I know theres a few 3.8 fitted to magna's of the past year or so.

So if any can share on how or what i need to change, what i can and cant keep from the exchange. My magna is manual and going off its the same block just bore and stroke changed but im sure but not 100% sure what i can do to fit one. Im very mechanically minded just needed to be pointed in the right direction as now ive only got one car and if i start i need it done asap.

So whats things i need to change off the 3.5 onto the 3.8?

Cheers Brett

Madmagna was doing one not more than four weeks ago - pretty sure the recipient is an owner of a TE series and is a member of this forum. Give it a day and I reckon they'll probably respond directly!

So whats things i need to change off the 3.5 onto the 3.8?



Everything but the long block needs to be swapped over. There also needs to be a modification to the sump (that nobody who has done seems to want to explain in detail). If there was an explanation on how to do the sump mod, I'd buy myself a 380 engine this weekend and DIY.

Would be nice if we could get some clear answers from the people who know how to do this...

Everything but the long block needs to be swapped over. There also needs to be a modification to the sump (that nobody who has done seems to want to explain in detail). If there was an explanation on how to do the sump mod, I'd buy myself a 380 engine this weekend and DIY.

Would be nice if we could get some clear answers from the people who know how to do this...

Yeah ive serached but still cant get it LOL also a lil nobby thing has to be grinded off or sumthing. So i keep the 380 block and heads, Fit magna stump, oil pick up?? plenium and distributor plus like A/c and P/s pumps.. Im on the right track. If some body knows more about this could they write up something to help people wanting to do this PLEASE :)

Yeah ive serached but still cant get it LOL also a lil nobby thing has to be grinded off or sumthing. So i keep the 380 block and heads, Fit magna stump, oil pick up?? plenium and distributor plus like A/c and P/s pumps.. Im on the right track. If some body knows more about this could they write up something to help people wanting to do this PLEASE :)

Yes and the magna rocker covers, 3.5L lower inlet manifold (as well as the plenum as you have said above) and fuel rail, also use ya magna exhaust manifolds or extractors if you have those

it has been done by Mal :) won't say who the amc person was who's car its in but it does work :)

Once you've done one you'll go **** that was quite easy. The sump mod is the only real part that requires ya to think a bit, the rest is just a straight swap part for part..

Yes and the magna rocker covers, 3.5L lower inlet manifold (as well as the plenum as you have said above) and fuel rail, also use ya magna exhaust manifolds or extractors if you have those

yeah thought so thanks :)

Yeah, has been done by Mal several times, only the AWD needs a mod to the block the FWD does not

There are mods to be done to the sump, you need to use your original sump from your Magna and do some subtle changes, aside from that, EVERYTHING else including timing belt lower pulley, throw plate, CAS, covers, harmonic balancer, all external brackets etc etc need to be changed over, so in short you are using the assembled block with heads and everything else off the 3.5

Ok sounds like a lot but if i can do a Manual conversion within 8 hrs on car stands i should be able to do this in my workshop at work withing a couple of days i guess

There are mods to be done to the sump, you need to use your original sump from your Magna and do some subtle changes,

what exactly are these subtle changes anyways??? Got any photos??

BUMP for justice... and for photo walkthrough and step by step instructions on 380 engine swap into 3rd Gen! Make one of those super duper sticky threads so it'll stand the test of time.

Bump!

Anybody care to elaborate on the 380 engine sump mod?

Mal said it up before use the 3.5L sump and if the engine is going into a AWD the block need a bit of a grind :)

Yes he said that and he said there would be a subtle change, meaning you have to further mod the sump. Nobody as of yet has explained what needs doing, that's why I bumped this thread...

Sorry guys, there is only so much I am willing to state and take pics of here, this is what I do for a living, will be stupid of me to start taking pics of the things that I have spent hours to work out just so others can then do it them selves

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I am willing to go so far but then there is a point where I will no longer be able to help for this exact reason

Cheers Mal

Sorry guys, there is only so much I am willing to state and take pics of here, this is what I do for a living, will be stupid of me to start taking pics of the things that I have spent hours to work out just so others can then do it them selves

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I am willing to go so far but then there is a point where I will no longer be able to help for this exact reason

I'm not asking for pictures, but I would like to know exactly what needs to be done to the sump. Holding out on this kind of info has the potential for somebody unexperienced in the area destroying an engine all because its apparently an illusive "trade secret".

If its such a small modification why not share? over 90% of people on this forum are not game enough to do an engine swap themselves anyway.

If someone is inexperienced then they shouldn't be doing this modification anyway.

If Mal was able to figure out how to do the modification to the sump in a few hours, then I'm sure if someone took the time to work it out properly they would be able to figure it out too.

For most of us here, Magna's and the modifications that we do to them are our hobby, we do it for fun. But it is Mal's career and if he doesn't want to share something he spent ages figuring out himself, he shouldn't be shamed for not doing that. We all know that out of every single poster on the forums he is the one who gives the best, most accurate and realistic advice and if he feels the need to withhold this one piece of information when he gives out so much more, that's his choice.

Goodluck to anyone who does the 380 engine into a 3rd Gen conversion, you have my best wishes.

I hope the people who do this modification do have a mechanical apptitude. But what if somebody is stuck on one small bit, don't you think it's a bit cold for somebody (who's also a supposed magna enthusiast) to withhold information to complete a relatively simple job?

If these small mod 'trade secrets' are such a threat to livelihood, I don't see why brake and clutch bleeds, oil changes and spark plug replacements should be displayed on the forum...

I mean, if people learn how to do simple stuff, they'll figure out how to do timing belt changes, 6g75 and manual conversions meaning mechanics everywhere will go broke.

Sorry guys, there is only so much I am willing to state and take pics of here, this is what I do for a living, will be stupid of me to start taking pics of the things that I have spent hours to work out just so others can then do it them selves

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I am willing to go so far but then there is a point where I will no longer be able to help for this exact reason

I can understand why you feel this way, but in my experience, this attitude is dead wrong. And you're right on one part - it always seems to be folks in a trade industry who feel this way. I have no idea why this is so, but the biggest problem for any tradesperson is that unless proven otherwise, your potential customers think you're an asshole. Sparkies, plumbers, mechanics - people think you're a prick, because a lot of them are.

There's an easy way to fix this: don't be like other tradies. My brother in law is a landscape gardener and has fallen itno the exact same trap as other tradies. Not calling customers back, rocking up late, mismanaging the final bill, and other basic failures. Now, if he would just change that all his customers would say to their friends "he's not like other tradies" and he would *get more business*.

Same thing goes for this argument we're discussing here. The potential (and in my opinion, unlikely) losses from posting about how to do stuff here or on Youtube does not detract from your business, but rather *adds* to your business. There's reasons for this:

1. It proves to your customers that you know what you're doing and aren't full of shit like other tradies
2. *Most* of your customers don't want to do the work anyway even if they have some mechanical aptitude
3. Your customers see your sincerity, and combining this with point 1 and 2 provides them some proof that you won't rip them off

It's essentially advertising, without it being advertising (therefore it's the best kind of advertising). And as any business owner would know, advertising absolutely works.

I hope the people who do this modification do have a mechanical apptitude. But what if somebody is stuck on one small bit, don't you think it's a bit cold for somebody (who's also a supposed magna enthusiast) to withhold information to complete a relatively simple job?

If these small mod 'trade secrets' are such a threat to livelihood, I don't see why brake and clutch bleeds, oil changes and spark plug replacements should be displayed on the forum...

I mean, if people learn how to do simple stuff, they'll figure out how to do timing belt changes, 6g75 and manual conversions meaning mechanics everywhere will go broke.

seriously dude, im with mal on this one.
if someone with a late model VW fitted with CAN bus lighting systems asks me how to hook them up to work with the high beam, then i wont tell em how to do it, but i will make it happen ... thats my knowledge, and i figured it out all by myself, and to date i know of no one else how can do this.

if you wanna work it out get a 6g74 and a 6g75 and work it out for yourself, or pay the forum sponsor to do the mod for you.

seriously dude, im with mal on this one.
if someone with a late model VW fitted with CAN bus lighting systems asks me how to hook them up to work with the high beam, then i wont tell em how to do it, but i will make it happen ... thats my knowledge, and i figured it out all by myself, and to date i know of no one else how can do this.

if you wanna work it out get a 6g74 and a 6g75 and work it out for yourself, or pay the forum sponsor to do the mod for you.

Why should information be used as a bargaining chip or commodity amongst enthusiasts?

That's what happens when commercial interests enters a forum. One of the benefits of a forum like this is that we share ideas and how-to's. Saying that you won't tell because it might cost you money is against the spirit of an open forum. But whatever, something for the OP to find out if he ever drops a 380 motor in.

The knowledge of a modification that was established through R&D of a business is classified as intellectual property and Mal is therefore under no obligation to disclose these details. He is free to disclose as much information as he desires. The fact that he has listed one of the modifications to be a "sump mod" in my opinion is a generous gesture on his part.
This is purely just my ethical opinion, and you do not have to agree with it.

I'm not asking for pictures, but I would like to know exactly what needs to be done to the sump. Holding out on this kind of info has the potential for somebody unexperienced in the area destroying an engine all because its apparently an illusive "trade secret".

If its such a small modification why not share? over 90% of people on this forum are not game enough to do an engine swap themselves anyway.

And these people are the ones who should pay to get it done, lets face it Dean, I give away so damn much here on these forums, there are some things I am not willing to go into, if I do then I may as well just close the door and quit, giving info out does not put food on my table

If someone does not know how to do the complete conversion, then that is why people like I am here, people who have put the countless hours into not only working out how to do something but working out the proper, reliable and safe way to do something


That's what happens when commercial interests enters a forum. One of the benefits of a forum like this is that we share ideas and how-to's. Saying that you won't tell because it might cost you money is against the spirit of an open forum. But whatever, something for the OP to find out if he ever drops a 380 motor in.

In short, get your hand off it mate, if you want to pay my wages then I will share anything you want me to, or better still, buy the information from me, I will make a tech sheet, will sell the sheet for a few years wages as I know that once I sell it you will distribute it around

Thanks to those who support the fact that I have the right not to share everything I do with everyone here as I take the time, money and use my skill to work these things out. To those who think otherwise, well I say bad luck. As for the comparision to a tradie who rocks up late, over charges etc, i take offense at that comparison, is nothing like what this situation is

In short, yes there are mods to be done, if you can not do them, dont be such a tight ass and simply spend a few hundred $$ to get the job done properly. People here on AMC wonder why I rant and carry on, is it any bloody wonder when stupid attitudes like this are brought up.

This is a community where as I said I share a lot, if you guys want to I can just STFU and not bother trying to help anyone, then lets see how long the forum lasts then with some here who will pretty much tell you to replace your oil with super glue because they read it on a google page


Why should information be used as a bargaining chip or commodity amongst enthusiasts?

As stated, try it yourself and if you can not work it out, pay someone, dont expect every thing to come to you on a platter mate, now and again you need to actually earn and pay for something, even I pay for various services to be done that I dont or can not do, this is why we all have different specialties etc in life, not so we can spend hours in working something out and then starve because we are apparently meant to give this info to others for nothing

I'm with mal on this one

Though I am more than happy to help anyone in going through the 6A13TT conversion once I work it out myself and do a run down and dont use dodgey mechanics who leave your car a rolling chassis...

Anyhow there are other members who have already done this so it would be great if you all didnt pile on mal about this secret info... have a look and a guess your self and post up your own pics of what you think it is....

Or....

Why don't you all just contact SNOW who has already done the 380 conversion...... end of problem.....

AFAIK its somehting like the oil pick up and sump from the 3.5 needs to go on the car and modify the outside a little bit or something like run the 3.8 oil pick up in the 3.5 sump which needs to be modified, its not a hard process from my previous speakings with people...

Nothing wrong with just HAVING A GO, im doing my 6A13TT conversion completely blind with no engineering experience or anything, so I think someone should just do the conversion and figure it out yourself?

As stated, try it yourself and if you can not work it out, pay someone, dont expect every thing to come to you on a platter mate, now and again you need to actually earn and pay for something, even I pay for various services to be done that I dont or can not do, this is why we all have different specialties etc in life, not so we can spend hours in working something out and then starve because we are apparently meant to give this info to others for nothing

"Isn't it funny, how people forget that the reason they know something is because they had to ask someone else in the first place and then they like own it"

I've just received this (and more) from a certain person who also knows how to do this mod. What so you are allowed to receive information off another enthusiast and pretend that you own it and it is your livelihood? And there's no way you'll lose 2 years worth of work because the information is out there for a certain modification.

"Isn't it funny, how people forget that the reason they know something is because they had to ask someone else in the first place and then they like own it"

I've just received this (and more) from a certain person who also knows how to do this mod. What so you are allowed to receive information off another enthusiast and pretend that you own it and it is your livelihood? And there's no way you'll lose 2 years worth of work because the information is out there for a certain modification.

Ummm, received what???? The info about some of the conversion itself was told to me by DaveTJ, things like the manifold to use, he stated that he modified the timing cover where I change it, he made some suggestions on other parts, most of which I have also advised in this and other threads. The sump stuff, I have found a slightly different and what is in my opinion a a better way to mod the sump so why should I spill all?, that is right, some of the other parts were worked out by me buddy so before you spout crap you clearly know f all about, STFU and get your bloody facts right

Yes, we all ask someone for some info, we then get that info and grow on that info and so on and so forth. That is how life and development works. Try going to any car maker and demand info on how to do this and that they are working on, they will just laugh at you

If you want to believe that I should spread everything I know then screw yourself mate, I will tell what I need to tell, i help around here more than most put together as I have for the last 7 years but what ****s me off the most is when pricks come along like I am the asshole because I dont want to tell all......

You know what, next time you need help, go somewhere else as I will not be willing to assist, seems as I am a tight ass, I can now show how tight I am TJTime

And these people are the ones who should pay to get it done, lets face it Dean, I give away so damn much here on these forums, there are some things I am not willing to go into, if I do then I may as well just close the door and quit, giving info out does not put food on my table

Mal, in normal circumstances this is usually something I would be happy to do. But there are some geographical issues here. Afterall, this is not the Victorian Magna Club - This is the Australian Magna Club. If I was to example to source an engine locally, and have the capacity to do the whole 3.8 conversion (minus the sump mod) myself - Sending this to/from Victoria and waiting ~2 more weeks with the possibility of it being damaged in transit for what is apparently a "simple mod" is simply not feasible. Hence where the argument in this whole thread is coming from. Hell take the OP in Tasmania for example... Not just crossing a state line there, crossing a damn ocean!

Dean, I have done one for a QLD member, distance was not an issue, he sent me his old motor AFTER I sent him his new completed motor as remember I have enough stock here to complete the 380 motor and send it up, he then takes out his old motor, puts in the 380 motor and his off and running. So not real big issue

I know people expect us to tell all, it happens all the time, happens with other members here who do some R&D, if they talk to me about what they have done, I will not spread this around the forums for anyone. If they choose to then great, but I will not tell all about others hard work. This does not mean I am making myself look like I developed it, it simply means that I will not spread this around.

Quite frankly if other take offense at this then they can grow up, is pretty much as easy as that. Go to any business who make such developments no matter how small they are and see what you can get out of them, will not be much I think

You wouldn't go to kfc asking for their secret herbs and spices. So why should this be any different. He's got a business to run and a family to provide for. Just think about that.

I have watched this thread deteriorate to a bitch session for too long.

Picking at Mal or any other person who chooses to exercise their right to protect their livelihood wont be tolerated.

If someone has spent time and money developing something they would be commiting financial suicide to disclose that to one and all.

We all share common knowledge and help each other but there is a line where a persons livelihood comes into play.

I have personnaly developed a number of inovations in the fields of mechanical and electronics engineering and NOBODY gets information for free.

Thats how I retired at 39 totally self sufficient.

And you expect someone to just give up everything for free because its a forum?

People ......... wake up and smell the coffee ........................ life is like that.

Mal .................... calm down and put a sock in it, the rest of you can do the bloody same.

Anyone else starts trying to start an argument or continue this one will get a holiday.

Carry on and play nice.

Ye Oldy Farty

Just saw Ol' Fart's post, which was similar to mine but had the weight of Moderator behind it.

So can i buy a 380 engine already modified to fit the magna off you mal :)

I'm in Townsville, North QLD. Distance was no issue when Mal helped me with my conversion. The fact that I'd rather pay someone who lives on the other end of the country then someone local to help with the conversion should speak leagues about him and how much I value his experience.

I'm not rich and I'm only an apprentice, so you can only imagine the money (or little of it) I have to throw around, in saying that postage of an engine is not all that expensive.

So can i buy a 380 engine already modified to fit the magna off you mal :)

Why Bother? I find the best way to do things, Is find out from someone who's already done it. Do what 86_Elite suggested and contact Snow. It's been done many times before not just by this "sponsor" so I wouldn't just hand over my hard earned as quick as that. I mean, your not incompetent when it comes to mechanical's mightymag so modifying a sump would be a piece of piss for you. Give it a shot I say, then when you figure it out, Write up a DIY so everyone on this forum know's how to do this mod, which is fine, as you did the work yourself and it's your intellectual property.

True now to find a 380. Comon u tourist rent those 380's in tassie and crash em :)

Haha mightymag and Tuffy, that's the spirit!

Why pay somebody to do it when you can diy, know how it all works and have the ability to fix it if it does have an issue... You wouldn't wanna go to victoria for a mod and come back to find something like driveshaft oil seals are gone or the clutch adjustment for the pedal hasn't been done or anything else like that...

Ive built my car not bought it and i guess i can still build it :) the only thing i havent done myself was the pedders suspension and muffler everything else ive done, Manual conversion but like i said i only now have one car and need it done within a week not 6 to 24 months if i was doing it thats all

I must have missed something important here . . . . .

Seems like a lot of work to get another 300 cc over the 3.5L engine, plus a good 380 engine would be expensive and hard to find. Why not recon your engine if it is worn out or find another low km 3.5? With the 3.5 bits you need to swap over you negate any advantages of having a later engine design.

Is it just a matter of being able to say "I did that, so I must be Kool?"

Yeah 300 more cc, more low down torque and more up high power.

For a start i am cool . No my 3.5 v6 is not worn out at all still pulls hard as no knocks no rattles......... And cause i want a 3.8. Or if i can find a blueprinted 3.5 ralliart motor in which i wont cause there was only 2 ever produced and one is in a shitty te here in hobart and no they wont sell me the motor GRRRRRR so i figure a 380 engine who be best for wat i want

I must have missed something important here . . . . .

Seems like a lot of work to get another 300 cc over the 3.5L engine, plus a good 380 engine would be expensive and hard to find. Why not recon your engine if it is worn out or find another low km 3.5? With the 3.5 bits you need to swap over you negate any advantages of having a later engine design.

Is it just a matter of being able to say "I did that, so I must be Kool?"

No the extra 300 cc is minor compared to the best part, being the heads, then cams & comp. ratio. It responds very well to up-graded cams if you want more. Its a big block Ralliart with a very nice head job really.

"Isn't it funny, how people forget that the reason they know something is because they had to ask someone else in the first place and then they like own it"

I've just received this (and more) from a certain person who also knows how to do this mod. What so you are allowed to receive information off another enthusiast and pretend that you own it and it is your livelihood? And there's no way you'll lose 2 years worth of work because the information is out there for a certain modification.

Hahaha, what gold! Mal is basically the benchmark of knowledge on these forums and you believe that he had to run off and find out from someone else? No, knowing Mal he would check it out for himself before he would believe a word that someone had told him.

Mal is in a bit of a hard spot here because he actually runs a business based on the cars that we work on on our weekends. I know exactly how he feels because in the same way, I'm asked day in day out by friends to look at their damn computers in my own personal time! I'm sure if you all thought about it, you could relate.

I think you guys should just shut up and sit down, and be happy with what you've got. If the mod is serious about doing this conversion, he will come up with the problem and resolve it. Otherwise he will pay someone that has the knowledge there to do it properly.

/End rant

Haha mightymag and Tuffy, that's the spirit!

Why pay somebody to do it when you can diy, know how it all works and have the ability to fix it if it does have an issue... You wouldn't wanna go to victoria for a mod and come back to find something like driveshaft oil seals are gone or the clutch adjustment for the pedal hasn't been done or anything else like that...

Exactly right, woudl not want drive shaft oil seals to leak on a box that was provided by a customer along with a box load of other bits missing, oh wait a second, when the 380 engine goes into the car, you are using the same box so do you care to explain how a drive shaft seal has any bearing on fitment of an engine, or for that matter the adjustment of a brand new HD clutch which is going to need to be adjusted post instal and bed in???? Now I am really confused

As for your comments Paul, some people do prefer to pay to get things done when they are not sure about what they are doing, just like you did when you had not yet done a timing belt or when you got the guys to get your engine running etc. Some are not comofortable doing particular jobs and prefer to send it somewhere to get it done properly? Just like I will not try and fix my PC, will send it off to be repaired as I am sure with persistance I could do it but why spend all that time doing that when I can send it off, have it back next day fixed

What craps me off about this rubbish, when TJTime wanted his manual conversion done, he was all too happy to pay me to do it while I was in NSW, then did not even have the balls to PM me to state that he had decided to do it himself which made a difference as to if the trip up was worth it, lucky Dean told me so I did not drive 1000k's for nothing, still however when he could not get the CC sorted even though there was nothing in it for me, to save him from cutting god knows what wire etc, i showed him how to do this and it was fixed.

How much do I need to spill out to these forums before enough is enough?

How much do I need to spill out to these forums before enough is enough?

Fair enough. I think an apology is in order: I'm sorry if I was too pushy and aggressive in order to get the information we wanted. I should not have pursued the issue any further after you stated that you felt that your livelihood was at risk. At the end of the day, its your choice to provide any information to anybody, you are not a government official that we can harass when we don't hear what we want (which feels that way because you are a mod). There is a group of AMCers who have not posted on this thread who strongly believe information such as the sump mod should not be hoarded in our community. As I've said before, its completely your choice to share information and I accept this fact. You are a shipping container full of knowledge and are an important resource to AMC. We are all on the forum on our own spare time and I'd like to thank you for the time and knowledge you have spent to teach me the things I have been stuck on.

I decided to DIY my manual conversion because people have told me stories of what had happened to their cars after they got their car converted. I was terrified that something go wrong after the conversion back up in Sydney, something I would have no idea on how to fix or diagnose because I didn't know where every bolt sat and how everything worked. I should have told you earlier about me DIYing it.

As a magna enthusiast, I'd happily share my spare time and all of my knowledge amongst the community in order to help it grow. The various times I've done or aided people do brake and clutch bleeds, manual gearboxes (lol), springs and struts, finding exposed wiring and doing the numerous brake upgrades is a testament to how much I care about the magna community. Btw, I hope the people that own the cars I've worked on have learnt a thing or two so they can pass their knowledge on to somebody else...

The communication of ideas and knowledge is an essential pillar of any community (IRL or online) and I will always be willing to help out whoever I can to people who are willing to listen and learn.

I must have missed something important here . . . . .

Seems like a lot of work to get another 300 cc over the 3.5L engine, plus a good 380 engine would be expensive and hard to find. Why not recon your engine if it is worn out or find another low km 3.5? With the 3.5 bits you need to swap over you negate any advantages of having a later engine design.

Is it just a matter of being able to say "I did that, so I must be Kool?"

Heh, could have said the same thing about you spraying a green car red, and bogging the shit out of it.

Reason - 3.5L will make 163kw at the flywheel in Sports/VRX form, 3.8L will make 175 with stock cams, or over 200 with aftermarket with more torque. A cammed 6G75 will make more power then a Sprintex 6G74.

I first met Mal in person at MMX in Adelaide and I can tell you for a fact he spent a huge chunk of his HOLIDAY TIME fixing other people's cars, answering questions and giving people advice/information about all sorts of stuff.

Meanwhile I spent a huge chunk of my holiday time 'slamming down beers' and relaxing, and Mal could have done the same thing, but to be honest if he did a some people would have had a lot less fun, and a lot of people would know less than they do today.

There is only so much in life that is free, and I agree everyone should have the right to choose what information they do or do not disclose!

In terms of my time on this forum I've got more free info and advice from Mal's posts/threads/PM's than I've got from any other user.


Cheers Mal!
Your time and help is appreciated by many I'm sure.

Fair enough. I think an apology is in order: I'm sorry if I was too pushy and aggressive in order to get the information we wanted. I should not have pursued the issue any further after you stated that you felt that your livelihood was at risk. At the end of the day, its your choice to provide any information to anybody, you are not a government official that we can harass when we don't hear what we want (which feels that way because you are a mod). There is a group of AMCers who have not posted on this thread who strongly believe information such as the sump mod should not be hoarded in our community. As I've said before, its completely your choice to share information and I accept this fact. You are a shipping container full of knowledge and are an important resource to AMC. We are all on the forum on our own spare time and I'd like to thank you for the time and knowledge you have spent to teach me the things I have been stuck on.

I decided to DIY my manual conversion because people have told me stories of what had happened to their cars after they got their car converted. I was terrified that something go wrong after the conversion back up in Sydney, something I would have no idea on how to fix or diagnose because I didn't know where every bolt sat and how everything worked. I should have told you earlier about me DIYing it.

As a magna enthusiast, I'd happily share my spare time and all of my knowledge amongst the community in order to help it grow. The various times I've done or aided people do brake and clutch bleeds, manual gearboxes (lol), springs and struts, finding exposed wiring and doing the numerous brake upgrades is a testament to how much I care about the magna community. Btw, I hope the people that own the cars I've worked on have learnt a thing or two so they can pass their knowledge on to somebody else...

The communication of ideas and knowledge is an essential pillar of any community (IRL or online) and I will always be willing to help out whoever I can to people who are willing to listen and learn.

Thank you and accepted and also returned

Please however when people start to say about "problems" go to the person doing the job and get some facts

Dave, his drive shaft seals did leak, this was from a conversion provided by Dave to myself to install, this "kit" with it's "near new" exedy clutch which was a worn out std 225mm clutch and various little parts missing should be an answer in itself. Added to that, Pete was there and his GF wanted to hit the road so our road test was a quick blap down the road and nothing more. If I had been able to drive the car properly then check under it after, the leak may have been found, add to this, as I was not full time then, I would not have had the spare new seals anyway to install so regardless of the seals leaking I would not have been able to do anything about them. Had I supplied the kit, new seals woudl have already been installed in this box

Now the clutch adjustment, the Exedy HD clutches have been known to take some time to settle in, it is a simple adjustment done after a few days driving that takes about 30 seconds to do. When you use a second hand unit, the clutch will generally be fine, with Deans car, his like others with the HD clutch took a few days to settle in, Presti had the same thing only he is down here so popped in a few days later and I simply spend 30 seconds to back it off a little.

So all in all, no real big issues, and the first issue had nothing to do with the install at all, it was all to do with shonky parts that Dave purchased from another member on AMC and even in saying that, these parts unless the member selling them knew better woudl have been sold in good faith anyway

Hopefully this will clear up a few things, and when you look at the sheer amount of conversion I have done, I think the track record is pretty damn good lol

Brett, thanks for the support mate, I did spend a lot of time playing with cars, I did not charge anyone either as it was in the spirit of the meet, I did this on previous meets as well. During Magna Meet, I am not Mits Fix, I am just me helping out mates who have issues while on the meet. Instead of leaving when I was meant to, I spent hours getting parts for Jason and getting him up and going again thus having to drive through the night to get home but again was in the spirit of it all. I was also not the only one who assisted here, Ego used his Nugget mobile several times, Neo GAVE a driveshaft to Jason and even took it out of one of his cars for a total stranger so the spirit of the club still stands sometimes thankfully

Now this is done, lets please move on.....

Heh, could have said the same thing about you spraying a green car red, and bogging the shit out of it.

Yep, I'm kool!

OR perhaps I was just trying to get a reasonable low Km 3rd gen on the cheap? lol I had been looking for a while, but the good ones were out of my price range - obviously some members here have access to more ready cash than I do - this one was too good to miss.

BUT as the Man said, let us move on . . . . . . .

I'll decide who to infract later.
When are you children going to grow up
Feel free to have a go yourselves and when you stuff it up ...... feel free to cough up for the repairs

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Open another and you getted banned ...... simple