Just wondering guys, I saw the magna section has a thread about it.. I know theres one about the fuelconsumption for the 380 but i thought i'd make a new one.

I do mainly city driving - average speed 40. Fuel consumption 14.5L. Making just 410KMs on a fuel tank whether 98ron or e10.. Using 60Litres ( computer says)

what do you guys get?

Mines a 2007 series 2 vrx

thanks guys.

I get around 510Km to a tank on 98ron. 70% suburban, 30% highway driving. And I dont drive like a granny either lol.

Series 1 base model manual, 98RON, 510km/60l when 90/10 suburban/highway, up to 650km/60l if the other way around (10/90 suburban/highway), overall average around 550km/60l, and like Braedz I give it plenty of WOT!

I tried driving like a granny, setting cruise on 60kphs LOL, can't be asssed to though, i give it alot too. maybe thats the reason im getting 410ks a tank.. 50kms of tiptronic and high end shifting. ;s

Funny this has come up.

I've been comparing ranges with my kids' cars that I am driving ATM while mine is repaired.
All hwy driving and exactly the same route.
Holden Vectra 2.2L- ~ 550km
Toyota Celica 2.2L 6th Gen ~ 600km
My car VRX Series 2 with Xede - 690km

690? What on earth is xede? car steriods?

Haha... Chip Torque Exede. It's a piggyback and I get 8.6L/100km with normal driving and the occasional squirt (WOT). I could get better than this - I've seen 7.9 but I can't be bothered driving like Grandpa for a full tank - that would give around 730km.

holyshiz, howmuch for the chip? damn its a good investment if its a decent price.

$1500 with dyno tuning. Some say not worth it, but for me it obviously is, as I do a full tank - 650km, sometimes more, per week. You get an extra 7kw as a bonus.

$1500 with dyno tuning. Some say not worth it, but for me it obviously is, as I do a full tank - 650km, sometimes more, per week. You get an extra 7kw as a bonus.

Thats not to bad..

So my decision comes down to.. 20inch rims or car steriods.

if you are worried about fuel economy 20s are probably not for you. i get 350-450 kms to a tank. with 20s. extractors, and (very) straight through exhaust. grandpa driving yields about 13l/100kms (according to the trip computer which we know is woefully not accuarate) Jamie style driving yields 16-18l/100 lol.
still get down tio about 8.5 on the freeway however.

Alright so mine ATM, as is with the 20's on around town ill get between 530 to 550 k's per tank. I can and have done Sydney to Melbourne on a tank with the 20's on. JUST. So 870 k's. With however with my stock 17's the best i ever got and i shit you not was 1002 k's till i literally ran out of juice and had to call my brother for help, that was a full tank from Sydney to just before Albury (VIC border) and back home then to work the next day then broke down lol. 560 k's on half a tank i saw during my drive. That was when i was on my red p's and restricted to 90km/h on cruise. I only ever use shell's V Power 98.


Oh and do get the 20's instead lol. Fuel econ is worse but looks PORN.

Alright so mine ATM, as is with the 20's on around town ill get between 530 to 550 k's per tank. I can and have done Sydney to Melbourne on a tank with the 20's on. JUST. So 870 k's.

Winner lol

1002km doesn't count because you ran out and are disqualified. However, pretty awesome just the same.

Winner lol

1002km doesn't count because you ran out and are disqualified. However, pretty awesome just the same.

lol i was LITERALLY about a K From the servo.

if you are worried about fuel economy 20s are probably not for you. i get 350-450 kms to a tank. with 20s. extractors, and (very) straight through exhaust. grandpa driving yields about 13l/100kms (according to the trip computer which we know is woefully not accuarate) Jamie style driving yields 16-18l/100 lol.
still get down tio about 8.5 on the freeway however.

hmmmmm. :kb: good to see someone is sometimes getting lower results than me :eek2:


Alright so mine ATM, as is with the 20's on around town ill get between 530 to 550 k's per tank. I can and have done Sydney to Melbourne on a tank with the 20's on. JUST. So 870 k's. With however with my stock 17's the best i ever got and i shit you not was 1002 k's till i literally ran out of juice and had to call my brother for help, that was a full tank from Sydney to just before Albury (VIC border) and back home then to work the next day then broke down lol. 560 k's on half a tank i saw during my drive. That was when i was on my red p's and restricted to 90km/h on cruise. I only ever use shell's V Power 98.


Oh and do get the 20's instead lol. Fuel econ is worse but looks PORN.
:woot: i'm JUST getting 410KMs on a tank. if get lower but dad will shoot me hahaha. but i do like pron so i'm probably gonna go ahead with 20s. still looking around for a second hand set though. not gonna pay 3k for new set and tyres.. :eeek:

Idk how you're getting 500+ in town? currently mines fully stock apart from amc stickers lollol
great grandad driving style will get me 460 with 98ron shell. maybe the new intake will get me that 40K more for 500k maybe?:badgrin::badgrin:

edit; cool use of emoticons.. haha

Thats not to bad..

So my decision comes down to.. 20inch rims or car steriods.

Like Richard (Knotched) I also have a ChipTorque Xede piggyback ECU. Tuned to run on 98RON. But Richard gets better fuel econonmy than me with highway driving coz his auto is doing only 2,200 rpm at 110 km/h where my manual is doing 2,900 rpm. With suburban driving we would be much the same, as a properly tuned Xede leans out the air fuel
ratios (AFRs) at wide throttle openings by quite a bit. If you plan to keep your 380 for many years (at least five) and you do plenty of km then fitting an Xede will be cost effective. But there is a strong rumour that someone has finally cracked the 380 ECU so in the not too distant future you might be able to get a re-flash of your ECU for around $500 rather that spending approx $1,500 on an Xede (including fitting & tuning).

Like Richard (Knotched) I also have a ChipTorque Xede piggyback ECU. Tuned to run on 98RON. But Richard gets better fuel econonmy than me with highway driving coz his auto is doing only 2,200 rpm at 110 km/h where my manual is doing 2,900 rpm. With suburban driving we would be much the same, as a properly tuned Xede leans out the air fuel
ratios (AFRs) at wide throttle openings by quite a bit. If you plan to keep your 380 for many years (at least five) and you do plenty of km then fitting an Xede will be cost effective. But there is a strong rumour that someone has finally cracked the 380 ECU so in the not too distant future you might be able to get a re-flash of your ECU for around $500 rather that spending approx $1,500 on an Xede (including fitting & tuning).

Thanks very much for the info :) appreciate it. oh you got a rare manual :D . i just sit here and think.. and all the things i wanna do is gonna cost me over 5K.. for a 17k car. :S. dads telling me to trade in mine for a Peugeot or a i30 diesel :hmm::hmm: not gonna happen hahah. anyway, i filled up this morning, im gonna control my lead foot and see what i can achieve. If i still get low 400km results i will do something to fix the problem.

Out of interest, what is the Capacity of a 380 Tank??

Out of interest, what is the Capacity of a 380 Tank??

According to the brochure 67 litres.

But once you get down to about 7 litres left the fuel guage reads empty and the trip meter reckons your have 0 km range to empty.

So practically speaking the capacity is 60 litres.

That's all I have ever been able to pump in at one go.

Thanks very much for the info :) appreciate it. oh you got a rare manual :D . i just sit here and think.. and all the things i wanna do is gonna cost me over 5K.. for a 17k car. :S. dads telling me to trade in mine for a Peugeot or a i30 diesel :hmm::hmm: not gonna happen hahah. anyway, i filled up this morning, im gonna control my lead foot and see what i can achieve. If i still get low 400km results i will do something to fix the problem.

First thing you should do is look at the simple cheap mods that have been proven to improve fuel economy and throttle response, not to mention sound.

The 90mm Galant intake snorkel, a less restrictive rear muffler and cut the end off the lower resonator.

So practically speaking the capacity is 60 litres.

That's all I have ever been able to pump in at one go.

I managed 68.2 at a BP once, and I had driven there on my own power. :hmm:

I managed 68.2 at a BP once, and I had driven there on my own power. :hmm:

i have a fuel receipt somewhere where i filled up 67.6 litres. Though i do remember turning off my car and the fuel gauge didn't even go down the slightest, it was that empty.

Also, when i did the 100k's on a tank the only mod i had done was lowering, standard air intake also. I had recently brought it so all intake and everything was stock. To date i have recently put back in the paper filter and only mod i have to my engine area is the 90mm Galant intake and stock (shame) exhaust.

Filled up at fitzroy in Melbourne. Drove the Hume to gosford 733klm. Cruise control all the way. Two adults with boot full of luggage. 36psi in the tyres. In excess of 40c all the way. Refill took 63litres.

Dont know. Never drop below half. Got a thing about running out of fuel. Unlike my dear missus!

I refill when the range just gets to 0km.

Around town 500km, trip computer average speed 30-35km/hr.
On the highway 700km, trip computer average speed 105-110km/hr.

67 litres is the useable capacity. Aircraft also list fuel capacities as "useable fuel". The tank holds more than that, and the rest is considered "unuseable" because continuous fuel supply can not be guaranteed in all environments (ie if you car is on a steep slope). In reality, normally the car is fairly level and so more than the 67 litres can be accessed.

I'd probably guess the unusable fuel in a 380 would be between 2-3 litres, so that's why people have managed to get up to 68-69 litres in.

I know that when the trip computer range says 0km, I still have approx 7 litres left and could hence do 50-60km around town or 100km on the highway. But I don't take the risk - running out of fuel is not good for you vehicle's fuel system components and catalytic converter.

I get around 510Km to a tank on 98ron. 70% suburban, 30% highway driving. And I dont drive like a granny either lol.
yes you do yes you do lol

Thats not to bad..

So my decision comes down to.. 20inch rims or car steriods.
Bugger the 20" rims! Get chipped!

Running out of or really low on fuel is not good. You are dredging up all the crap from the bottom of the tank. This will eventually stuff things up like your injectors and cat. On the subject of crap in your tank, running a tank of E10 (ewwww yes I know:naughty::angry::shock:) will help get the moisture out of your system. I used to put some metho in too.....ages ago lol

With however with my stock 17's the best i ever got and i shit you not was 1002 k's till i literally ran out of juice and had to call my brother for help, that was a full tank from Sydney to just before Albury (VIC border) and back home then to work the next day then broke down lol. 560 k's on half a tank i saw during my drive. That was when i was on my red p's and restricted to 90km/h on cruise. I only ever use shell's V Power 98.

Sorry but I will have to call BS on this as I don't believe that a 380 could sustain an average of around 6.7L/100K for 1000 kms. How much fuel did you put in when you filled up? I have tried some economy runs and find that this is unachievable, esp on cruise as it is far less thrifty than an educated right foot. Is there anyone else out there that thinks it can do 6.7 over 1000 k ? I would be interested to know.

67 litres, useable, eh?

That's good to know. The most I've ever put in is 58L so I might run mine to empty (that is; indicating 0 range).

What damage would it do if you literally drove it empty? (with a few litres in a can to pour in after you konk out)

Unless you do it hundreds of times a month there won't be any immediate effects.

What damage would it do if you literally drove it empty? (with a few litres in a can to pour in after you konk out)

You will wreck your electric, in tank fuel pump.
They are designed to be immersed.

Though it will take a few times, not just once, you will need to thump it to loosen the bearings duue to bearing migration.

Very common remedy by RACV road side assist...just thump the motor and shes away until tank gets low again...

What damage would it do if you literally drove it empty? (with a few litres in a can to pour in after you konk out)

Would only do any serious damage if you did it lots of times or if you didn't rectify it immediately (ie left dry for ages).

1. Like Blackstar said, not good for in tank fuel pump.
2. Seals in the fuel system are not lubricated, can go dry and crack.
3. As the engine starts to get starved of fuel and begins coughing and eventually conking out, the fuel mixture alternates between super lean and super rich as the fuel pressure fails and the ECU is wildly trying to fix. As a result, quite often raw unburnt fuel goes down the exhaust - and the cat can get very, very hot as a result.
4. Detonation if accelerating hard at the time of the starvation due to lean mixtures, but wouldn't last more than a couple of seconds so wouldn't do any real damage.

I don't really buy into the "crap in the bottom of the tank" theory ruining your injectors... That's what a fuel filter is for, and the fuel sloshes around a LOT during normal driving, so it's all mixed in rather well anyway.

I can get over 500 around town, my average speed in Canberra is in the 50's.

I don't see how 1000km's to a tank on the highway is possible but I think I remember reading about this before and there was a pic of the distance to empty readout showing over 1000?

I don't really buy into the "crap in the bottom of the tank" theory ruining your injectors... That's what a fuel filter is for, and the fuel sloshes around a LOT during normal driving, so it's all mixed in rather well anyway.
Yeah but that is how you stuff up your in tank filter with a whole lot of crap. mind you fuel is a lot cleaner these days. Perhaps you have managed to mix fuel and water by sloshing around in the tank?

Straight from Kifs phone.
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just sent some pics to ih8hsv to post up for you to see as proof as i can't post any ATM.

Wow swap cars, thanks. :D

Sorry but that doesn't prove it. I can get those figures up too by doing another splash in the tank. Kif (and I am not flaming you here mate but..) I have EXTREME difficulties in believing that anyone can get an average of 6.7 out of a 380 over 1000 km. You haven't posted how much fuel you filled up on from empty either.

Sorry but that doesn't prove it. I can get those figures up too by doing another splash in the tank. Kif (and I am not flaming you here mate but..) I have EXTREME difficulties in believing that anyone can get an average of 6.7 out of a 380 over 1000 km. You haven't posted how much fuel you filled up on from empty either.
Sorry mate i dont recall how many litres it took to fill up as my brother brought me a half filled 10 litre jerry can of fuel (have no idea how many litres was in it but fuel light was still on when i started it). All i can say is i filled it up, drove it at 90km/h on cruise control all day, had lunch near Albury before heading back home to Sydney, i'm very sincere with this and those photos are of my trip because i too was very surprised with the fuel economy as well.

At the end of the day I'm not going to twist anyone's arm into believing me, that is of course up to you to believe it or not, obviously your not convinced but mate, I'm VERY honest here mate, i really am not into making stuff like this up if it didn't actually happen

Regards.

Sorry mate i dont recall how many litres it took to fill up as my brother brought me a half filled 10 litre jerry can of fuel (have no idea how many litres was in it but fuel light was still on when i started it). All i can say is i filled it up, drove it at 90km/h on cruise control all day, had lunch near Albury before heading back home to Sydney, i'm very sincere with this and those photos are of my trip because i too was very surprised with the fuel economy as well.

At the end of the day I'm not going to twist anyone's arm into believing me, that is of course up to you to believe it or not, obviously your not convinced but mate, I'm VERY honest here mate, i really am not into making stuff up to make myself look any better.
Move aside Prius !! We have a new contender! I do believe you are honest in what you say and if you live on the south western side of Sydney then the kilometres travelled would be pretty well spot on. My only issue is I often drive to economy as a challenge, and have never achieved anywhere near your average on a trip. I have done the 90mm and lower intake mods and have a straight through redback muffler and run my tyres @ 40psi. If you have done this then your ECU must be different to mine!!

that is possible by just doing straight freeway driving no city driving at all.

Move aside Prius !! We have a new contender! I do believe you are honest in what you say and if you live on the south western side of Sydney then the kilometres travelled would be pretty well spot on. My only issue is I often drive to economy as a challenge, and have never achieved anywhere near your average on a trip. I have done the 90mm and lower intake mods and have a straight through redback muffler and run my tyres @ 40psi. If you have done this then your ECU must be different to mine!!
as stated, only mod was it was lowered, stock intake, stock filter stock everything and have always ran 40psi in my tires, i live about 2 k"s from the hume highway in Liverpool so it was straight onto the Hume highway so there was no stop-starting driving at all.

TJ 3.5L - gunning it around town for 300 km - av = 14.5
90 KPH cruise = 6.3 - 6.7 (inst fuel consumption)
100 KPH cruise = 7.2
110 KPH cruise = 7.5

On a non stop run, with no stops or traffic to be help up by, or zoom past, flat road, cruise on, I think kif's claim is achievable. So you would use 67L in 1,000 km. Still some fuel left. lol

Big difference in fuel economy between the manual and auto equipped 380's.

The auto is much faster in the 0-100km/h and uses a lot less fuel.

From what I've seen there is a huge difference in the rpm at 100km/h, you've got to expect it to use more fuel simply on that basis.

Auto at 100km/h = 1800 rpm
Man at 100km/h = 2800 rpm


That's a huge difference.

as stated, only mod was it was lowered, stock intake, stock filter stock everything and have always ran 40psi in my tires, i live about 2 k"s from the hume highway in Liverpool so it was straight onto the Hume highway so there was no stop-starting driving at all.

So one tank Liverpool to Albury? Well done. Coming from a 2001 220kw XR8 (That's a Ford V8 for anyone that doesn't know) that is lucky to get 400km around town from 60 litres (yet got me from Melbourne to Yass, with enough juice to get me home, ie around 10.xxl/100km), I'm now looking forward to a long trip in the 380. Even if I only achieve 8s or 9s on the highway, it's still way better than our other car (Ford Territory AWD, averages around 13l/100km on the highway at 110km/h).

Too bad Mitsubishi stopped producing these cars - those sort of figures would go very well right at the moment with the price of fuel and the focus on fuel economy.

I think a lot of people in this thread are missing the point that kif was travelling at 90km/h when recording that fuel consumption figure which saves quite a bit of fuel when compared to travelling at 110-115km/h which most people travel at on the highway.

I think a lot of people in this thread are missing the point that kif was travelling at 90km/h when recording that fuel consumption figure which saves quite a bit of fuel when compared to travelling at 110-115km/h which most people travel at on the highway.

Fair point, and one I hadn't missed, which is why I expect to get around 8-ish at proper (ie full licence holder) speeds.

Auto at 100km/h = 1800 rpm
Man at 100km/h = 2800 rpm


That's a huge difference.

Didn't know that, is the manual so high in the revs so it has power for top gear cruise control????

Travelling at 90km/h makes a huge difference to fuel econ, around 90 for a v6 should be the Optimal speed for econ, varies from car to car obviously.

Just did 612kms on a tank of 95RON drove around town and then down around to southern highlands today, even got me some off road in there too. Spent a lot of time on the highway today@ 80kms just due to traffic

Nice to read everyones comments :)

Currently at 146KM's 13.3L, ( was doing blockies in town) jumped from 12.8>13.3L. :D . lost 1 bar from the fuel gauge meter thingy. average speed 45..

I get around 14.3 litres per 100 around town in the 380. On the other hand my 300kw xr6 turbo gets about the same 14.5 - 15

I've noe donw a week's worth of commuting to work (mixed 60/80/100 zones) plus a few days off so shorter trips, and the trip meter thingy tells me 13l/100km, that's after 380 odd km out of this tank, with still more than a 1/4 tank to go - loving it (in my previous car - AU2 XR8 - I would have refilled approx 60 litres about 30km ago).

I've noe donw a week's worth of commuting to work (mixed 60/80/100 zones) plus a few days off so shorter trips, and the trip meter thingy tells me 13l/100km, that's after 380 odd km out of this tank, with still more than a 1/4 tank to go - loving it (in my previous car - AU2 XR8 - I would have refilled approx 60 litres about 30km ago).

Wow you should get a manual magna ralliart haha. I've been driving with much spirit around town (40-70 zones) and am still on 10.8l/100 after 250km, Amazing.

Hayden this the 380 section not the TJ magna section

how about we compare my corolla getting 7l/100 to your manual ralliart lets compare apples with apples as that what the OP is about thank you

But back to the OP running around this week see me with 11s

Wow you should get a manual magna ralliart haha. I've been driving with much spirit around town (40-70 zones) and am still on 10.8l/100 after 250km, Amazing.

Hey Hayden,

I get 10.1/100km towing my 7X4 steel trailer over 200km around my place.

I don't bother trying to work out how good/bad my car is on fuel anymore. I just fill it up when it needs it lol

EDIT: the average consumption readout says 10.8 at the moment though. Probably the best I have ever averaged. Usually it hovers around 12-12.5 i think.

That very good. What's your average speed?

I'm currently at 237KM 14.4L PER 100K. fuel gauge half way and 220km left says computer

I'm past caring..... Currently 15L per 100K cos I've been giving it heaps. Luvit!!

You must be giving it all if youre at 15! I can't seem to get past 14.7. MY RECORD!

Never hit 15 before either. Must be fuel prices at over $1.50 !!

Nice. Petrol is around 1.46 around here these days. cmon fuel prices catch up to me!

Just filled up - 420.3kms for 53.06 litres. Trip computer says that's 12.8 (real calc comes out at 12.6). So I splurged and gave it Vortex 95 (@$1.56 per litre).

Nice mate nice, I;ve only been using shell atm, probably cause i only shop at coles :D

The only time I think that I have been in the 12's is when I was towing the camper trailer!!

I started using the 95RON instead of the 98RON notice a drop in pick up but econ is the same

Meh save myself all of nothing really going back to BP ultimate cause I can get it the same price as 95RON

I'm getting pretty bad economy Lucky to get 330 - 350kms on a tank and I can't figure out why. If I even average out what I'm reading on the thread I should be getting at least 400 - 500km on a tank, and by the sounds of it you guys are more rev heads than me :P . It's a daily driver and hard to give it WOT during peak traffic but I do give it stick from time to time. I'm hovering around 17 - 18L on the gauge which certainly isn't great.

I'm beginning to wonder if there something fishy with the car or if it's purely because I city drive daily. Any ideas on what I can look at during next service?

Holy hell mate, 18L must be a record on these forums haha,
im @ 450kM+ 150kms left cause 450 of those kilo's are from hwy driving, anyway, howmany kms have you done so far? 330k-350k a tank is unbelievable.

Car has done 97,000 to date. Got the car when it had about 50,000 on the clock. Since I got the car it's been doing about that per tank so I never gave it much thought but now with petrol prices being like gold I'm a little more conscious of mileage. To put it lightly it does no more mileage than my old 2L impreza and that sucks.

Lxfirm where in NSW are you?? if you are in sydney come to one of the social meets (they are posted up in the NSW section) and Kif and I can give it a squiz

But if you have not got the 90mm intake I would get that pronto as I got a 10% gain in econ off the bat, also inflate your tyres to 38-40 PSI in the front and 42 in the rear for a little more savings in econ if you are running the stock 17' rim

Car has done 97,000 to date. Got the car when it had about 50,000 on the clock. Since I got the car it's been doing about that per tank so I never gave it much thought but now with petrol prices being like gold I'm a little more conscious of mileage. To put it lightly it does no more mileage than my old 2L impreza and that sucks.

Im not very happy with mine and im getting 400k's city.. You must be pretty p*ssed, also whats this hurricane muffler you speak of? is it a straight thru? what does it sound like? im interested :D, and yeah, my dads maxima gets 150km more k's than me and he puts the same amount in the tank as i do..

Lxfirm where in NSW are you?? if you are in sydney come to one of the social meets (they are posted up in the NSW section) and Kif and I can give it a squiz

But if you have not got the 90mm intake I would get that pronto as I got a 10% gain in econ off the bat, also inflate your tyres to 38-40 PSI in the front and 42 in the rear for a little more savings in econ if you are running the stock 17' rim

I'm a Parramatta local I'll check out the meet threads. I did get the 90mm intake and it's on there. Didn't notice much on economy side but pretty sure throttle response was much better. I am running stock rims so will look at checking my typre pressure. Car's due for service in about another 1000km so was thinking of getting mechanic to check a few things out like sparks, and anything else fuel related.




Im not very happy with mine and im getting 400k's city.. You must be pretty p*ssed, also whats this hurricane muffler you speak of? is it a straight thru? what does it sound like? im interested :D, and yeah, my dads maxima gets 150km more k's than me and he puts the same amount in the tank as i do..

I'm not happy that's for sure heh. I got the hurricane cat back from Liverpool exhaust. I haven't done much with either end of the car to date. It sounds decent, doesn't have the burble that some do but sounds nice enough in WOT.

Holy hell mate, 18L must be a record on these forums haha,
im @ 450kM+ 150kms left cause 450 of those kilo's are from hwy driving, anyway, howmany kms have you done so far? 330k-350k a tank is unbelievable.

haha mines sitting on 19.4 atm. usually 18+.
started driving the magna to work and using the 380 on longer trips.

sweet catback :) yeah, mines going in for service next week, might get the mechanics to check things to. do you get yours done at ur local mitsu dealers? if so roughly howmuch is it for a 45K service do you reckon? only 107$ at jax and it's not a major service.. so might take mine to a local

@ stormie, i dont get it haha, mines 14.7 and can't get higher, currently at 10.1 due to hwy driving, 19.4 is crazy, reckon the bugatti can do better (sarcasm) :D do you sit on 2nd gear hahaha

i think this whole convo is a little blurry... to not make it blurrier lets set it straight guys - average consumption is heavily dependent on the average speed - so before you say "I am too high" or I am too low on fuel" check your average speed... my 380 does around 13.3l/100km on average speed 35km/h over a week, 15l on on average speed 30km/h over a week, 16-17l100km on average speed 25km/h over a week, and much better when driving faster around 10.2l/100km on average speed 40+km/h over a week of driving - it also makes big difference on the same route driven in the peak on off peak - school holidays etc.

If you averaging more than 15l on average speed 30k/h than i would think there is a drama somewhere but otherwise i wouldnt bother too much - its V6

i think this whole convo is a little blurry... to not make it blurrier lets set it straight guys - average consumption is heavily dependent on the average speed - so before you say "I am too high" or I am too low on fuel" check your average speed... my 380 does around 13.3l/100km on average speed 35km/h over a week, 15l on on average speed 30km/h over a week, 16-17l100km on average speed 25km/h over a week, and much better when driving faster around 10.2l/100km on average speed 40+km/h over a week of driving - it also makes big difference on the same route driven in the peak on off peak - school holidays etc.

If you averaging more than 15l on average speed 30k/h than i would think there is a drama somewhere but otherwise i wouldnt bother too much - its V6
i like this post.
im not complaining! that 18+ figure is using the car to work and back which is a 4 km trip with four sets of lights where the posted speed limit is 60. so average speed is quite low.
another thing is tyre size... as most of us are no longer running stock wheels/tyres. - in L per 100kms there are two points how many litres. and how many kilometres are in your recorded 100. i know that my rims/tyre combo is larger than standard so my 100 kms is almost exactly 100 (a stock car is about 95 as far as i can tell)

oh and VRX one idea chris and I (380ftw) came up with for the poor economy on my car is actually a lack of back pressure in the exhaust. since that was about when it started performing differently from standard cars.
unfortunately i cant identify which part as i had extractors, hi flow, and dual mufflers all installed over the course of a day. plus all new stainless piping for the whole lot. (larger than the standard pipe if i remember correctly - ill dig up the receipt later haha)

Damn I would sell it and buy something with built in grunt for those K/100L.

haha mines sitting on 19.4 atm. usually 18+.
started driving the magna to work and using the 380 on longer trips.
You know you can change out of second :-) - just bump the shifter forward one or 2 times in manual mode. You must really drive it get that sort of consumption; either that, or you average 20km/h in stop/start traffic over a long distance.

oh and VRX one idea chris and I (380ftw) came up with for the poor economy on my car is actually a lack of back pressure in the exhaust. since that was about when it started performing differently from standard cars.
unfortunately i cant identify which part as i had extractors, hi flow, and dual mufflers all installed over the course of a day. plus all new stainless piping for the whole lot. (larger than the standard pipe if i remember correctly - ill dig up the receipt later haha)

Yeah sweet, problem is the exhausts places here are so picky and won't listen to what i want to do. ahaha its like cut the flange off and its like why would you wnt to do that. and prices are ridic! we have 1 berklee shop and it quoted me 330$ just for berklees, i kinda like the burble when i sit on 5th gear accelerating so lightly so i dont hit 4th hahaha.

anyway so much things to do with no money when you're a fulltime student atm :( what does urs sound like :O

I have a 380 VRX Series 3 which I get 620Km (average) out of every 98Ron tank.
ATM running 63.7K/h avg speed and 10.7/100Km, mainly freeway driving about 80% to 20% suburb driving.

Hey welcome to the forums. im new here to :D

im @ 490Kms, 120Kms left and 70ave speed from the 450k hwy drive. first time getting more than 500k in a tank since i purchased it.

When I have cruise control on, the car only revs at around 1200rpm at 110k/hr, it is very low which surprised me when I first bought the car and drove it home.
Can't complain about how many k's I get outta this car. I am also running the stock VRX 17s with the factory tyres at the correct pressures. I guess all those things change fuel consumption.

Yeah, we don't have a straight freeway like you do so mine is usually sitting on 1.8k usually in the hwy.. im also currently on 17's and gotta check the tyre pressure tomorrow.

When I have cruise control on, the car only revs at around 1200rpm at 110k/hr, it is very low which surprised me when I first bought the car and drove it home.
Can't complain about how many k's I get outta this car. I am also running the stock VRX 17s with the factory tyres at the correct pressures. I guess all those things change fuel consumption.

These things have 5% speedo error from factory (check it against GPS), so at 110, you're doing more like 103. Just thought I'd throw that in .....

These things have 5% speedo error from factory (check it against GPS), so at 110, you're doing more like 103. Just thought I'd throw that in .....

Hi it's not speedo error it's the size (diameter) of tyre - bigger the tyre slower on the speedo and also smaller the faster.

Hi it's not speedo error it's the size (diameter) of tyre - bigger the tyre slower on the speedo and also smaller the faster.

Yeah I have found my speedo is out too, I went past a rader gun sitting on 120 in a 110 zone and not a peep from the cops, I have also checked against the GPS speed and there is definitely a problem there

Its not a problem as explained in the post before tyre size affects the speedo reading its quite simple and can be fixed with a different tyre diameter. Manufacturers do this on purpose to give the motorist a buffer

http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

just to remove any doubts about Tacho reading and tire size - visit this calculator site and do some calculations for yourselves - it gives you also the indication how this affects reading on the Tacho - Too Slow or Too Fast.

I've had my 380 for exactly a year now and the most I ever got was about 380ks. I have been averaging 350 per full tank with Shell V-Power. It was costing me too much so I decided to sell it.

However, 2 weeks ago, I tried Magnatech oil instead of Penrite and also changed my sparkles for the first time. I used NGK Platinum ones. Now my car is doing 500km a full tank. I seriously don't understand how new sparkplugs and new oil can make such a massive difference, but it has. My car has only 54,000kd on it and is in top condition.

Unfortunately, the car is sold and the guy is coming to pick it up in 20 minutes. I am now regretting selling it but now I have a chance to get an S3 instead of my current S2.

Hey mate, I posted your carsales link in the members ebay link section because it was such a shame to sell the beauty, 17k was too cheap. hope you get another 380 mate. Im now getting 450k's in a tank which im reasonably happy with, but will be going to get my sparks done this week or next.

edit; filled up 59.99 litres today, wouldn't go in anymore and had to spill. did 569KMS, (400) hwy. and am proud of my record...:D, haven't reset the trip computer and it says ill do 600kms on a full tank, ill be doing only city driving so ill see if it actually does 600KMS, because every time i fill up, i reset it, drive and get ave 14.5L, so ill see if leaving it changes anything LOL, currently @ 11.1

hi Guys,

VRX380 - check you average speed also to cross reference with the fuel consumption. I am usually perfect on the long stretches but City driving not so impressive.

Had my battery done on Wednesday - it just died at 5pm. so as I had my computer reset and i checked my fuel consumption back home... not impressive at all average speed 22.5km/h with 19.9L /100km... but considering walking speed its just cool - i am doing about 14.4l/100km over a week time - 80%city with the rest on the weekend a bit faster travel.

cheers,
m

Just filled up - 426km for 55 litres, average speed 46km/h. 12.9l/100km (dash told me 13.0, so pretty close). Thsi was a tank of vortex 95, and I just filled with E10 to see if there's any difference - first ever tank was 12.8 on standard ULP, so will be interesting to see the differences, and the route to and from work has only slightly changed, so that should make little difference to the results.

Well.. Currently at 11.8 from 10.0 a week ago.. filled up few days ago, started @ 55KPH ave speed when i filled up and said ill do 600kms.. @ 187KMS done 11.8L per/100km, 350KM left............. ohwell hope i can maintain it under 12.3 and i should be happy. .1 seems to go up everytime i run the engine cold, straight away.

Last tank of E10 returned 13.4. So that's about 4% worse than the other tanks, and E10 is 4c cheaper per litre (so about 3% cheaper), so E10 or ULP will be the go from now on.

Refilled last week. 45K average, 420KM, 12.5L per 100K. 10K left. 59L used. 59L filled.

JC, what is your avg KM reading?

JC, what is your avg KM reading?
Every tank has been between 44 and 48 avg speed. Current is on 51 and showing 13.1 l/100km for the 130 odd km so far this tank.

Did 450kms on 3/4 of a tank. Loving it ATM

Going Sydney - Wangaratta and back over next few days - will keep careful track and post results next week

From Wangaratta

Nice drive down on Cruise Control most of the way - adjusted so GPS was reading the speed limit - ie 110 most of the way, with speedo showing about 117. Speed check overhead radar just south of Wodonga corrsponded exactly with GPS.

The result from trip computer was 9.1 l/100k at average speed of 101.7 kmh over 632 km. Of course the trip computer doesn't know I am running LPG, where the actual full to full results gave 10.5 l/100 - 16% higher than petrol which is better than I would expect - usually in my mind say LPG 20% less energy per litre than ULP.

First half of trip - lunch at Gundagai - indicated 8.8 l/100, but in later I had some "finger" trouble with Tiptronic on long down hill run and left it in 4th for a long time afterwards - dumb!

Will be more careful on return run next week! :)

GPS vs Odo pretty good - ODO about 1.5 % more, compared to to speedo indicating 6% high

T

From Wangaratta

Nice drive down on Cruise Control most of the way - adjusted so GPS was reading the speed limit - ie 110 most of the way, with speedo showing about 117. Speed check overhead radar just south of Wodonga corrsponded exactly with GPS.

The result from trip computer was 9.1 l/100k at average speed of 101.7 kmh over 632 km. Of course the trip computer doesn't know I am running LPG, where the actual full to full results gave 10.5 l/100 - 16% higher than petrol which is better than I would expect - usually in my mind say LPG 20% less energy per litre than ULP.

First half of trip - lunch at Gundagai - indicated 8.8 l/100, but in later I had some "finger" trouble with Tiptronic on long down hill run and left it in 4th for a long time afterwards - dumb!

Will be more careful on return run next week! :)

GPS vs Odo pretty good - ODO about 1.5 % more, compared to to speedo indicating 6% high

T

Nice to hear mate, thanks for your accurateness :), well i filled up today, 59.06L filled with 98RON, results were as:
41.5K average speed. 13L per 100K. 420KMS with 20km to spare. Im driving like a nanny with 2 walking sticks atm and so far so good. 30KMS and still not moving telling me it's got 460KM to go :D it's not budging from 13L per 100kM either..

Also a question, I've been using insnt fuel computer lately and when I don use the throttle at all, I still get 2.2-2.8L ? Is that normal?

Thanks guys!

Mine is currently sitting on 397km travelled and 50.7 litres used for an average of 12.7l/100km. Wonder if the new 19s will affect it (rolling diameter is the same as the 17s I had, but 19s are heavier)?

I remember when I picked the car up, it had a travelled distance of 5000km (ie hadn't been reset for a while), and average fuel showed 11.3 - must have been a real grandpa driver.

lol when I picked up mine. It read 14.4, apparentl sitting at the dealerships for a while.. Lead foot tyrekickers? And everytime I seem to reset I get 14+ even if I drive gramps. So I haven't reset it after my hwy driving..

I've seen mine in the 20's around inner Sydney where we live. Especially if a lot of CBD and back (4k round trip) in peak hour with the A/C on, so some ~9 on a "grandpa" drive down ther freeway is a pleasant change!

In regards to throttle off the lowest I saw on "instant" was about 0.3, but only when using tiptronic back to 4th to hold speed on long down hill runs. As the V8's are on at Winton this week there was lots of police prescence on the Hume!

Struggling lately to get Mid 11s-12s with feathering it around, 85% highway 15% Town/City. Ranging from 480-550 at best.
New tyres and service coming, so should be back around the 580-600 mark.

'95 Executive V6 manual, with 246,000kms on the clock, the other day after a week of typical driving I filled up with 51.19 litres and 529 kms on the trip meter.

From Wangaratta

Nice drive down on Cruise Control most of the way - adjusted so GPS was reading the speed limit - ie 110 most of the way, with speedo showing about 117. Speed check overhead radar just south of Wodonga corrsponded exactly with GPS.

The result from trip computer was 9.1 l/100k at average speed of 101.7 kmh over 632 km. Of course the trip computer doesn't know I am running LPG, where the actual full to full results gave 10.5 l/100 - 16% higher than petrol which is better than I would expect - usually in my mind say LPG 20% less energy per litre than ULP.

First half of trip - lunch at Gundagai - indicated 8.8 l/100, but in later I had some "finger" trouble with Tiptronic on long down hill run and left it in 4th for a long time afterwards - dumb!

Will be more careful on return run next week! :)

GPS vs Odo pretty good - ODO about 1.5 % more, compared to to speedo indicating 6% high

T

Back to Sydney from Wang today. Same procedure with cruise set for GPS to be at speed limit.

Trip computer said 9.3 l/100 over 642 km with average speed of 104.2 - we had a good run with little traffic!

I am on LPG, where fuel added/used (full to full) was 77.25 litre, giving 12.05 litre/100 which is worse than on the way down there or an average of 11.4 over the entire journey, compared to the trip computer average of 9.2 over entire trip - or a 24% penalty for LPG energy density compared to ULP - close the the truth I think!

T

Currently sitting at 15.1L per 100KM and realized today my fuel gauge drops everytime i go up a 2km hill, which is a daily route home. tried calling my mechanic to book in for a test, not picking up..

isnt break time 12-12;30?~!?

Currently sitting at 15.1L per 100KM and realized today my fuel gauge drops everytime i go up a 2km hill, which is a daily route home. tried calling my mechanic to book in for a test, not picking up..

isnt break time 12-12;30?~!?

I used to park my car on the steep driveway of a friends place, every day, and soon noticed the angle was throwing my nice economy right out. Regardless of where I was in the current tank, I could never recover that loss fully. So I parked on the road instead and never saw that again. It was showing that my fuel was running out faster than it was, so I guess the fuel sensor is near the front of the tank. Could be a similar thing that you're experiencing.

I used to park my car on the steep driveway of a friends place, every day, and soon noticed the angle was throwing my nice economy right out. Regardless of where I was in the current tank, I could never recover that loss fully. So I parked on the road instead and never saw that again. It was showing that my fuel was running out faster than it was, so I guess the fuel sensor is near the front of the tank. Could be a similar thing that you're experiencing.

yeah i think so too, but the way down, (obviously downhill) i seem to recover it, but the only reason why is i throttle for less than 1Km all up then 2-3km with no throttle so...

and i realized why they weren't picking up.

queens bday
hurray.

Drove to Melbourne over the weekend from Queanbeyan NSW. Filled up in Qbn, had to drive through Canberra then to Yass to get to the Hume highway. Cruise control on most of the way with stops in Gundagai and Aubury, filled up at Kalkaloo just outside Melbourne which is 638k's. Still had just under 1/4 of a tank left, trip computer said I still had 90km to go before empty. Instant fuel reading stayed steady on around 8 l/100K the whole way.

My average l/100K is exactly 11, I haven't reset it for 6 months, that is mostly Canberra driving with 2 Melbourne trips and a few coast trips. Not too bad I reckon.

Have been driving my TL manual for a few months now and it has settled around 11. Average speed about 40. It seems to vary alot at constant load, from 6 to 9 at 80 in 5th, level road and constant speed. I think ignition is weak and am looking at earthing upgrade and replacing plugs.

And I usually fill tank when it has shown light and put in 55litres , so about 550kms per tank.

Does better than mine..

Ended up with 15.4L per 100K. 39.5KM average speed. 1/5 WOT. 91RON fueled. 394KM done and filled 60.4 L.

I really think i should reset, do a hwy trip and not reset it. whenever i come back from a big long trip, fill up to full, average fuel sitting @ 10.5l, same driving style around the city, i seem to get 500+KMs. 395 is lame.

I put in 61.1 litres today (display showing 10ks remaining - haven't seen less than that), at 601 kms. That's the most fuel I've put in, but I once got 614kms from a tank (which was also with 61L). And this, today, is BP 95 which is all I use now.
Just for trivia sake, my best ever economy was 9.43 - and worst was 12.78 (all motorway driving, no city or heavy traffic, etc).

Country around 620km, city 420km