alright ive posted up a few things about this before but i need some more thoughts

took my TH in to get a tyre rotation/balance and alienment and after 30 mins they called me back saying i need 4 new tyres. anywhos went down there and talked to the guys and they said cambers wayy out of whack. (front: R= +3.2 L= +2.55 degrees)(Rear: R= -2.06 L= -1.41 degrees) now i said i enquired about a camber kit at another place and supply and fit was 600$+. he agreed was too expensive and he would check out his price, he came back about 5 mins and said there was nothing he could do as the kits only do the front tyres and about .5degrees. i asked him about all other magnas being lowered if they have these issues and he said yes? so anyone eles got as bad camber problems as me? im going thru tyres way to *** quick i only got two replaces like last year?!?! and dont eff all km's.

so yeah any ideas and whats the best option and so forth love to hear it

Your front camber is, to put it bluntly, ****ed. A variance of 3° is very unusual, and what's wierder is that it's positive camber - normally you get negative camber from lowering. I nearly wonder if something else is broken in your front end? I'm not mechanically minded so I won't make any guesses.

Whiteline do make a front camber kit, which forum sponsor megatron sells for $60 as part of a group buy. It does have a certain range to it - I can't remember what it is but if your camber is +3° the kit alone might not be enough.

If you do install an adjustable camber kit, and you enjoy your cornering, I'd suggest setting it at -1°. It will wear the insides a tad quicker, but you won't wear the outsides as badly, and it'll corner better too.

Your rear camber is pretty normal for lowered suspension - not the best for your tyres though. There's a thread about rear camber in the 3rd gen section on the front page.

I had the same problem but it affected the rears only.
I had King Lows when that happened, did the righty and did rotate and balances, yet that tyre shop I go to never picked it up, it was only when I drove to Perth last year that it was pointed out when I did an alignment before heading back. And I had to get 4 new ones or the family and I would have been another statistic.
While there I changed the rear springs to Dobinsons Lows, it sat about 1 1/2 inch above the tyre after that and actually reduced the rear camber I had.
My fronts on King Lows at the time were still within factory specs.
My tyre wear is now even front to rear.

well mabye i have something else wrong in the front end, or the print out they gave is faulty, but yes its pissing me off as im *** chewing thru tyres and i cant afford to keep replacing them. anyone got any ideas if there would be something up front that could cause the camber to also fk up? FYI im on lovells (blue spring) unsure of anything else as was done before i bought it. So, with what your saying grelise, if i was to change my spring set up it COULD change the camber? anyone confirm or deny this (if thats what your saying)?

The lower you go, the further your camber will be out. What grelise is saying that if you raise your car, your camber shouldn't be out as much. But what's the fun in that lol And like I said, it sounds like something else could be at play in the front end.

yeah well the guy said i could raise it and have no issues but i mean, surely there has to be a way to fix it...who the hell is gonna lower a car so that it chews thru tyres and not have a way to fix it? i dunno, seems like they are *** me around....

you can make your own up for the back, with longer bolts and washers. do a search mate, thats how i made mine

yeah well the guy said i could raise it and have no issues but i mean, surely there has to be a way to fix it...
Like I said, you can get camber kits front and rear... my camber was out, I installed front and rear kits, now I'm running -1° front (for a bit of extra cornering capability) and -1° rear (compared to about -2° before the kit).

If the front camber is way out, all you do is fit 2 camber kits on each side. This will double the amount of adjustment.
Very suspicious about such a high +ve value.
Do a check with a spirit level to see whether you actually have positive camber.

Rear camber fix is a simple as longer bolts for the top mounts and hardened washers.
Gerry.

With all this talk about lowering causing camber issues & fitting camber kits, does anyone know if a camber kit (off the shelf or 'home made') could/would work on the 380 rear suspension? Is the 380 rear suspension anything like a 3rd gen or is it completely different?

I ask because I have excessive rear negative camber issues with my 380, and I have to get it reset regularly to prevent abnormal tyre wear.

Edit - Blackstar, seeing as you have several 380 rear ends in various states of semi-destruction, and one or two AWD rear ends as well, maybe you can advise. Or is an AWD rear suspension completely different to a 3rd gen FWD?

KJ.

so can anyone link me to a thread or to a site with some camber kits or a DIY? would be good :D

Search and Oggy are your friends:
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82626

http://www.google.com.au/search?source=ig&hl=en&q=site:www.aussiemagna.com+camber+washers&meta= <-- see, it gets asked a lot. The solution is known, just not widespread enough.

Cheers!

when lowering a macpherson strut in a magna, the camber should not change much at all. mayby .5 to the negative direction. the rear on the other hand, being multi point, will camber between 1.5 - 2.5 to the negative, depending on how soft your bushes are, and how low your springs are.

my suggestion is to go out to your car, look at the front wheels and work out weather they are cambered negatively (v8 supercar spec) or positivley ( vb beatle spec) 3 degres positive camber is totally huge, and you wouldnt be able to go round a corner more than 30kmh.

my guess is that if you have that much on the front, you either have bent something, or there are several bung bushes slopping about down there.