Hey all, I did a search but didn't come up with much useful info.

I am gonna be doin a manual conversion to my car this weekend coming and I need a clutch, problem is, I don't know what gearbox I have, 3lt or 3.5lt, and I need a new clutch.

Are the clutches (ie clutch kits) all the same? I bought an Exedy HD clutch off of a mate who had it for his TH sports, which was a 3.5, however I have a feeling the box I have is originally out of a TE.

Will this clutch fit?

3.0L 225mm
3.5L 230mm
3.8L 240mm
Evo 6-9 240mm

Flywheel will fit them all, just requires machining to suit.

All of them will work, but they each have different power tolerances, flywheel will need machining no matter which clutch you go. If you go 240mm you'll need to machine a step into the flywheel.

To avoid complication, the 230mm HD is best.

What if the flywheel is bigger than said clutch, ie new clutch is smaller than old one? Will this still work or do I need a clutch to suit the flywheel?

3.0 flywheel will take the 225 and 230mm clutch no worries, machine the flywheel as normal and you will be good to go

The Evo will fit but there is slightly more needed than just stepping the flywheel

3.0 flywheel will take the 225 and 230mm clutch no worries, machine the flywheel as normal and you will be good to go

The Evo will fit but there is slightly more needed than just stepping the flywheel

So what you are saying is that an Xtreme HD clutch part no. KMI24003HD is right for my application?

http://catalogue.xtremeclutch.com.au/catalogue.htm

This is where I'm getting my info from.

They seem to only list 225mm for the 4cyl and 3.0 V6s or 240mm for the 3.5 V6s, no 230mm size?

http://catalogue.xtremeclutch.com.au/catalogue.htm

This is where I'm getting my info from.

They seem to only list 225mm for the 4cyl and 3.0 V6s or 240mm for the 3.5 V6s, no 230mm size?

I have tried to tell these idiots that the 230mm is the correct one and the 225 is correct for the 3.0, but they knew better apparently, as did Exedy until they got a few claims and then amended their listings to reflect the correct listings lol

APparently Extreme are a good unit, pity they do not deal with many people though as I was wanting to become a dealer for the clutch kits but the pre requirements were just plain stupid

Another point that shOuls be made, a 240mm clutch will rub on the bellhousing unless it is filed down a little.

Another point that shOuls be made, a 240mm clutch will rub on the bellhousing unless it is filed down a little.

You should really re-write that to remove the ambiguity. I know what you mean but others may very well file down their clutch having read that.

The clutch I have is Definitly 240mm. Just measured it.

Anyone need one? Seeing as it would probably be a **** to fit into my gearbox...

The clutch I have is Definitly 240mm. Just measured it.

Anyone need one? Seeing as it would probably be a **** to fit into my gearbox...

I've got one in with my 3.0 litre gearbox and it went in fine..

Some mods will need to be made to the flywheel to get it to fit, that's all -

http://www.joshuaburford.com/clutch%20change/IMG_20101002_115602.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/clutch%20change/IMG_20101002_115608.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/clutch%20change/IMG_20101002_132928.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/clutch%20change/IMG_20101002_132939.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/clutch%20change/IMG_20101002_133002.jpg

http://www.joshuaburford.com/clutch%20change/IMG_20101002_155859.jpg

What clutch did you buy and what condition is it in? I might be interested.

What clutch did you buy and what condition is it in? I might be interested.

He shouldn't need to sell it though :|

I don't see why it won't fit.

Well at the moment the flywheel is basically flat.

Where did you get yours done as I will need to do the same to mine or I'll just have to go buy another clutch.

Is it Exedy or Xtreme?


"240mm" doesn't necessarily mean you have to machine the flywheel, but the Exedy 240mm clutch specifically the springs poke into the flywheel. If you got the Xtreme clutch you'll have to test fit it yourself. Also note the clutch discs have a direction, make sure its the correct way around.

So you machine a 5mm wide, 3mm deep lip on the inside of the flywheel to clear it. This worked great for me.


Also it does very slightly rub the bellhousing, you can see this i Posted a thread about it, the pink paint came onto the bellhousing, this caused me some dramas as well. a slight filing will probably fix that liek Life said, it was only very slight. I suspect this is what cause the clutch to stick slightly and whine very occasionally if I slowed right down without putting the clutch in early enough. Drove fine in normal driving.

It's an Xtreme clutch, not Exedy.

OK well - there should be no qualms making it fit, but you might have to determine for yoruself if you need to cut a step, etc.


So you'll first have to get the flywheel out (or borrow one to compare) and then see what needs to be done.



The "240mm" part of the disc is not issue at all (the flywheel is even bigger again) - the issue was the inside spring assembly hitting the flywheel as the inside hole wasnt big enough in diameter.. but the xtreme design may be different.


So in short: just go ahead with it!

I can't comment on the Xtreme clutches, I would say just sit the clutch onto the flywheel the correct way that you need it and if it fouls on anything you'll have to get a step machined in as seen in the first couple of pics that I posted.

The same place that machines your flywheel will be able to machine a step in as well.

OK well - there should be no qualms making it fit, but you might have to determine for yoruself if you need to cut a step, etc.


So you'll first have to get the flywheel out (or borrow one to compare) and then see what needs to be done.



The "240mm" part of the disc is not issue at all (the flywheel is even bigger again) - the issue was the inside spring assembly hitting the flywheel as the inside hole wasnt big enough in diameter.. but the xtreme design may be different.


So in short: just go ahead with it!


Haha yea it's easy enough to do it, but I'm doing it on Saturday and if something goes pear shaped, I will be ****ed when I need the car come Monday morning and it's sitting on the lift without a trans...

Haha yea it's easy enough to do it, but I'm doing it on Saturday and if something goes pear shaped, I will be ****ed when I need the car come Monday morning and it's sitting on the lift without a trans...

Does this mean that you're taking it all apart, getting the flywheel machined etc and put it all back together on Saturday?

No the flywheel is already out. I'm getting the surface machined today.

Neo, can you answer this for me: When you look at the friction plate, you have the springs in the centre, and one side of centre area sticks out further than the other side.

Which of these sides is the side you face towards the flywheel?

If the flywheel is already out.. you can check it now.. and check all the clearance ahead of Saturday


So get the clutch disc. make sure you locate the correct "engine side" (usually one of them is marked t/m side) and put it up against the flywheel, see if the friction surface comes in contact nicely or not.

Can't recall exactly what side goes up against the flywheel, from memory it was the shallow side. Which is indicated from the pictures I posted, however.. that's the opposite as to what Lathiat has stated. In my case I would have put the T/M side to the "transmission"

The clutch plate will when looking across it have one side sticking out further than the other side, ie the centre sticks out further. This side MUST face into the pressure plate

The issue is the rivets that hold the centre to the metal spring the friction material is the bonded to, as it starts to wear, these rivets hit the flywheel and will wear thorugh, all of a sudden no clutch

Mal,

Is this the side that is labelled "T/M" side? I only ask because from memory it was the other way around on mine hence the need for machining, because if you flipped the clutch disc around in fit fine without machining but that seemed silly.

No argument with your premise (actaully thats kindof funny), only in wondering if it is the labelled side.

Trent

Mal,

Is this the side that is labelled "T/M" side? I only ask because from memory it was the other way around on mine hence the need for machining, because if you flipped the clutch disc around in fit fine without machining but that seemed silly.

No argument with your premise (actaully thats kindof funny), only in wondering if it is the labelled side.

Trent

My 240mm clutch wouldn't fit either way. The inside diameter of the clutch disc is wider, as well as the outside diameter. Either way, Mal confirmed that the spring pack faces away from the motor. The spring pack is the part that sticks out the most.

Just for anyone doing it in the future, I thought id revive this thread and state that the 240mm "Xtreme HD clutch" that I bought DID NOT require the lip to be machined in. The EXEDY does.

the clutch that come out of my 2000 tj sports was 240mm, and the evo 9 factory 240mm clutch plate and pressure plate fitted without modification (no lip machining required). the clutch that came out of my 2002 tj ralliart was also 240mm.

maybe tj sports/vrx/ralliart have a bigger centre in the pressure plate and 240mm clutch as standard. i did read somehwere that the ralliart did

Can anyone confirm a ralliart stock clutch is 240mm? before i go buying a 230... i need to know it fits.