ok not happy with pioneer , i knew they werent the be all and end all of car audio but thought they were reliable!

amp running fronts blew a channel- got replaced under warrantee

speakers were f***** replaced under warrantee

face plates lights dont always come on - have to get it sent to pioneer so they can inspect it- means atleast 2 weeks without doof doof for me

lastly... today the amp that i got replaced blew a channel again!:shock:


NOT HAPPY!

I am a little frustrated too. I bought a Pioneer system years ago and was getting heaps of dust getting in the front display, very annoying at the time....
Now I have my new unit with the flip down front thing I'm thinking to myself "good, no dust this time!"...wrong, there is dust in there already and I have only had the thing for a few weeks. :rant:

Strange, I've had my Pioneer deck (DEH-P4350) for yonks and never had a problem with it.

Pioneer's gear has gone a little downhill as of late - I had a DEH-323 that lasted about 7 years, and it was sold with the car - their speakers have always been a little on the dubious side...

Had a look at Pioneer for the next deck, decided against it and went Alpine - good headunits, good speakers, so-so amps (not enough output power - they used to be Jap amps, but now they are made in Indonesia IIRC), and ordinary subwoofers - however, they are not the downright awful like sony subs... but that is another thing...

Cheers
Heath Young

hmmm i wonder why i tell people to buy boston, hertz, audison, rainbow etc?? Pioneer still make good headunits.. but thats about it for what the want for their gear. :D

_stonesour_ write a dirty letter to pioneer australia and tell them the problems you are having ! you never no you might get a new head unit ...just me 2 cents....

hehe sweet good idea i might just do that !

as of this friday im music-less in my car as my face plate is being sent away for repairs:rant:

eeep :S touch wood i have pioneer splits. i have never really been a fan of the brand name stuff like them, imho

Pioneer decks are still up there with some of the best but I have never been a fan of it's other products. :(

iv had probs with a set of pioneer 6x9's 3 way, 330 watt, thay cranked until the cracked, now they rattle!! meh ill get some alpin eones soon.

Pioneer's quality has deffinately gone down hill in recent times, especially their head-units and speakers and from what you are saying their amps aren't that flash either!

I know of atleast one a guy who installs car audio equipment for a living and cringes every time he hears someone say that they have a pioneer deck, usually because the next few words that come out of the person's mouth is, Question: Why does it make that awful noise.

Answer: Because it is Pioneer!!! :rant:

usually because the next few words that come out of the person's mouth is, Question: Why does it make that awful noise.

Answer: Because it is Pioneer!!! :rant:
What aweful noise?

Also, there was a recall on Pioneer amps a few months ago... Not sure of the model, but you may wish to check the Pioneer website..

it was the 500w amp
was prone to catching fire

check the website

ive always had pioneer and never had anything bad to say :confused:

if anyone has heard my stereo as it is now then i think they would agree that it sounds ***in schweeet! although it is all the top of the range gear. ive never used pioneer amps though, cos i have heard bad things about their amps. :cry:

That Pioneer recall was the biggest non-event I have ever witnessed. They were recalled because they got very hot and Pioneer was worried they might catch fire.

Now can anyone tell me of an amplifier that doesn't heat up when working hard? The sheer concept of the semi-inefficient class A/B amplifier dictates they will heat up somewhat...