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Greetings All.

Ok, sadly Ive put my twin turboed MIVEC idea to rest (for now :badgrin: ). So ive hit a cross roads, before I start doing anything, Im unsure whether I should try and get a six speed manual N/A MIVEC to work, or If i should try and twin turbo my 3.0L....

What do you guys think?
Cheers,
--Tonba
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umm.. 6spd? I was under the impression that the only 6sp was the AWD one from the later seriest GTO/3000GT which eva u wanna call them? Might be worth while looking at transplanting the turbo setup from one of them?

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Greetings All.

Ok, the 3000GT block wont fit, mounting brackets dont like up. Ive already looked into it. As with the six speed, Ive done a bit of research and aparrently the EVO 7-8 six speed might mesh with block perfectly.

Cheers,
--Tonba
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Greetings All.

Ok, sadly Ive put my twin turboed MIVEC idea to rest (for now :badgrin: ). So ive hit a cross roads, before I start doing anything, Im unsure whether I should try and get a six speed manual N/A MIVEC to work, or If i should try and twin turbo my 3.0L....

What do you guys think?
Cheers,
--Tonba
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You wont get a 6G72 TT in your car if it's a 3rd gen...so you only have one option left

Edit: lol I should've read the rest of the thread first...soz! haha

so doesn't the mivec fit in the 3rd gen? i would say start with the best possible building block if money isn't a worry.

so doesn't the mivec fit in the 3rd gen? i would say start with the best possible building block if money isn't a worry.

Yes the Mivec is a bolt in

so then which engine doesn't fit in TT?

You wont get a 6G72 TT in your car if it's a 3rd gen...so you only have one option left

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Greetings All.

The 3000GT doesnt fit in, due to different bolt patterns. I would have to get either RPW's twin turbo set or I would have to get custom manifolds done.

Cheers,
--Tonba
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im sure someone could make them for no more than 1000 bucks, with a warrentee aswell.

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Greetings All.

The main problem I will have is with the ECU; that it is made for an auto. If i can some how work it with a manual without going full aftermart ECU, Ill do it. But if i cant...looks like a turbo then :doubt:

Cheers,
--Tonba
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i heard its been done, but its a little buggy. whats wrong with a new computer?

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Greetings All.

Well the problem is that they are kinda illigal, not to mention VERY expensive.

Cheers,
--Tonba
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Greetings All.

Well the problem is that they are kinda illigal, not to mention VERY expensive.

Cheers,
--Tonba
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Get it properly engineered, which you're going to have to if you do the transplant anyway, and it's not illegal.

Edit: I don't mean programmable ECU.

If you're going to TT a mivec..then you will have to get some sort of ecu mods done whether you like it or not unfortunately mate.

To be honest, I'd start at the mivec conversion initially and get it running..and then work from there.

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Greetings All.

Yes it will be fully engineered. BUT, Killbilly has looked into an aftermarket ECU, and in NSW they are illigal. You cant regester you car with one.

Cheers,
--Tonba
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hide it well and i reckon you would be right. use the std loom and even paint the ecu so it doesnt look like anything special

i heard its been done, but its a little buggy. whats wrong with a new computer?
Heard what's been done?

Meh has done the math and the numbers don't stack up. It's going to cost two thirds the price of a TT kit for half the gains. It needs a full EMS too, not just piggy back.

How does one go about getting it engineered properly?


If you're going to TT a mivec..then you will have to get some sort of ecu mods done whether you like it or not unfortunately mate.
He's brushed the TT Mivec idea.

you would ring a automotive engineer and book her in, like a rwc.

the auto to manual conversion with stock ECU is what im talking about

Well, seeing as though half the EVO drivetrain went into the AWD, there's a chance that their gearbox might match up.

hmm interesting. but i doubt it

i'd go NA style cos EVERYONE's got a turbo.....hehe j/k :D

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Greetings All.

Would it be possible to convert the MIVEC to manual without going full aftermarket? Mitsiman? Killbilly? Everyones input is much appreciated! :D

Thanks Everyone,
--Tonba
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go full aftermarket ecu on the Mivec with this!!

http://www.rpw.com.au/Photos/Qaud%20Pictures/Pajero%20V6/Pajero-Top.jpg http://www.rpw.com.au/Photos/Qaud%20Pictures/Pajero%20V6/Pajero-Side.jpg http://www.rpw.com.au/Photos/Qaud%20Pictures/Pajero%20V6/Pajero-Front.jpg

6 throttle bodies!! ohhh yeah!

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Greetings All.

Would it be possible to convert the MIVEC to manual without going full aftermarket? Mitsiman? Killbilly? Everyones input is much appreciated! :D

Thanks Everyone,
--Tonba
++++yeah i reckon it would be easy to hook the manual up to the auto chip, just put in false values on the auto lines, if i get some spare time in the next week i'll see if i can find the differences between the auto ECU and the manual one, besides controlling the gears, if it doesnt use gearbox feedback to control the engine then just putting a dummy load on those outputs will suffice
cheers
Al

yeah i reckon it would be easy to hook the manual up to the auto chip, just put in false values on the auto lines, if i get some spare time in the next week i'll see if i can find the differences between the auto ECU and the manual one, besides controlling the gears, if it doesnt use gearbox feedback to control the engine then just putting a dummy load on those outputs will suffice
cheers
Al
Well, in the third gens it's all supposed to be a closed loop ECU - Tranny - Engine. So, if something's not right, it know's about it. Would be interesting to see what's possible. Maybe just leave the auto in to boot all hooked up with nowhere to go :bowrofl:

Maybe just leave the auto in to boot all hooked up with nowhere to go :bowrofl:

it would make on hell of a unique boot install if u did! lol

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Yup...I must admit...that would be DAMN funny :P



yeah i reckon it would be easy to hook the manual up to the auto chip, just put in false values on the auto lines, if i get some spare time in the next week i'll see if i can find the differences between the auto ECU and the manual one, besides controlling the gears, if it doesnt use gearbox feedback to control the engine then just putting a dummy load on those outputs will suffice
cheers
Al

If you could do that dingo...that would be AWSOME!!
Thanks!

Keep brewing the Ideas people! Thanks!,
--Tonba
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