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matt1128
16-05-2011, 04:44 PM
Bit of an interesting situation, wondering if anyone can give me advice.

CV boots split on our TS V6 wagon about 5000kms ago. Forgot to check them for a while, when I did I discovered the joints were full of grit. Shortly after we're getting this clicking sound from somewhere in the front when turning, especially when taking off but also on harder turns & full lock. So I figure CV joints are way bad, to the point we should put new drive shafts in, so we put the wagon into a certain shop. It's actually a servo where a relative works. They have a reputation for doing a good job, but not ripping people off doing things that really don't need doing. Wagon comes back with relative at the end of the day, she says that the shop just put new CV boots on as they reckon the joints were fine. I'm wary, as I know we'd run about 3000kms with very little grease in the CVs and a lot of grit.

We know the mechs never test drove the car as the front brake discs are shuddering after KTAS had previously stuffed up a machining, and they never picked that up. There's some story that in general the shop reckons that since it is such an old car it's not worth spending much money on to fix. Well the clicking was still there right after the car came back from the shop. It's worse now. Front end clicks on left or right turn, on take off, full lock, and when turning in reverse it sounds more like a grinding. I say the drive shafts really need doing, but other family members reckon "nah, the servo know what they're doing, must be something else they missed". I'm only a google mechanic, so I can't be certain.

If the clicking's not the CVs, what else could it be? Is there something else I'm missing? I can take a recording if anyone can help identify the problem.

Unfortunately I can't go slamming the servo shop yet, as "we need to give them another chance" etc, and it is the workplace of a relative that we trust. I'm a bit wary, would rather take it to Mal but don't have much say in the matter. Any help?

crackajnr
16-05-2011, 04:50 PM
I think you need to slam the garage it is definatly the outer cv joint that need replacing not just the boot.

DeanoTS
16-05-2011, 05:05 PM
Um sounds like the trustworthy servo is not so trustworthy, what did you pay just to have the boots replaced? I replaced both drive shafts on one of my cars, $120 each from auto1 and I fitted the drive shafts myself, that clicking sound sure sounds like the CV's are stuffed. Thats stupid if they say the car is too old not worth spending money on, thats only up to the customer not the mechanic, its not worth you wasting your money on a mechanic that doesn't know what there doing. Just buy the drive shafts yourself from say from auto1 and get another mechanic to fit them, steer clear from that place that fitted your boots, they are incompentent as they should have driven the car to start with.

matt1128
16-05-2011, 07:20 PM
lol Yeah, I figured you guys would be opinionated about the servo as well. Well, lets say we drop that point for now, it won't get anywhere.

I can get new drive shafts for $95 a side, possibly less from another supplier whom I have not yet contacted. Mal mentioned that just doing the CVs kinda isn't worth it for the cost and effort, and I'm inclined to agree. Rather replace the whole drive shafts.

The point is, is there any likely possibility that it could be something else? Tie rods perhaps?

DeanoTS
16-05-2011, 07:28 PM
lol Yeah, I figured you guys would be opinionated about the servo as well. Well, lets say we drop that point for now, it won't get anywhere.

I can get new drive shafts for $95 a side, possibly less from another supplier whom I have not yet contacted. Mal mentioned that just doing the CVs kinda isn't worth it for the cost and effort, and I'm inclined to agree. Rather replace the whole drive shafts.

The point is, is there any likely possibility that it could be something else? Tie rods perhaps?
Honestly I have no idea how those particular things work, but it comes up in a google search for something like "clicking NOT CVs". Like I said I call myself a google mechanic, but it's a bit more than that really - I actually have a fair amount of mechanical ability and good intuition - I just haven't learned all the finer details of the magna's drivetrain and steering systems yet. In any case my opinion alone doesn't seem to count for much. If the tie rod ends are worn they wont really make a sound, just a little slop in the steering, the only thing I can think of is that you may have extra wide wheels and they are scrapping on something when you turn, but i really think it the CV's, how many K's has the car done? I was stupid a fews ago and bought second hand CV's from a wreckers, they sounded fine for a month or so then they started clicking like crazy.

DeanoTS
16-05-2011, 07:32 PM
lol Yeah, I figured you guys would be opinionated about the servo as well. Well, lets say we drop that point for now, it won't get anywhere.

I can get new drive shafts for $95 a side, possibly less from another supplier whom I have not yet contacted. Mal mentioned that just doing the CVs kinda isn't worth it for the cost and effort, and I'm inclined to agree. Rather replace the whole drive shafts.

The point is, is there any likely possibility that it could be something else? Tie rods perhaps? I'm sorry about my opinon about the servo you went to but I, we, were only going on what you told us about them.

kempeowen
21-05-2011, 08:25 AM
Front end clicks on left or right turn, on take off, full lock, and when turning in reverse it sounds more like a grinding.If the clicking's not the CVs, what else could it be? Is there something else I'm missing?

I had similar and it was strut top mounts, just a possibilty

Sparky
21-05-2011, 09:24 AM
Replace drive shaft as it sounds the cv joint are stuff. If the clicking or grinding noise is still presecnce after drive shaft replacement then look for other possibles :)

matt1128
22-05-2011, 08:18 PM
Thanks guys, I am 98% sure it's the CVs but thought having a second opinion would help. I'm trying to get a video to be absolutely certain, but friends keep borrowing the car and trailer so it hasn't been in much for the last week and a half!

Min
15-09-2012, 02:53 PM
I just got new front tyres fitted today on my TS and the guy said I have a broken tie rod end on the drivers side and thats why the tyre is wearing out the way it did. He already had the wheel back on the car before he told me this.
My car makes a clicking when I turn left (I think its left). I stuck my head under the car when I got home to have a look. The tie rod looks ok but the cv drive shaft boot is broken. I will have to have a good look when I get a chance.
What do you ppl think it will be? Driveshaft or tie rod that makes the noise? I should have the answer tommorrow when I have a good look at it with the wheel off.

Sorry to bring a old thread back to life and hijack it with my questions. I thought my question might fit in here without opening a new thread.

magnaman89
15-09-2012, 08:05 PM
clicking will be cvs
tie rod is an easy job just best to get wheel alinement after you do it
where in vic are you

Min
15-09-2012, 08:10 PM
I`m in Melton.

magnaman89
15-09-2012, 08:16 PM
your better off getting new cvs .
i was going to offer help fitting the cvs and tie rod but you to far away