you need it as there is some shortcuts that i learned as i did the job
Cheers Kev
MR SPL
19-06-2011, 05:24 PM
Cheap projectors probably wasn't the best way to go but a good retrofit all the same :) Any pics?
kevin380
19-06-2011, 05:34 PM
yes it is a bit risky using these cheap ones but i could not find anyone making good quality (bosch ) would have been prefered, but i have been running them for 12 months and had no probs so far
I will upload some pics as soon as i take some Cheers Kev
MR SPL
19-06-2011, 05:37 PM
Cheers mate,
For my first projector conversion i tried cheap projectors.Not really happy with them so after alot of research i found some nice quality ones im going to do a quad setup with
My other concern is you are using 35w rated projectors with 55w HID kit
Look forward to the pics!
kevin380
19-06-2011, 05:59 PM
sounds good, please let me know where to get the nice quality ones from!
Yes the watts was a concern for me too but both 35 and 55 globes are the same and it is just tha ballast that changes.
I figured the metal projector housing would take the higher temp and so far so good!
when i got these cheap ones i got two sets just in case something did not work and it proved to be smart as one of there Helo rings stopped working
Many Thanks Kevin
MR SPL
19-06-2011, 06:03 PM
These are the best by far i have found. Very close to the very searched for S2000 projector. Good quality a little bit pricey but people aware by them
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/index.php?cPath=25&osCsid=q50llsn4nvge52444p7ifdbelvnlas48
maggie3.5
19-06-2011, 06:40 PM
Hi all, I have completed a full conversion using these
http://www.xenon-man.com/Bi-Xenon_Projector_Lens_G8.html
And of course the standard HID, H7 conversion kit for the separate high beam
I am wrapped with them and now I do not blind everyone and they look awesome I have all 6000k and 55watt ballast these are not easy to fit you will need to remove the front bumper bar and the lights and then heat the whole light to pull apart but the result is awesome
I recently also added a flexible led strip on the inside ring of the hi/lo part of the light to make it looks like a factory fitted DRL also awesome, neat and ( safe as my car is blue some people just pull out in front of me)
If anyone decides to do this conversion please ask for help if you need it as there is some shortcuts that i learned as i did the job
Cheers Kev
ppfftt....and here i was thinking i would do a 380 bi-xenon conversion first....just checked out the size of the lens...smallish though
Cheap projectors probably wasn't the best way to go but a good retrofit all the same :) Any pics?
yes it is a bit risky using these cheap ones but i could not find anyone making good quality (Bosch ) would have been preferred, but i have been running them for 12 months and had no probs so far
I will upload some pics as soon as i take some Cheers Kev
yes,please do ,it will be interesting to see how these look in a black VR-X headlight assembly.Did you use or get shrouds as well ??
sounds good, please let me know where to get the nice quality ones from!
Yes the watts was a concern for me too but both 35 and 55 globes are the same and it is just tha ballast that changes.
I figured the metal projector housing would take the higher temp and so far so good!
when i got these cheap ones i got two sets just in case something did not work and it proved to be smart as one of there Helo rings stopped working
Many Thanks Kevin
These are the best by far i have found. Very close to the very searched for S2000 projector. Good quality a little bit pricey but people aware by them
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/index.php?cPath=25&osCsid=q50llsn4nvge52444p7ifdbelvnlas48
like he said......and this is an AWESOME site if you want to see all that is great in lighting...
telpat16
19-06-2011, 07:21 PM
Hi all, I have completed a full conversion using these
http://www.xenon-man.com/Bi-Xenon_Projector_Lens_G8.html
And of course the standard HID, H7 conversion kit for the separate high beam
I am wrapped with them and now I do not blind everyone and they look awesome I have all 6000k and 55watt ballast these are not easy to fit you will need to remove the front bumper bar and the lights and then heat the whole light to pull apart but the result is awesome
I recently also added a flexible led strip on the inside ring of the hi/lo part of the light to make it looks like a factory fitted DRL also awesome, neat and ( safe as my car is blue some people just pull out in front of me)
If anyone decides to do this conversion please ask for help if you need it as there is some shortcuts that i learned as i did the job
Cheers Kev
Guess you are are lucky in that SA doesn't do annual roadworthy, as I understand ADR's require auto levelling and lens cleaning for HID!
I brought back H4 hi/lo and H7 sets from my time in Dubai but am not game to fit them here in NSW - I think I will just go for high end halogen globe upgrades
Terry (ex Road Authority person)
:)
MR SPL
19-06-2011, 07:27 PM
Even if we did have annual road worthys i would take the lights out then put them back in after they were cleared to fool a person such as yourself :P
maggie3.5
19-06-2011, 07:28 PM
Guess you are are lucky in that SA doesn't do annual roadworthy, as I understand ADR's require auto levelling and lens cleaning for HID!
I brought back H4 hi/lo and H7 sets from my time in Dubai but am not game to fit them here in NSW - I think I will just go for high end halogen globe upgrades
Terry (ex Road Authority person)
:)
guess we are lucky then....next step....color coded projectors (http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?31167-How-do-projectors-have-a-quot-color-quot-to-them&highlight=mitsubishi) lol
kevin380
19-06-2011, 07:55 PM
Thanks so much for that i have just ordered my new ones i got these
Products
•1 x Bi-xenon Morimoto Mini Stage III Kit (D2S)◦Projectors: RHD (UK, Australia, etc)
◦Bulbs: Morimoto 5Five 5000K D2S
◦CCFL Angel Eyes: Yes
◦Ballasts: 5) Morimoto 5Five 50w
◦Shrouds: Gatling Gun
◦Wire Harness: Relay: H4/9003
$325.00
hopefully they get here soon
kevin380
19-06-2011, 07:56 PM
YES YES so would i HID rule
kev
telpat16
19-06-2011, 08:03 PM
Even if we did have annual road worthys i would take the lights out then put them back in after they were cleared to fool a person such as yourself :P
PM sent
telpat16
19-06-2011, 08:07 PM
My (ex employer) policy bit said am I to gather that an effective HID conversion for a 380 requires projector lenses also?
For both hi/lo and hi???
T
kevin380
19-06-2011, 08:18 PM
Hey Terry the hi/lo h4 headlight part (big outer one ) needs projector so you do not blind others when on low beam
The h7 high beam (smaller inner one ) has no need to be projector as it is turned off when you dip head lights
Regards Kev
kevin380
19-06-2011, 08:23 PM
I love this site these guys look very good
The drl's they sell i recently bought the same from auto pro hahndorf and they work vry well
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/index.php?cPath=24
telpat16
19-06-2011, 09:00 PM
?/"drl's" = ?
maggie3.5
19-06-2011, 09:57 PM
Thanks so much for that i have just ordered my new ones i got these
Products
•1 x Bi-xenon Morimoto Mini Stage III Kit (D2S)◦Projectors: RHD (UK, Australia, etc)
◦Bulbs: Morimoto 5Five 5000K D2S
◦CCFL Angel Eyes: Yes
◦Ballasts: 5) Morimoto 5Five 50w
◦Shrouds: Gatling Gun
◦Wire Harness: Relay: H4/9003
$325.00
hopefully they get here soon
wow.........gotta see these installed,both pre and post...must give me a pm when it arrives mate ,so i can check it out....
MR SPL
19-06-2011, 10:37 PM
Thanks so much for that i have just ordered my new ones i got these
Products
•1 x Bi-xenon Morimoto Mini Stage III Kit (D2S)◦Projectors: RHD (UK, Australia, etc)
◦Bulbs: Morimoto 5Five 5000K D2S
◦CCFL Angel Eyes: Yes
◦Ballasts: 5) Morimoto 5Five 50w
◦Shrouds: Gatling Gun
◦Wire Harness: Relay: H4/9003
$325.00
hopefully they get here soon
Interesting package there :)
You went with the 50w HID like i did but i do my own angel eyes and im getting different projectors. Any reason you chose those ones out of curiosity? And double check the shroud sizes also. The gattling gun is quite a large shroud and only fits certain projectors
kevin380
21-06-2011, 02:18 PM
Yes I may have made a mistake with that combination,
I was so excited to find a good quality supplier that I got carried away.
If they don’t work at least I can get a set that will later on
Grubco
21-06-2011, 02:42 PM
?/"drl's" = ?
= daytime running lights.
maggie3.5
21-06-2011, 04:09 PM
Thanks so much for that i have just ordered my new ones i got these
Products
•1 x Bi-xenon Morimoto Mini Stage III Kit (D2S)◦Projectors: RHD (UK, Australia, etc)
◦Bulbs: Morimoto 5Five 5000K D2S
◦CCFL Angel Eyes: Yes
◦Ballasts: 5) Morimoto 5Five 50w
◦Shrouds: Gatling Gun
◦Wire Harness: Relay: H4/9003
$325.00
hopefully they get here soon
Interesting package there :)
You went with the 50w HID like i did but i do my own angel eyes and im getting different projectors. Any reason you chose those ones out of curiosity? And double check the shroud sizes also. The gattling gun is quite a large shroud and only fits certain projectors
Well,if they dont fit,then i will buy them off you...
kevin380
21-06-2011, 05:52 PM
http://http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee415/kj380vrx/048.jpg
I think i have worked out a photo bucket site x-fingers try this
http://s1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee415/kj380vrx/
cheers Kevin
maggie3.5
21-06-2011, 05:59 PM
here ya go.....
......have you got a more front on shot of the lights...
.........is the angel eye ring hooked up..
.......looks great...different approach and location for the drl's....
http://i1226.photobucket.com/albums/ee415/kj380vrx/035.jpg
MR SPL
21-06-2011, 06:05 PM
Looks excellent :) Only thing is you can tell they are cheapish projectors by the beam width and cutoff. Other then that top job!
MR SPL
21-06-2011, 06:06 PM
Oh no! Also noticed you got the LHD version :S
kevin380
21-06-2011, 06:09 PM
yes i totally agree thats why the new set is on the way ( can not wait im like a cat on a hot tin roof )
even still the cheap chineese ones are far better than original
i will post some more pics when the good set have been installed in a couple of weeks
kevin380
21-06-2011, 06:11 PM
yes i thought that too it is ment to be rh but ohh well they are giong soon
MR SPL
21-06-2011, 06:58 PM
Cant wait for the progress mate :)
kevin380
21-06-2011, 07:03 PM
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/product_info.php?cPath=24&products_id=237
Here is what i have ordered so hopefully these will be even better and the right direction
these are the biggest ones that i can get into the light by simply screwing them into position
thanks heaps for all the help and feedback
Regards Kevin
telpat16
21-06-2011, 09:51 PM
Tks
I was a bit slow that day!
T
Grubco
22-06-2011, 07:19 PM
They look awesome! So much better than the plain little bulbs sitting in mine now.
kevin380
22-06-2011, 09:08 PM
Thanks Dave, I am a bit of a light nut as i am sure you have worked out & tend to push the limits
Here is a some more links to show everyone what has been shipped from america today for me
I hope this gives you all some incentative to go HID regards kevin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFF2XoZJIBo&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piaen7w9iNI&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UMlUfBbc1M&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoPEdq7_QSY&NR=1
kevin380
24-06-2011, 08:04 PM
Hello all,
Well after studying there web site and sizes of all the components I think I accidentally got It perfect
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/index.php
Here are some more comparisons of projectors
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/content.php?2-Bi-Xenon-Output-Comparison-TL-E55-Murano-FX-IS-e46-LR3
The projector will screw in without modification and the lens is clear (this is meant to give a crisper line and more colour)
The shroud is the biggest they do. This will almost fill the high/low reflector and cover the projector totally
The Angel eye is a big 100mm for this shroud
I am thinking of painting the low grooves of the shroud the same colour as the car or the same as the grey/black surround, what thoughts do you have MR SPL ?
Many Thanks Kevin
MR SPL
24-06-2011, 08:33 PM
Will be good if you got it perfect :) From all my research the gattling gun is one of the biggest shrouds made by anyone lol If the projector is going to go in that easy you have been blessed! lol as for the clear lens i have seen the comparison photos between many different types, it certainly makes a fair difference in how the crisp the cutoff line is and the colour effects.
I planned to do all mine gloss black for the quad setup. Yours might look good colour coded to the car though! have to photoshop and do some research to find out! :)
maggie3.5
24-06-2011, 09:24 PM
Will be good if you got it perfect :) From all my research the gattling gun is one of the biggest shrouds made by anyone lol If the projector is going to go in that easy you have been blessed! lol as for the clear lens i have seen the comparison photos between many different types, it certainly makes a fair difference in how the crisp the cutoff line is and the colour effects.
I planned to do all mine gloss black for the quad setup. Yours might look good colour coded to the car though! have to photoshop and do some research to find out! :)
stop pinching my ideas :slap:
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/album.php?albumid=70&attachmentid=3993
MR SPL
24-06-2011, 09:48 PM
stop pinching my ideas :slap:
Speaking of which i need my heatgun back for LED tail lights :)
maggie3.5
24-06-2011, 10:51 PM
Speaking of which i need my heatgun back for LED tail lights :)
you working today...sat ?
MR SPL
24-06-2011, 10:57 PM
Nope but i am going in there at some stage lol
TreeAdeyMan
26-06-2011, 08:34 AM
Speaking of which i need my heatgun back for LED tail lights :)
Michael,
I have a heat gun I hardly ever use, you can 'borrow' it for as long as you like. I've only used it twice ever, it's in as new nick. Swap you for my spray jacket Wed night?
KJ.
Grubco
26-06-2011, 11:33 AM
Thanks Dave, I am a bit of a light nut as i am sure you have worked out & tend to push the limits
Here is a some more links to show everyone what has been shipped from america today for me
I hope this gives you all some incentative to go HID regards kevin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFF2XoZJIBo&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=piaen7w9iNI&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UMlUfBbc1M&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoPEdq7_QSY&NR=1
I would love to do something like this, but looks too fiddly - and aren't HIDs illegal? Otherwise the bulb upgrades are probably good enough for me (just not those lame blue or green ones).
kevin380
29-06-2011, 08:46 PM
Hey KJ this is a little of topic but i just noticed you have a s3 vrx can you tell me the nm of your gas struts in the boot as my standard ones need to be a bit stronger for the extra boot spoiler i put on my s1 vrx i hope you can help, many thanks kevin
TreeAdeyMan
29-06-2011, 09:41 PM
Hey KJ this is a little of topic but i just noticed you have a s3 vrx can you tell me the nm of your gas struts in the boot as my standard ones need to be a bit stronger for the extra boot spoiler i put on my s1 vrx i hope you can help, many thanks kevin
Kevin,
Yes, I have a s3 VRX rear wing spoiler, but I added that a couple of years ago to my base model s1 380!
So I have the stock base model struts in my boot and I have no idea what their nm is. I also have no idea if there are 'stronger' boot struts fitted as stock to the s3 VRX.
I don't find raising the boot with the extra weight of the wing spoiler any real hassle, it might not go up by itself any more but it only needs a tiny little push with a pinky to get it all the way up.
So I reckon you won't have any hassles either if you fit a s3 wing with stock boot struts.
KJ.
kevin380
05-07-2011, 04:34 PM
Hello everyone interested in this thread DO NOT BUY FROM HERE
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/index.php
This product arrived faulty, cheap Chinese product VERY NASTY and very expensive American price over $300.00
bad bad bad poor quality that looked nice on net
the set i bought direct from the manufacturer is better by a long way and only $85.00
maggie3.5
05-07-2011, 05:18 PM
Hello everyone interested in this thread DO NOT BUY FROM HERE
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/index.php
This product arrived faulty, cheap Chinese product VERY NASTY and very expensive American price over $300.00
bad bad bad poor quality that looked nice on net
the set i bought direct from the manufacturer is better by a long way and only $85.00
wow............to say im gobsmacked is an understatement,don't know what i expected , but i didn't expect you to be so unhappy with the products.
Gee,and it was my impression that the stuff they used was all top gear.
Be very interested to hear what follow up you are going to do ,what feedback you get from them and what there explanation is for the faults you have pointed out.
So, just how bad was the stuff...??
Given your experience there,im really thinking i will just get mine from one of these guys here....RHD PROJECTORS.
(http://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?SearchText=RHD+PROJECTORS&catId=0)
MR SPL
05-07-2011, 05:35 PM
:o . . .
kevin380
07-07-2011, 08:34 PM
Hello I am not sure what details you would like so I will try to detail as much as possible plus and minus details
Products
•1 x Bi-xenon Morimoto Mini Stage III Kit (D2S)◦Projectors: RHD (UK, Australia, etc)
◦Bulbs: Morimoto 5Five 5000K D2S ◦CCFL Angel Eyes: Yes◦Ballasts: 5) Morimoto 5Five 50w
◦Shrouds: Gatling Gun ◦Wire Harness: Relay: H4/9003
•Sub-Total: $325.00
•Priority Mail International: $49.15
•Total: $374.15
1. Delivery time took 2 weeks so that is pretty good *cost is on the high end but acceptable*
2. The products arrived in good condition and all components were there
3. Shrouds are almost nasty plastic and really are not worth half of what they cost *the chrome is very thin rubs of if you have to clean with a rag b4 install or in my case after cutting a small amount off the bottom of the shroud & the finish is quite rough* BUT to my surprise once installed they look good (to paint or not? I probably would if I did again) they do need to be glued in as they are only a press fit and may vibrate of if you do not.
4. The projectors are probably the most disappointing part of the whole transaction these ones are designed to go straight thru the hole left by the h4 globe which needs to be made a little bigger (that’s ok) the shaft is not designed to accommodate for the Hi/Lo cable & connector so to overcome this we need to drill a 12mm hole in the original reflector to switch Hi/Lo. The mounting nuts & rubber cushions in this kit just don’t cut it, to get the projector stable is almost impossible I say almost as I did get one not to vibrate when driving over bumps in the road and one still shudders. They are moulded plastic and one of the 2 was short shot where the globe goes. On the plus the Hi/Lo dips VERY quick almost instant!
5. The ballasts seem to be very good no problems here although the leads are very short requiring very careful locating of it in relation to the bulb
6. The bulbs seem to be good D2S bulbs are very easy to connect just a 90 degree rotation from all 4 orientation now I have been driving with 6000k bulbs for more than 2 years which I now think are the best (a little too much sign reflection but very clear natural daylight colour) when I bought this kit I chose 5000k to see if I could get a bit more distance from the lights (as I live in the country and like to see as far as possible) and I think I have achieved the increase in distance but they now look more like halogen illumination so now I know 6000k is for me
7. The relay wiring kit works just fine and is the simple plug and play type that picks up on active or earth trigger for Hi/Lo dipping.
8. The hello rings are good (one of mine arrived broken) just bad luck in shipment.
9. After install the resulting light, cut of line, control of where that goes in adjusting the headlight is simply (humble pie) very good, YES I do like the end result and I think I will like it a lot more after I swap to 6000k bulbs (on the way as I type this)
So in summary I am happy with the end result just a little concerned about the longevity of this reflector. I am considering doing the conversion with the best 3” projector, not sure what that is yet but I sent them an email and I hope to have some advice back soon
I hope this helps Regards Kevin
MR SPL
07-07-2011, 08:40 PM
Hello everyone interested in this thread DO NOT BUY FROM HERE
http://www.theretrofitsource.com/index.php
This product arrived faulty, cheap Chinese product VERY NASTY and very expensive American price over $300.00
bad bad bad poor quality that looked nice on net
the set i bought direct from the manufacturer is better by a long way and only $85.00
After reading your latest post this post seems a little harsh doesn't it?
kevin380
08-07-2011, 09:11 PM
If interested some pictures are at
http://s1226.photobucket.com/home/kj380vrx/index
Regards Kevin
maggie3.5
09-07-2011, 06:50 AM
If interested some pictures are at
http://s1226.photobucket.com/home/kj380vrx/index
Regards Kevin
Well,nothing wrong with that then,the light output looks great,about the only thing i may have done ,is actually painted the std reflector black to make it look even more meaner,top job though.....
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