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Volshaneo
04-03-2011, 01:05 PM
Recently on a private road I did a few run throughs to time 0-100 figures in my 380. Best time was 7 seconds flat, all ranged from 7 to 7.1 seconds. Mine is a series 3 SX with larger airbox intake and K&N filter mods performed.
Anyone else timed their 0-100? If so, what were your results?
Braedz
04-03-2011, 01:21 PM
My un-official time is aroun 6.8-6.9. I got the galant intake, berklee muffler, lowered suspension with some decent tyres.
witewalzs
04-03-2011, 01:37 PM
Yep, same times here with the same mods.About 6 tenths faster than stock from memory.
My un-official time is aroun 6.8-6.9. I got the galant intake, berklee muffler, lowered suspension with some decent tyres.
witewalzs
04-03-2011, 01:38 PM
Yours auto or manual?
Recently on a private road I did a few run throughs to time 0-100 figures in my 380. Best time was 7 seconds flat, all ranged from 7 to 7.1 seconds. Mine is a series 3 SX with larger airbox intake and K&N filter mods performed.
Anyone else timed their 0-100? If so, what were your results?
Stinky_Pinky
04-03-2011, 01:46 PM
I'm sure I get the same out of my ancient TE (7 seconds) which is completely stock. But I will veryify this on the way home tonight :)
ralliart
04-03-2011, 01:47 PM
The official time for a VRX is 7.4 so i highly doubt you could achieve under 7 even with intake
Disciple
04-03-2011, 01:48 PM
I'm sure I get the same out of my ancient TE (7 seconds) which is completely stock. But I will veryify this on the way home tonight :)
Keep in mind, assuming your TE is manual, that it's about 250kgs lighter than a 380.
Mikey380sx
04-03-2011, 02:09 PM
I think these close to 7 seconds and under runs are a bit optimistic. Surely a muffler and the 90mm intake cannot make that much of a difference?
Anybody have a G-tec or whatever they are called to get some proper times?
The big difference will be tyres and suspension for 0-100 times.
Stinky_Pinky
04-03-2011, 02:30 PM
Robbed I say! 10 sec consistently, although it was raining. So maybe 9 on a good day.
witewalzs
04-03-2011, 02:57 PM
Yep, helps for sure as you would expect.Was doing 7.2-.3's with intake mods then fitted muffler,wheels ,tyres (already lowered) and times dropped another 3-4 tenths. Would like to know what an LSD would drop the times to?
The big difference will be tyres and suspension for 0-100 times.
HaydenVRX
04-03-2011, 03:13 PM
I don't think 7 seconds is too outlandish.... i posted about 8 in a stock tj vr-x that had 4 people in it.
HaydenVRX
04-03-2011, 03:14 PM
and an lsd won't drop times unless you have trouble with 1 wheel spinning.. but that is often the case so yes it will improve times hahaha.
and an lsd won't drop times unless you have trouble with 1 wheel spinning.. but that is often the case so yes it will improve times hahaha.
LSD will drop times on a MT equiped car as you can launch harder without wheelspin.
380matey
04-03-2011, 05:22 PM
Cmon Fooz, Blackie and all you supercharged crew, what are you guys getting??? LSD and all are you 5's. I guess the other thing is to make sure that your tyres aren't out of spec and you are reading under what you are doing (and getting there quicker lol). Me personally, I haven't got up to 100 kph yet (Pinocchio oh Pinocchio, is that you lol)
Foozrcool
04-03-2011, 05:24 PM
Cmon Fooz, Blackie and all you supercharged crew, what are you guys getting??? LSD and all are you 5's. I guess the other thing is to make sure that your tyres aren't out of spec and you are reading under what you are doing (and getting there quicker lol). Me personally, I haven't got up to 100 kph yet (Pinocchio oh Pinocchio, is that you lol)
lol dunno but definitely quicker with the LSD. You come up with your stop watch & time me lol
Warm 6G75 AWD + passenger (Type 40)......6.14 sec. using a G-tec device.
Will have a little more power soon, so will try again soon & without the "ballast".
Mecha-wombat
04-03-2011, 05:50 PM
warm 6g75 awd + passenger (type 40)......6.14 sec. Using a g-tec device.
Will have a little more power soon, so will try again soon & without the "ballast".
noice!!!!!!!
TreeAdeyMan
04-03-2011, 06:01 PM
Yeah, but this is a 380 thread not a 6G75 thread!
AWD Magna with a 6G75 transplant doesn't count, at least not until Blackstar gets his AWD 380 up & running.
And no, I haven't timed my slightly warmed manual 380 from 0 to 100, my guestimate is 6.5 secs if I can get a good launch. And that's a very big if without an LSD!
Also need to take into account the weight difference between an AWD Magna and a 380.
Not a lot in it at a guess, an auto 380 VRX (common model on these forums) probably weighs about 80kg more than an AWD Magna, so one passenger worth.
Anyone have the weight figures?
380 SX
04-03-2011, 06:28 PM
Warm 6G75 AWD + passenger (Type 40)......6.14 sec. using a G-tec device.
Will have a little more power soon, so will try again soon & without the "ballast".
thats not bad at all and it would be awesome around the track.
really for the weight of cars these days they put out some pretty good times. I wouldnt worry to much about the 0-100 time, and if the falcon or commodore will beat you in a straight line because at the end of the day when it gets to the corner it will go around it unlike other vehicles.
TW LS AWD = 1663kG
*hey Tree man, guessing doesnt count either! lol
Foozrcool
04-03-2011, 06:47 PM
I think the VRX are around 1680kg so yeah not a lot in it besides the AWD!!! lol
TreeAdeyMan
04-03-2011, 07:03 PM
OK, per the workshop manual, 380 auto weights are base model 1,665kg, VRX 1,670kg, SX/LX 1,660kg, GT 1,700kg
Beats me how the SX/LX weighs 5kg less that the base model.
For a manual subtract 40kg.
So my base model manual should weigh 1,625kg which is 38kg less than Al's fat pig of an AWD.
So if he can get 6.14 seconds for 0 - 100 I should be able to get into the fives, being manual and all!
(Kicks bed post & wakes up from dream)
Foozrcool
04-03-2011, 07:06 PM
So (KJ/TreeWTF sort of a name is that? lol ) when did you install the AWD rubber bands on your 380?
OK, per the workshop manual, 380 auto weights are base model 1,665kg, VRX 1,670kg, SX/LX 1,660kg, GT 1,700kg
Beats me how the SX/LX weighs 5kg less that the base model.
For a manual subtract 40kg.
So my base model manual should weigh 1,625kg which is 38kg less than Al's fat pig of an AWD.
So if he can get 6.14 seconds for 0 - 100 I should be able to get into the fives, being manual and all!
(Kicks bed post & wakes up from dream)
Time for a LSD instead of your single legger folly.
She's not a "fat pig" she's just big boned! :happy:
Knotched
04-03-2011, 07:18 PM
the falcon or commodore will beat you in a straight line because at the end of the day when it gets to the corner it will go around it unlike other vehicles.
The new falcon goes round corners very well.
I've had a few cornering duels and they are quite nimble for a big car. Usually they back off sooner because the driver isn't as committed and probably because I know how controllable mine is past the limit.
Can't compare with the SV6 etc because so far no one has been able willing drive them fast around a corner.
380 SX
04-03-2011, 07:27 PM
The new falcon goes round corners very well.
I've had a few cornering duels and they are quite nimble for a big car. Usually they back off sooner because the driver isn't as committed and probably because I know how controllable mine is past the limit.
Can't compare with the SV6 etc because so far no one has been able willing drive them fast around a corner.
yeh was wondering what the new Falcon was like? sorry i should have mentioned was comparing the same year models of the time. I've driven BA's and BF's and they just felt like they didnt really want to turn like the 380 did.
380 SX
04-03-2011, 07:29 PM
LSD with supercharger id expect into the 5's Mr TreeAdeyMan lol
May as well let you guys know I just completed my first quarter mile run tonight in the XRT. I'm still BUZZING!
11.199 @ 118.97 mph :D 4.1 - 4.2 0-100
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82560&page=9
SORRY, i didn't check the thread properly and didn't realize it was 380's only... my mistake... i just saw 0-100 figures and thought I'd post it up.
TreeAdeyMan
04-03-2011, 07:38 PM
So (KJ/TreeWTF sort of a name is that? lol ) when did you install the AWD rubber bands on your 380?
C'mon, shouldn't take Einstein to figure out what TreeAdeyMan is all about.
Hint: small block Chevy V8 & transmission.
And no rubber bands (yet).
TreeAdeyMan
04-03-2011, 07:43 PM
May as well let you guys know I just completed my first quarter mile run tonight. I'm still BUZZING!
11.199 @ 110 mph :D
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82560&page=9
Faaaaark!
No 380 is going to get close to that time!
Mecha-wombat
04-03-2011, 07:57 PM
yeah but he has some insane boost on that I6 Barra and then some
Red Valdez
04-03-2011, 08:41 PM
This thread is for discussion of 0-100 times of Mitsu 380s. I can understand discussing zero's AWD but discussion of entirely different makes and models of cars hasn't really served any purpose so far. Any further off-topic posting will be removed.
Blackstar
04-03-2011, 09:28 PM
My TMR380 run has been on youtube for over a year
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Foozrcool
04-03-2011, 09:40 PM
How come you haven't put my RPW defaced diff in the TMR yet? lol
Re dieing off at 100km/hr I reckon mine pulls stronger in the higher gears. 3rd 4th & 5th feels best for me ;)
Do you have a 1/4 mile time Blackstar?
380 SX
05-03-2011, 07:26 AM
Faaaaark!
No 380 is going to get close to that time!
dont speak to soon. Keen to see what Blackstars Supercharged AWD will do.
Blackstar
05-03-2011, 08:13 AM
Do you have a 1/4 mile time Blackstar?
I don't do 1/4 mile drags...good way to break something IMO
Tubby_Taylor
05-03-2011, 08:18 AM
My Tj vrx on a private road... not being able 2 be picky it was a slight decent... 1 passenger, lowered car average tyres dry suraface, i did a 6.6 (thats when it was running at its prime) not so sure its capable of that anymore, i did reverse the run and did it up hill i did 6.9 uphill...
beleive or not but thats what my stopwatch (controlled by the passenger stopped at)
witewalzs
05-03-2011, 09:04 PM
Thats pretty quick,especially 2 up!
My Tj vrx on a private road... not being able 2 be picky it was a slight decent... 1 passenger, lowered car average tyres dry suraface, i did a 6.6 (thats when it was running at its prime) not so sure its capable of that anymore, i did reverse the run and did it up hill i did 6.9 uphill...
beleive or not but thats what my stopwatch (controlled by the passenger stopped at)
My Tj vrx on a private road... not being able 2 be picky it was a slight decent... 1 passenger, lowered car average tyres dry suraface, i did a 6.6 (thats when it was running at its prime) not so sure its capable of that anymore, i did reverse the run and did it up hill i did 6.9 uphill...
beleive or not but thats what my stopwatch (controlled by the passenger stopped at)
:facepalm i did the same thing once and got a 5.67 in my Ralliart with a stop watch... wld have to say there is always going to be a missing second without an accurate device.
Disciple
06-03-2011, 12:06 PM
Best way to measure it really, is get on a nice, flat bit of road, setup a camera fixed on the speedo, do the run, then later import the video into a movie making program and you can slow the movie down frame by frame. This is the way I did it with my acceleration runs. I was able to slow the 80-120km/h run down frame by frame to get a time of 2.16 seconds.
That's still not accurate enough. I did the same with the Ralliart but there is a second missing compared to a 'proper' 1/4 mile slip time.
There are so many people trying this and coming up with unrealistic times... check out all these Aurion's & Camry's getting 6 sec 0-100 doing the same thing :facepalm
LINK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl1sSGuyAOg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_h9SMvzcb0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WVxFT6ppOY&feature=related
380matey
06-03-2011, 01:47 PM
So (KJ/TreeWTF sort of a name is that? lol ) when did you install the AWD rubber bands on your 380?
Err at risk of being bloody obvious I believe it is a play on words
Tree adey
Three Eighty :nuts:
380matey
06-03-2011, 01:50 PM
May as well let you guys know I just completed my first quarter mile run tonight in the XRT. I'm still BUZZING!
11.199 @ 118.97 mph :D 4.1 - 4.2 0-100
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82560&page=9
SORRY, i didn't check the thread properly and didn't realize it was 380's only... my mistake... i just saw 0-100 figures and thought I'd post it up.
Yes we all hate you lol
TimmyC
06-03-2011, 01:51 PM
Was reading an article today about the TMR380. So took a pic of this, note the car has very few k's on it, so no doubt it would be a bit quicker once the engine is worn in. Still had a good lol at the times though
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo202/timcollings/34df899b.jpg
Yes we all hate you lol
That's ok 380matey... i 'still luv you all' that why i aint going nowhere. :D
TimmyC, that's a serious stuff up if they are trying to sell that car. lol, i see the funny side to it but if i were looking at buying the car I'd be saying to them, " gee wiz, whats the point in supercharging it if it goes as hard as my grandma's Prius?"
Mikey380sx
06-03-2011, 02:15 PM
Was reading an article today about the TMR380. So took a pic of this, note the car has very few k's on it, so no doubt it would be a bit quicker once the engine is worn in. Still had a good lol at the times though
Hmmm me thinks this was whilst towing the optional 2500kg TMR caravan lol
TimmyC
06-03-2011, 02:43 PM
That's ok 380matey... i 'still luv you all' that why i aint going nowhere. :D
TimmyC, that's a serious stuff up if they are trying to sell that car. lol, i see the funny side to it but if i were looking at buying the car I'd be saying to them, " gee wiz, whats the point in supercharging it if it goes as hard as my grandma's Prius?"
Hmmm me thinks this was whilst towing the optional 2500kg TMR caravan lol
Thats the proper result they got, not a stuff up, as its mentioned in the attached article as well. It was electronically timed in car, with traction control on and off. They aren't trying to sell the car, the magazine did a story on the TMR380 in general, and tested the car (Build #001) and they got those times.
Foozrcool
06-03-2011, 02:45 PM
Hmmm yeah not a good advertisment for the car lol
Knotched got that down the quarter in his N/A auto 380 & he messed the start up lol
Obviously has the S3 meaning 3PSI blower which takes 3 PSI to overcome the losses of the blower itself lol
Disciple
06-03-2011, 03:34 PM
That's still not accurate enough. I did the same with the Ralliart but there is a second missing compared to a 'proper' 1/4 mile slip time.
There are so many people trying this and coming up with unrealistic times... check out all these Aurion's & Camry's getting 6 sec 0-100 doing the same thing :facepalm
LINK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tl1sSGuyAOg&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_h9SMvzcb0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WVxFT6ppOY&feature=related
I can't say much about those videos, but when I put the movie file into Windows Movie Maker, I was able to slow the video down in 0.05s increments. I'd say it's pretty accurate.
TJ Sports
06-03-2011, 03:42 PM
makes me wonder why TMR bothered with the supercharger they should've just put in a bigger air box and k&n filter. imagine spending 60K on a car thats no quicker than a corolla
Was reading an article today about the TMR380. So took a pic of this, note the car has very few k's on it, so no doubt it would be a bit quicker once the engine is worn in. Still had a good lol at the times though
http://i376.photobucket.com/albums/oo202/timcollings/34df899b.jpg
Braedz
06-03-2011, 04:09 PM
That TMR figure can't be right. The time for a stock auto 380 VRX is 7.3secs. There is no possible way you could get a slower time with a blower, it just doesn't make sense!
Foozrcool
06-03-2011, 04:15 PM
Well mine when I put that first pile of crap S3 blower on only produced about 8kw more from memory. Made plenty of whining noises but didn't go hardly any better than N/A IMO.
The first couple of PSI has to overcome the inherent losses of the blower & the 20 TMR's all got built with S3 chargers sooooo the quoted KW figure is a load of crap & pulled from the Sprintex online calculator I'd say which is known to be quite wrong. The S5 blower however is a different story ;)
Still the 8.2 second figure can't be right unless they had the handbrake on during the run lol
HaydenVRX
06-03-2011, 04:25 PM
I think they floored it both times and sat on the spot spinning the tyres for around 2.5 seconds...
TimmyC
06-03-2011, 04:34 PM
I think they floored it both times and sat on the spot spinning the tyres for around 2.5 seconds...
If you read what I posted mate, the same times were recorded with both traction control on and off.
HaydenVRX
06-03-2011, 05:26 PM
Well even with the traction control on in my tj vr-x i could probably save myself 1 second in a 0-100 time by using a good takeoff technique because the wheels do spin. I just presumed a 380 would be similar, especially one that is supercharged. Yer the 2.5 seconds was an exhageration but you get what i mean haha
Knotched
06-03-2011, 06:10 PM
Obviously has the S3 meaning 3PSI blower which takes 3 PSI to overcome the losses of the blower itself lol
I got a 15.5 with masses of wheelspin. The TMR was never tested faster than the stock model. When ppl rave about TMR's 380 it makes me laugh. They obviously didn't treat it as a serious performance concern. As Foozr has outlined, the blower was only putting out 3psi so it was barely quicker than stock, let alone a well set up 380 that so many have now.
Foozrcool
06-03-2011, 06:21 PM
Yep there could still be up to 18 TMR drivers out there that wouldnt be very happy about there $60k investment if they only knew what an s3 blower was.
Blackstar
06-03-2011, 06:51 PM
Doesn't matter what the timing technique is, as long as the conditions are the same.
Here are a couple of videos taken on the same road (my driveway at home) for all you TMR380 haters.
I didn't rev the crap out of either of them on launch to exagerate their performance.
I can't see that much difference in 0-100km/h times, the XR6 is 0.1s faster on video on 1 run and 0.2s slower on another.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ObNfGvqWGB4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwlutWC59sQ
As I said these are both stock, as they came from the dealer, not reflashed or modded.
The TMR380, even with faulty S3 blower in that video is pretty damn good.
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witewalzs
06-03-2011, 09:24 PM
The whole reason I did timed runs was to see if the mods were actually doing anything,just seat of the pants feel is not good enough for me , I wanna see it! You can get some pretty accurate times If you use a couple of different methods simultaneously and do enough back to back runs(not just one or two), a pattern emerges and you take an average. Do ya mod then re-do the timing and, as Blackstar mentions, make sure the conditions are the same! I wasn't to fussed wether my times where 100% accurate(although my base time was the same as the "AS TESTED" times in mags)but as long as they were repeatable, then seeing improvements is easy! I think the motion sensing, GPS based timing methods are pretty good.
Disciple
07-03-2011, 06:12 AM
This is what I mean by being accurate - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_Ds6RjpTbo
I put that in Windows Movie Maker and added a stopwatch to the timeline. It's very accurate this way.
Blackstar
07-03-2011, 06:59 AM
This is what I mean by being accurate - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S_Ds6RjpTbo
I put that in Windows Movie Maker and added a stopwatch to the timeline. It's very accurate this way.
As they say...seeing is believing.
On a video if anyone is using violent launches, or holding the brake and revving the crap out of an auto to take off I don't bother watching it.
I knew i had a pic of this floating around on my computer somewhere. TMR 380's 0-100 and 1/4 mile times stock from Mitsubishi themselves. Give or take a few 0.10 of a second. @ the 2007 Melbourne Motor Show.
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/3016/tmr38001000400.jpg (http://img851.imageshack.us/i/tmr38001000400.jpg/)
I also have a video of my Ralliart timed 0-100 somewhere, when i find it I'll post it up. I'm sure as i was editing frame by frame i came across a discrepancy which affected the validity of calculating the times this way. I know it was something to do with the frames per second as such. When i find it I'll share it with you. I've used programs such as Adobe Premier and Pinnacle Studio. I did find that the frame rate per second in Windows Movie Maker was out by .07 each second. Now, i know that's a minor discrepancy but it adds up over time.
Braedz
07-03-2011, 07:56 PM
Now thats more like it! Thanks for the info Ezz :happy:
Blackstar
07-03-2011, 07:58 PM
I knew i had a pic of this floating around on my computer somewhere. TMR 380's 0-100 and 1/4 mile times stock from Mitsubishi themselves. Give or take a few 0.10 of a second. @ the 2007 Melbourne Motor Show.
http://img851.imageshack.us/img851/3016/tmr38001000400.jpg (http://img851.imageshack.us/i/tmr38001000400.jpg/)
I also have a video of my Ralliart timed 0-100 somewhere, when i find it I'll post it up. I'm sure as i was editing frame by frame i came across a discrepancy which affected the validity of calculating the times this way. I know it was something to do with the frames per second as such. When i find it I'll share it with you.
Same old, same old, same old misinformation.
It was never sold.....you are liberating the prototype and it's specifications as has every other review.
They did not sell any of those.
No wonder Mitsubishi didn't have a chance in this country.
Blackstar, I'm not questioning anything your saying, purely putting up the information that i have on it.
Agree, these never made it past this show... i knew something was fishy when i looked closely under the engine bay and saw what looked like a standard 380 setup... i queried the guys on this and i don't believe it even had the blower on it yet. :hmm:
So, I'm listening to you mate, as you have the cold hard evidence in your driveway. I believe you in what your stating... but I think that this 'Idea of Video/Editing in car speeds relating to times' can only be a very rough estimate of the 0-100 using a video camera and basic editing software as there are flaws within such programs such as frame loss etc. Wld luv to see what results you get after taking it down to the track one day?
I have nothing against the TMR 380's... i totally luv them and if i cld get one i wld. I hear you regarding misinformation from mitsu and other reviews. I much prefer personally hearing it from someone who actually owns the car and knows the car.
Blackstar
07-03-2011, 08:20 PM
My TMR380 will never get flogged at a drag strip, race track... maybe
Obviously noone has spoken up at all on the most glaringly obvious anomaly in those posted specs.
Cause lots talk about this and that but will never see one.
All TMR380's have auto transmission...and that's one big difference...also the diff ratio, the suspension, the wheel offsets, the seats , the interior etc etc
What hit the showrooms is an emmisions and ADR compliant Supercharged V6 street car....
380matey
08-03-2011, 08:27 AM
Another sales hype mule for a show. happens a lot esp with V8 supercars etc
ads_german
31-08-2011, 12:24 AM
Thought I'd drag up an old thread to add my 2 cents worth...
Did a couple of quick 0-100 acceleration tests in my 380 recently (on a quiet road with a 110kmh limit, but not enough runs to nail a decent launch without excessive wheelspin). Worst was 8.04, best was 7.81, as measured by an Android phone app (UlysseSpeedometer). This is slightly better than most magazine/web reports I had read (generally low to mid 8's), only "mods" are Galant intake, and an extra cold air feed into the airbox, plus a straight through muffler. I doubt these mods would make more than 0.1 second improvement to 0-100 times, so I was slightly surprised at the results, and also given that my previous car was a 175kw VZ Commodore which "felt" slightly faster off the line, and was typically quoted in reviews around the 8 flat to low 8's mark 0-100. That said, my fairly worn Dunlop tyres give pretty average grip on takeoff compared to the Bridgestone RE001's on my other (bog standard) 380.
Interested to see if anyone else has used a GPS app to measure times - I'm not sure I trust times based on a handheld stopwatch or similar - too much human error can creep in. Previous reports of low 7's 0-100 for (basically) standard 380's seem maybe a bit optimistic to me, given Mitsu's official claim was 7.6 seconds, and widely acknowledged to be a bit optimistic itself...
On a side note, had an Aurion hire car for 10 days recently (admittedly a non-sport suspension model) - holy shit, straight line speed, especially 80-120kmh overtaking, is well faster than the 380, but it handles like a wet sponge, while managing to do a piss poor job of damping minor bumps plus providing scary steering kickback from mid-corner bumps. So fast in a straight line though...
0-100 is, and always will be, a shit measurement for performance
380Mitsu
31-08-2011, 09:56 AM
Interested to see if anyone else has used a GPS app to measure times - I'm not sure I trust times based on a handheld stopwatch or similar - too much human error can creep in. Previous reports of low 7's 0-100 for (basically) standard 380's seem maybe a bit optimistic to me, given Mitsu's official claim was 7.6 seconds, and widely acknowledged to be a bit optimistic itself...
If you go back to the original Wheels review of the 380 upon its release, they recorded a 7.1 or 7.2 0-100 in a stock (ES) 380. That's not Mitsubishi figures. The VRX was slower by a slight margin due to the apparent extra weight of the model.
ads_german
31-08-2011, 11:55 AM
0-100 is, and always will be, a shit measurement for performance
I'd agree that in the real world, overtaking times are a more useful performance comparison, but I don't see why 0-100 times are a shit measurement - care to elaborate? Surely they at least provide a good way to compare different cars against each other, even if road surfaces and driver skill will affect launches far more than roll-on acceleration times?
HaydenVRX
31-08-2011, 04:45 PM
I wouldn't call it shit. the lower the 0-100 time usually reflects the performance of the car in a straight line. The car with the best 0-100 will usually have better drag times.
Mecha-wombat
31-08-2011, 06:59 PM
I wouldn't call it shit. the lower the 0-100 time usually reflects the performance of the car in a straight line. The car with the best 0-100 will usually have better drag times.
Real world when do you drag another car off from 0-100??
That is why it is a shit measure.
HaydenVRX
31-08-2011, 07:14 PM
Real world when do you drag another car off from 0-100??
That is why it is a shit measure.
whenever you go to any of the legal places where you can race your car. What else would you use to measure performance????
Magna Carta
31-08-2011, 10:25 PM
How are you guys measuring your times?
Remember that a lot of factory speedos aren't accurate and often, when it displays 100klm/h, you're probably still doing 9xklm/h.
Hand timing and relying on factory speedo is a very inaccurate way of recording 0-100.
Official time slip is much more accurate.
I know we love our Magnas but we saw what kind of times a TMR 380 is doing.
For comparison to another powerful FWD, consider that the Toyota Aurion TRD is rated at 241kw / 400nm with a time of 6.1 seconds for 0-100 ...
Its very difficult to break the 5 second barrier in a FWD. the megane boys are managing it, but without a lot of extra power. Suspension plays a massive role in standing start FWD acceleration. I think the Focus RS500 was only about 5.7 to 100. As i was saying above, 0-100 is a rubbish performance indicator. Even though an AurionTRD can only manage 6.1 to 100, it would absolutely trollop other "faster" cars in a rolling test
HaydenVRX
01-09-2011, 06:03 AM
practice makes for perfect launches when combined with lsds and semi slicks :)
Ive managed a 0-100km in 5.7secs in my 3.5l manual with mods. Done it a fair few times but i drive the **** out of the thing to get that time. believe it or not
Why are some people negative and disbelieving?
Kurt's posted his 1/4 mile time before: 9.544 seconds to 120.84kph - this is a fact.
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/338/23112010274.jpg/
Everything else is just conjecture, if you doubt it, say so. But don't say it didn't happen because you can't prove that it didn't.
SH00T
02-09-2011, 05:18 AM
Not sure how to read a time slip, enlighten me on what R/T means please.
And help me out here too, I could be missing something, but 9.5 secs to 120kmph on a prepared surface, seems to be long way off 5.7 to 100 on a street.
Disciple
02-09-2011, 05:56 AM
Not sure how to read a time slip, enlighten me on what R/T means please.
And help me out here too, I could be missing something, but 9.5 secs to 120kmph on a prepared surface, seems to be long way off 5.7 to 100 on a street.
Don't doubt it though please Marty.
I will help you out. R/T is reaction time which in essence means nothing for us plebs at the track. R/T is used in competitive drag racing where guys have to "dial in" a time and then get as close to that time as possible, including their R/T. For general users like us, it doesn't count to anything - it's simply the amount of time you sat at the lights before you left. The timing gear doesn't start until you break the beam.
Now, to help you on your second question, on a fully prepared racing surface, possibly with his tyres let down slightly for more traction, Kurt's time slip would indicate that after 9.544 seconds on the drag strip, he was travelling at 120km/h. I am going to be kind and say that it took Kurt 7.95 seconds to hit 100km/h.
Someone smarter than me needs to do the maths here, but that's what I got. Unless it takes 3.85 seconds to go from 100km/h to 120km/h, which I highly doubt.
SH00T
02-09-2011, 06:23 AM
Thanks, the reaction I figured out on the way to work, but breaking the beam answered my next question. Cheers, good luck with the 380 btw......
Braedz
02-09-2011, 07:06 AM
Guys, please remember that there is no SPAM allowed in the tech forums. Try and keep your post relevant to the OP.
If I find anyone else posting SPAM in here, there will be consequences in place.
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