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TPMagnaSE in need if mods
19-07-2004, 11:16 PM
how the hell do you spin the wheels in a first gen i tried the handbrake and tried the pedal brake and floored it but its got like a rev limiter on it the car just roars up to 2800rpm and doesnt move i wanna smoke em help anyone got pics of a 1st gen smokin

Meph
20-07-2004, 07:48 AM
your car only goes to 2800rpm?

I dunno about spinning the wheels in an auto, with my manual i spin the wheels in the wet when i dont want to (gf tells me off).

Id say it must be your auto holding you back, but im sure you can spin the wheels in an auto if you're really trying. maybe your tyres are just too good (i got home brand on the front of mine until i can afford some toyos)

Dim
20-07-2004, 10:58 AM
Ive seen a pic of TM-SE-RED smoke em up, cant remember where tho, the best i can do at the moment is spin in the wet.

Otiman
20-07-2004, 11:36 AM
maybe you are spinning them but cant feel it. I can with ease in my TP (carby auto) in the wet, and if i try hard enough in the dry, my front tyres are good ($120 a pop), so i think perhaps you associate wheelspin with 'chirping'. Infact its more quiet (at least at the start of a spin) and has the sensation to almost sideways floating, or even rolling back on a steep incline.

As for only being able to rev to 2800 with the brake on, thats normal, keep in mind your engine whilst in gear is working to push the car forward, with the brakes on its like you're pushing up against a wall. There is going to be some resistance from the motor because of the force the brakes are putting on the engine, equal and opposite.

turbo_charade
20-07-2004, 12:40 PM
try rolling around a corner and holding it in 1st and booting it mid corner. see if u get power understeer

BLKMAG
20-07-2004, 12:46 PM
go as fast as you can in reverse then jam it into drive or 1st and give it a boot full :D should spin then and probably break somethin

turbo_charade
20-07-2004, 01:26 PM
:badgrin: it'll spin the teeth right of the gear :P

SG
20-07-2004, 01:47 PM
if it only revs to 2800 try putting thinner oil in it for a while... my car used to only rev to around 3000 no matter how hard i pushed it (unless it was in neutral).. tho this was around the time when i first got it and was only drivin by old women for shopping - so it never saw the second half of the rev gauge anyway :P

PeteW
20-07-2004, 01:56 PM
Tips to 1st gen wheel spin ...

1. have a manual & efi (efi optional) autos cant do **** with out some sort of lube ie water/detergent :P

2. have fight with misses :rant: , then reverse out the drive and dump it

3. give it a boot full and pop the clutch :) works every time

4. heal toe method ( i cant do this after ankle reconstruction ) heal on break toe on accelerator left foot for clutch

seriously i dont have a problem i can even get wheelspin in the dry in 1st while moving say about 30kps just floor it and it let's go no problem, getting it not to spin in 1st and 2nd in the wet now thats the trick, i find method 2 & 3 works best

Pete

AussieFella
20-07-2004, 02:14 PM
I know how you feel :(

I tried spinning the wheels at tafe, and i gave it a bootfull and it just moves forward....maybe my tires are to good....

Matt
20-07-2004, 02:33 PM
maybe my tires are to good....

lol.....i doubt it.... lol

AussieFella
20-07-2004, 03:01 PM
lol, they had been on there only a month when i bought it...

mad lanté
20-07-2004, 06:00 PM
its because because of 2 things....auto and astron.
our engines are crap till 2500rpm there **** house below that and the auto unless u rev it b4 u take off wont help. And wot even u do dont put it in Reverse then in N rev it and in Drive, well u can do it just dont expect ur auto box 2 last very long at all
I can spin mine easy, can even get 2nd gearies cept im not doing it now i got the new toyos and my cluch it on the way out :P :badgrin:

Telemenohpee
20-07-2004, 06:06 PM
if i stall my car up to about that like @ 2500rpm (auto efi) then it makes a slight chirp, but i'd rather it grip :D and with the mid way round a corner thing, is that what you call it! i knew it was understeer of some sort lol

AussieFella
20-07-2004, 06:14 PM
so you need to get the revs to 2500 to get em spinning?

turbo_charade
20-07-2004, 06:20 PM
i think the generel concensus is that u need a clutch to be able to skid the 2.6.

Telemenohpee
20-07-2004, 07:28 PM
nah even at 2500 the 215's dont spin, they make a slight chirp (if u could call it that) when planted.

I think if i put my ****ty 185's back on with no tread it would be no problems....
But yeh i want to preserve these tyres lol, twisties need grip :badgrin:

TH smoker
20-07-2004, 07:42 PM
ask SicVSV6 his seen me smoke'm plenty of times in my TP auto efi (205/15" wheels) and in a TM auto carby!!

i think sometimes it just depends where your trying..........find a good hill and make sure its not ashfelt stuff.........rip on the handbrake and floor it!!!!!!!!!!

Sic VS V6
20-07-2004, 08:04 PM
ask SicVSV6 his seen me smoke'm plenty of times in my TP auto efi (205/15" wheels) and in a TM auto carby!!

i think sometimes it just depends where your trying..........find a good hill and make sure its not ashfelt stuff.........rip on the handbrake and floor it!!!!!!!!!!

lmao......yeah i can vouch for having seen the living hell he put his tm through.....lmao
i think that thsmoker can find a way to smoke ANYTHING.........tis true...lol
smoked the tp wagon a few times pretty good..........
i think the best time he smoked the tm up was the way home from work one day with him...lmfao...
me and thsmoker put it on gas (dodgy brothers) and she never went as good as it use to so we stoped on the way home to put some petty in it and get her goin a bit better and flicked it over to petrol.....or should i say re connected the fuel line lmao......anyways we were drivin home and givin it an absolute floggin as per usual and all these people were flashin us and we didnt think much of it till the car stalls and smoke starts spewin out the air vents quickly followed by the paint peeling on the bonnet.........HAHAHAHAHAHA.....the fuel line split and was leakin petty on the dizzy and up she went..........was funny as hell......maby not at the time but it sure as hell is now.......hehehehehhahahahahaha

TM-SE-RED
20-07-2004, 08:55 PM
i was ripping my old ****ty tyres up bigtime. was the night before i got my mags, not a creature was stirring, cept for this mental burnout. :nuts: hmmm

try laying some diesel on the road, roll ur tyres in it abit before hand... sit in the middle of it... handbrake ON. back to 1st/low in auto. rev as far as the car will let u (this was 3500-4000 for me haha) plant accel. if it dosent wheel spin, ill give u my car. actually... auto... hmm, ill take that last remark back about having my car haha

well... i dont have any trouble spinning the tyres in 1st now hahaha. not 1 bit. as casual as u like rev to 2000. plant accel... spin spin spin! :bowrofl:

turbo_charade
20-07-2004, 09:37 PM
i reckon i could get urs smoking in 2nd :cool:

Dj_Bell
20-07-2004, 09:43 PM
bah, my cars not running great atm and i can get mine to burn thru first and into seccond a bit, all about technique

TM-SE-RED
20-07-2004, 09:51 PM
yeah... i havent actually sat there and revved and tried to pull a burnout at all... if anything its all bin accidental. yeah, i think i could get it going through 2nd too... 3rd would probs b too much to ask for, but ya never know with this car now. i dont know its limits

turbo_charade
21-07-2004, 12:33 PM
ill show you its limites :badgrin:

TM-SE-RED
21-07-2004, 04:43 PM
i'd like to keep my gearbox intact for as long as possible thanks. and my tyres :D

turbo_charade
21-07-2004, 08:41 PM
scared :P

AussieFella
22-07-2004, 04:08 PM
Hey TPmagnaSE...try this:

go down to dick smith and buy a small water pump, it will only cost you about 9 bucks, put a pipe going from the wiper fluid container to the pump and then hook more pipe going from the pump to each of the front wheels. THen connect the red wire on the pump to the positive on the battery, then connect the black to a terminal on a switch, and connect more wire from the other terminal on the switch to the negative on the battery. It will wet your tires and make em spin much easier.

i have attached a diagram.

88Elite
22-07-2004, 04:30 PM
my magna is auto n can only do burnouts in the wet....apply the handbrake n floor it in the wet of course.....u can smoke it up on those metal speed humps in car parks just rest the front wheels on it n handbrake.... breaks traction real easy n smokes up.... :badgrin:

AussieFella
23-07-2004, 02:55 PM
with my above mod, you dont have to wait for a wet day :D

Telemenohpee
18-08-2004, 07:05 PM
gah, i know i'm bringin up an old topic but i went to go rid my tyres of any tread (old wheels + tyres) so i'm rolling around with 17's on the back and 14's on the front. Anyway after a few attempts it seems the concensus is it really needs to be wet, it thundered down here this morn for first time in ages, by time i got back from uni i had to go to work, by time i finihsed work its all dry :cry: i did go on the dirt and that was no problems but thats not what i was after - i did see a supra hammer it round and drift round a roudnabout then absoutley cane it out, but he has lots of power :P

Nick
24-08-2004, 12:56 PM
a supra drifting? sure hes got plenty of power but he also weighs 400 tone which is why small light cars like s13's and 180's are drifters preference.

Telemenohpee
24-08-2004, 04:36 PM
yep it was nice n sideways :) then zoomed off, but yeh they are a bit heavier but also more power, they drift all sorts of cars. check the jun supra driftin vid, its been around a while on the net.

Gav
02-09-2004, 12:56 AM
Bah, Old topic, I know...

Since I've repaired the car, there's bugger all grip for accelleration.

Not good when I'm trying to merge in front of a cement mixer...

So, I can get an Auto EFI to spin the wheels with not many problems...

Telemenohpee
02-09-2004, 06:34 AM
easy spin of wheels nice, what did you fix?
We have finally got some rain past couple of nites, what can i say, pure fun :D and close encounters

Nick
02-09-2004, 09:48 AM
and screw your auto cluuuuutch and stuff

turbo_charade
02-09-2004, 02:55 PM
all yas need now is some extra torque to be able to do it in the dry in a straight line :P

TM-SE-RED
02-09-2004, 02:58 PM
all yas need now is some extra torque to be able to do it in the dry in a straight line :P


torque and charade dont exactly go hand in hand either :bowrofl:

if ya want some torque come c me, ive got some to spare for ya.

Telemenohpee
02-09-2004, 03:06 PM
all yas need now is some extra torque to be able to do it in the dry in a straight line :P

correct! something i dont have :P

Gav
02-09-2004, 08:37 PM
easy spin of wheels nice, what did you fix?
We have finally got some rain past couple of nites, what can i say, pure fun :D and close encounters
*Deep Breath*

Throttle cable, Airbox hose, injectors clean, new radiator and hoses, fuel, air and oil filters, all new fluids, new muffler...
The tyres were only 185s, which probably weren't up to the task...

Telemenohpee
02-09-2004, 08:41 PM
*Deep Breath*

Throttle cable, Airbox hose, injectors clean, new radiator and hoses, fuel, air and oil filters, all new fluids, new muffler...
The tyres were only 185s, which probably weren't up to the task...

Woah, must run a lot better now :D
I think mine needs a radiator flush, new fuel filter, and injector clean. Did you get your injectors cleaned professionally? i used some treatment stuff but no idea if it did anything

Gav
02-09-2004, 08:44 PM
Woah, must run a lot better now :D
I think mine needs a radiator flush, new fuel filter, and injector clean. Did you get your injectors cleaned professionally? i used some treatment stuff but no idea if it did anything
Yeah, I think I got about 40kW outta that...

The injectors were cleaned professionally, but at mates rates.

Gemini
04-09-2004, 06:47 AM
When i used to try to spin the tires in mine, they sort of spun but also hoppd like crazy :nuts: (in the dry)

TM-SE-RED
04-09-2004, 12:32 PM
axle cramp. not good... like, the tyres would spin and then sorta try and grip and the whole car would shake and the front end would hop about? yeah... this isnt good for the car.

mad lanté
04-09-2004, 03:55 PM
axle cramp. not good... like, the tyres would spin and then sorta try and grip and the whole car would shake and the front end would hop about? yeah... this isnt good for the car.
Fix ya shockers and engine mounts and it will spin like a biatch :dancin: .....NOT that i know :nuts: lol

TM-SE-RED
04-09-2004, 04:23 PM
Fix ya shockers and engine mounts and it will spin like a biatch :dancin: .....NOT that i know :nuts: lol


wasn't saying that my car has ever done it. but i know wat it is and i have seen it before. damn its funny. anyone seeing the drifting truck? watch it and youll find out pretty quickly wat axle cramp is haha

anyway, my tyres spin quite easily with an XF's worth of fuel being poured into it lol. no sign of grip if i dont want there to be :P

1G Magna Man
04-09-2004, 05:35 PM
LOL "axle cramp" Its axle tramp you silly sally! :bowrofl:

TM-SE-RED
04-09-2004, 05:52 PM
LOL "axle cramp" Its axle tramp you silly sally! :bowrofl:

forgive me for getting 1 letter wrong :nuts:

1G Magna Man
04-09-2004, 06:00 PM
lol but that one letter changes the whole word!
Don't take it seriously man just having some fun......haha. cramp....

Telemenohpee
04-09-2004, 06:03 PM
Its the new wave of spammers, beware! :P

SG
04-09-2004, 09:03 PM
haha i was reading the posts thinkin.. im sure its axle tramp... or is it really cramp...

i saw a little rx3 at the drags getting axle tramp one time

Magnamatic
04-09-2004, 10:32 PM
haha cramp, my magna gets axle tramp too. Need some better springs or shockers or something. Depending on whats happening, i can spin the wheels and then other occasions she'll get grip and take off with some tramp. Shakes the cheap old thing to pieces :bowrofl: .
Damn interiors are made by sweatshop workers.
If your not spinning wheels, youve obviously got too good tyres on the car, or that poxbox auto is suckin up all your power. Get some nanyangs or kumhows on the car, then youll be spinning! Theyre focused on cost and tyre wear, ie- burnout wheels lol

Gav
05-09-2004, 12:01 AM
I can lend you my spare... ****, that's got no grip!!

I spent most of yesterday evening slipping, and slid twice, because of that tyre. Swapped it to the rear, so it now peachy.

mad lanté
05-09-2004, 11:56 PM
wasn't saying that my car has ever done it. but i know wat it is and i have seen it before. damn its funny. anyone seeing the drifting truck? watch it and youll find out pretty quickly wat axle cramp is haha

anyway, my tyres spin quite easily with an XF's worth of fuel being poured into it lol. no sign of grip if i dont want there to be :P
yer i was refuring to Gemini's comment, just saying the way to fix that problem

Scooter
19-09-2004, 10:08 PM
I just thought i'd stick my 2 bob in here, so he I go.

My friend and I both own Tn's and both have a hell of alot of fun donating rubber to the QLD roads. Firstly my friend ( Sharkey ), his is a manual and extreamly easy to blind and choke the decrepid old people in the crappy camery 2 cars behind with waves of smoke. From stand still with no revs to 3rd gear it will light it up but without the smoke. Plant it in reverse, rev the guts outta first, drop the clutch. A great recipie for smoke from first gear through to fourth. And for mine. I have a Tn SE auto. NOTE: Going in reverse then smashing first will KILL your gear box. I find it easiest ( but not 100% ) to hold the foot brake and have your hand ready on the hand break. Get the revs up so that the rear of your car won't get any lower, take ya foot off the brake, give it a second or two and pull the hand brake. If done right you should obtain wheel spin ( this will not work in " Drive " ). Like I said before, this is just my 2 bob. Give it a go or don't, but for those out there intent on spending more money on rubber than fuel...... It's only illegal if ya get caught. :D

Telemenohpee
20-09-2004, 08:49 AM
worth trying, will put ****ty wheels and tyres on once i get back from uni maybz if i'm not 2 lazy

EDIT: Tried, no such luck *shrugs* I can learn at the next meet ;)

Gemini
29-09-2004, 03:02 PM
With my rebuilt engine, the bastard spins all the time now :shock:

When i take of i have to be gentle. And this is in the dry too.

Still hops a little but im sure it is the suspension. It doesnt do it as much now because when they put the engine in, they replaced a broken engine mount.