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mrnizmo
16-07-2004, 09:06 PM
Hi has anybody installed a set of KYB shockers to their Magna's Yet? (3rd Gen).

I am curious as to what shocker to choose.

KYB?
Koni Sports?
Monroe?
Gabriel?

Any info would be great.

Thanks
John

BSA-King
17-07-2004, 09:31 AM
im using monroe gas shockers and there good.
i havent heard to many good reviews on Gabriel shockers though, but dont take my word for it.

WhiteDevil
17-07-2004, 09:51 AM
I've got Monroe GT Gas, it's good enough for me, I think the money you pay for Koni's you can cheaper KYB or Monroe and get a Unichip or Greddy for your car.

GT gas is good on corners, it's very firm and great control.

Over a single bump, it is a very solid thud sound, good dampening. But when then there's multiple bumps, the rebound can get a bit harsh.

meansolara
19-07-2004, 04:05 PM
RPW put KYB on mine a month or so ago, and no regrets. Like redav, only have standard shocks to compare with - and I did the suspension as a 'job lot' so hard to isolate effect of new shocks.

BlackVRX
19-07-2004, 11:12 PM
Speaking of Monroes, has anyone put the sensa-tracs in their car? Are they any good?

FamilyWagon
23-07-2004, 06:16 PM
I have got the Monroe GT Gas in my KH Wagon and they seem to be a good shock for not much money. Only complaint is as WhiteDevil said, when you go over harsh bumps or over pot holes, they are very noisy and bangy. I just came back from Merimbula where the roads arn't real good and the car really started to give me the ****s with the amount of loud noise that came from the shocks. They are also a firmer ride than the stockers.

Hey Mitsman. Are the Koni's a quiet shock? All i am after now is a quiet shocker because the Monoe's are too noisy for my liking in a luxury car. What did you pay for them?

Thanks mate.

tooSlow
23-07-2004, 07:24 PM
KONI ... KONI ... KONI ... KONI ...

These have to be the best shocks!! Luv em.

teK--
23-07-2004, 10:15 PM
Word to KONI :D 30,000Kms later and they still feel excellent. Will pull them out in another 15,000 and bump up the rebound a bit to compensate for them wearing.

MadMik
25-07-2004, 08:15 PM
No noise issues at all - they are quiet like factory and I have the full sports externally adjustable models which are great for adjusting the front shocks.

You can get the cheaper Koni's which are non adjustable which are still a great bargain although the KYB are my second choice.
Yep i had pedders allround ( springs and sprortsgas {monroe's}) didn't really have a drama with them until about 70,000km later when started to bottom out. Now running king springs superlows F and lows R, and KYB struts on each corner and they are a nice firm ride.
But hey has anyone found that with lowered springs that they get a rather loud thud from road bumps??
Adam :flame:

FamilyWagon
25-07-2004, 08:29 PM
Hey Adam.

Thats what i'm trying to find out. I have got kings all round and Monroe GT Gas and yeah road noise is as noisy as hell especially when you go over a rapid sucsession of bumps all the thudding and banging you get.

If it is the shocks which i think is more the case then i am prepared to change them. Just looking into Koni's at the moment. Need to speak to a suspension expert that isnt biased on selling a particular type of shock.

stacky
02-08-2004, 07:45 PM
I got kings an GT gas not noisy (yet) but a bit rougher on ordinary roads at hi speed over bout 150kmh overall pretty happy. love those corners :D

teK--
02-08-2004, 09:03 PM
Geez man at 70,000Kms most dampers (especially Pedders/Monroe) are going to wear out. Even KONIs are good for only around 100,000Kms before they are swiss cheese. Sensatracs are a very average budget damper but they do the job until they leak or become soft as marshmallows.

mullo
04-08-2004, 08:29 AM
while suspension is the topic, i've been wondering how long shocks/springs should last in average driving conditions.
My car has done 82 000 km whithout a suspension change and has recently started to make noises, and i'm not sure if this is remature or not.
any advide would be great guys. thanks in advance

WhiteDevil
04-08-2004, 02:09 PM
all depends on driving style and terrain. It wouldn't hurt checking your shocks if they've had 82k km on them. You said they started to make noise, so what sort of noise? eg. knocking, hissing, etc...? if it's knocking, you need to pay attention to it immediately as it could be an indication of shock failure and is bottoming your springs. if this is the case, if you run your fingers along the upper or lower coils of your spring, you should be able to feel fouling of the rubber coating. Check your ride height and compare it with another magna of your model and setup.
If you have time, the best way to check is to remove one of the struts for closer examination. It'll take a good few hours though to put everything back.

In my opinion, 60k is probably a good time to change shocks if you want to ensure that your suspension is in good shape.

MadMik
05-08-2004, 08:14 PM
Yeah guys checked out my suspension. Took off front wheels and checked out the struts and as i guessed the bump stops/ boots had been taken off and obviously they forgot to advise me then and there that it would be good time to replace them so it could be done without a second booking and labour hours. Apparently most brand of bump stops for your vehicle will suffice, duration will depend on quality.
So all i can say is remove one of your front wheels and have a good look at the condition of your bump stops and boots, if there a crumbling then it's definately time to get some new ones.
Adam :flame:

WhiteDevil
06-08-2004, 12:56 PM
the springs would have bottomed (creates knock sound) before the bump stop hits the cylinder on the shock.

teK--
06-08-2004, 05:44 PM
the springs would have bottomed (creates knock sound) before the bump stop hits the cylinder on the shock.

It should be the other way around; if your springs were bottoming out (spring bind) you would be killing them before long as it causes massive metal fatigue. The bump stops are there to stop the suspension travel before spring bind or damper bottom out occurs.