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clarky0
26-06-2011, 08:43 PM
Okay so i wanted to make my car sound good. and wasn't to sure how, i looked online and it said something about a catback or cat something haha. I was just wondering would they go on my 98 magna advance and how much are they and could i fit it. If not how much is it to get fitted

Dingers
27-06-2011, 12:17 PM
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=magna+exhaust&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox-a&hs=IpO&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=+site:aussiemagna.com+magna+exhaust&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&fp=6bb6672af19df8e&biw=1320&bih=663

Disciple
27-06-2011, 01:51 PM
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/search.php?searchid=348411

Dingers
27-06-2011, 02:08 PM
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/search.php?searchid=348140

lol fail link

Disciple
27-06-2011, 04:21 PM
lol fail link

Indeed. I dunno wtf happened there. I've edited my post so it works.

Wilson3339
27-06-2011, 04:54 PM
i put a new sports muffler on mine... i think its a cat back or something .. not sure dad took it to a muffler shop without me knowing..... it was a nice surprise haha same week it was lowered too!
but it sounds prime....... and im pretty sure it was under 300 bucks ;)

Dingers
27-06-2011, 05:04 PM
Indeed. I dunno wtf happened there. I've edited my post so it works.

Still dead, I think it's the way AMC search works, probably makes a new search query that expires or something?

Great quote btw lol

Disciple
27-06-2011, 05:17 PM
Must expire, all I did was typed "exhaust" into search. Hard stuff.

clarky0
30-06-2011, 10:04 AM
Thanks. I looked all over the net for it but i couldnt see if it would fit on a magna and how much it would cost.

3.5L_V6_TL_ES
30-06-2011, 06:10 PM
I just went to an exhaust shop and just asked them to put on a sports muffler with a tip. They usually charge 300 or below for the tip and the muffler fitted but I got a bit ripped off (I paid $320 :/ ). But it does sound nice. Make sure you ask the brand that they're going to use on it. Mines a redback and has a nice deep note :)

Dingers
30-06-2011, 10:09 PM
I got a Lukey LR2779 welded on with a stainless steel exhaust tip worth 100 for 250 after paying cash...

This was at Liverpool Exhaust as well which aren't exactly the cheapest place - their work is superb though.

clarky0
01-07-2011, 03:24 PM
I got a Lukey LR2779 welded on with a stainless steel exhaust tip worth 100 for 250 after paying cash...

This was at Liverpool Exhaust as well which aren't exactly the cheapest place - their work is superb though.

Is this legal to do on P's and does it improve my speed?

pwn3d_69er
01-07-2011, 03:27 PM
it is legal, if it is overly loud you will be picked on by police (i know from experience with my lancer), it will help with fuel consumption and give you a nice sound, speed, wont change much there

Dave
01-07-2011, 04:09 PM
Is this legal to do on P's and does it improve my speed?

Ummm what? Improve your speed?

MR SPL
01-07-2011, 04:41 PM
Is this legal to do on P's and does it improve my speed?

If done right you should get an improvement of at least OVER 9000!!!

lol

clarky0
01-07-2011, 05:32 PM
i was asking about the speed because it gets rid of the exhaust fumes quicker and allows more fuel and air to be blown up quicker.
And i think i will just go down to an exhaust shop and ask them about it soon.

altera
01-07-2011, 06:44 PM
Is this legal to do on P's and does it improve my speed?

Yes its legal, as for improving speed you will notice more pick up when you plant it at around 80kph. if they want to charge more than $280 for supply and fitment go somewhere else . dont worry about brand names, mufflers are very similar to one another with a straight through and just differ in sound

If you want a cat back exhaust and not just a muffler, expect to pay around $400 for the muffler shop to make you one with crush bends and above $400 for mandrel bends, mandrel bends are preffered.

Oggy
01-07-2011, 07:28 PM
Speed - ie: power from engine - if you've got an executive model, then it will produce a bit more power with a better muffler.
If you already have a sports or VRX there probably won't be any improvement.

I got the Lukey and recommend it.
Don't get just anything, because some (I think the smaller mufflers) are too loud or drone. Read old posts on here about peoples experiences and pick one of those.

Cat back is not really necessary if the original exhaust is in good order. The factory exhaust is already 2.4" diameter or something, so a 2.5" cat back isn't really an upgrade.

Happy modding!

TiMi
01-07-2011, 08:56 PM
If the police ask, was your old muffler was rusty and you went to an exhaust shop and asked nicely if they could fix it, you didn't know it was a performance improvement, you just wanted a roadworthy safe car, did you say?

clarky0
02-07-2011, 10:17 AM
^Thanks all of you. I think im going to get a lukey muffler. So are all of them the same size and noise or are there different ones i should keep an eye out for?

altera
02-07-2011, 01:06 PM
^Thanks all of you. I think im going to get a lukey muffler. So are all of them the same size and noise or are there different ones i should keep an eye out for?

Not all of them are the same size they differ which in turn creates a different sound, as mentioned above smaller mufflers are louder and larger are generally quieter.

rarner
04-07-2011, 12:47 AM
This is probably a newb question but I have no idea about exhausts. Since I just want a deep heavy sound could I just buy a Redback muffler for example? Would this include the tip or would I have to buy a separate tip? And does it fit on the stock exhaust pipe, just a straight swap with the stock muffler?

clarky0
04-07-2011, 08:41 AM
If you can weld then you can just take your stock muffler out, Cut it open and take out all of the baffle in it, Weld it back up and your good to go. (Wait for confirmation that im right haha)

Dingers
04-07-2011, 10:07 AM
Stock exhaust on everything but Sports/VRX/Ralliart is a trifold design and very restrictive so there's no point messing around with one...

Not sure how good one of them would sound hollowed out lol

pwn3d_69er
04-07-2011, 11:48 AM
Stock exhaust on everything but Sports/VRX/Ralliart is a trifold design and very restrictive so there's no point messing around with one...

Not sure how good one of them would sound hollowed out lol

not very good, my old mate and i did it to his 3L magna and sounded like crap, was better to have no muffler at all than having it on there:)

VRX_000IBS
04-07-2011, 11:52 AM
This is probably a newb question but I have no idea about exhausts. Since I just want a deep heavy sound could I just buy a Redback muffler for example? Would this include the tip or would I have to buy a separate tip? And does it fit on the stock exhaust pipe, just a straight swap with the stock muffler?

Get a muffler and a set of extractors with a tip of personal choice and it should be what your looking for....i payed $800 for my Hurricane Extractors and forget how much my muffler was but i should be selling my Mercury Muffler with a 3 inch dump tip if interested? hope this helps :)

clarky0
05-07-2011, 08:51 AM
What are extractors and why did you pay so much if you can get an exhaust kit for less?

Dragonking
05-07-2011, 09:24 AM
You got extractors, or manifolds coming out of the engine, which lead the flow out of the engine to under the car to around the back, which then goes through a flow cat, and then goes to a centre muffler, which is usually restricted a bit, and then goes all the way down to the rear muffler.
The way pipes turn and move about and restrict in your engine with centre and rear muffler are for sound deadening, and the flow cat, or catalytic converter, is used to reduce toxicity of your exhaust gas.

You get aftermarket exhaust systems to allow better flow, which allows more power as you get rid of exhaust gas faster.

Wilson3339
05-07-2011, 02:24 PM
just goto an exhaust shop and ask for a sports muffler and pick out a nice tip it will cost roughly $250 ...... and trust me you will be very happy with it!

CLuTZ
05-07-2011, 02:55 PM
If you want a loud exhaust you should come and swap your stock muffler for my one with a hole in the pipe between the muffler and the flange. It obviously looks stock but is real loud!

clarky0
06-07-2011, 11:16 AM
Basically i just want a nice growl sound, Nothing to loud. So i think a lukey might be the way

rarner
21-07-2011, 09:58 PM
Alright will be getting my tax return soon so just after some final confirmations. Came across this redback muffler (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Redback-Megaflow-Sports-Muffler-2-25-in-out-14-long-/220780785450?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item33678f6f2a) and was wondering if it would be cheaper to get this for 82 bucks and then go to an exhaust place to have it put on with a tip? It says the inlet is 2.25" and from what I've read the pipe on the magna is 2.5", is that right and can this muffler still be used?

3.5L_V6_TL_ES
24-07-2011, 07:30 AM
Alright will be getting my tax return soon so just after some final confirmations. Came across this redback muffler (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Redback-Megaflow-Sports-Muffler-2-25-in-out-14-long-/220780785450?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item33678f6f2a) and was wondering if it would be cheaper to get this for 82 bucks and then go to an exhaust place to have it put on with a tip? It says the inlet is 2.25" and from what I've read the pipe on the magna is 2.5", is that right and can this muffler still be used?

I think thats the one i've got. It sounds really nice. People alway complement me on the sound of my car. They have no drone at all. However I don't know if the exhaust shops will fit things that you buy and bring in. You may be better off going to an exhaust place and just saying you want a new back muffler with a tip, then choose your tip and drive your car out of there sounding nice. I was very addicted to the throttle when I drove out of the shop. Just loved the sound :D

Beachy
24-07-2011, 04:28 PM
FYI, I just bought and fitted myself a Redback catback 2.5" system Part numbers STR 361 and STR 364. Cost me $450 supplied with gaskets and took all of an hour to swap out the old and in with the new on car ramps. Sound wise, nice growl with a bit of extra pedal pressure, nice and quiet in & out of cabin when under normal drive load.

Overall, very satisfied with it and I am well into the Grandpa age :woot:, but who says you can't enjoy a good car sound eh!! Car breathes better now, LPG tune is much better and economy seems to have gained a bit, but need to test a bit more to be conclusive.

BlackVY
24-07-2011, 04:51 PM
I think I have a hole in my exhaust, so I have permission from the wife to get a new exhaust, but nothing too loud, since we got the car because we have having a baby, so no loud exhaust and no drone in the car.

Looking for something not too expensive either, since the baby comes first... Lol!

So would the stock exhaust be my only option? Or could I get a VRX exhaust? Will that make alot of noise? I have a 2000 TJ Exec Magna by the way, stock as a rock, 3.5L auto. And suggestions?

Looking to get the exhaust done soon-ish, as the noise in and out of the car is becoming quite loud and annoying... Thanks :)

HaydenVRX
24-07-2011, 04:57 PM
I think I have a hole in my exhaust, so I have permission from the wife to get a new exhaust, but nothing too loud, since we got the car because we have having a baby, so no loud exhaust and no drone in the car.

Looking for something not too expensive either, since the baby comes first... Lol!

So would the stock exhaust be my only option? Or could I get a VRX exhaust? Will that make alot of noise? I have a 2000 TJ Exec Magna by the way, stock as a rock, 3.5L auto. And suggestions?

Looking to get the exhaust done soon-ish, as the noise in and out of the car is becoming quite loud and annoying... Thanks :)

The redback catback is a bolt on for your car and is the best value for money with mandrel bent pipes. It is not loud but has a deep note. Should be perfect for what you want. If you want a loud exhaust this is not for you.

Ben3.0TH
24-07-2011, 05:41 PM
Some people should use the search button, nothing new being asked or discussed here.\
Just buy this
Redback Catback Exhaust System

Comes in 2 pieces: Front (STR361) and Rear (STR364)
Suits all 3rd Gen Magnas/Veradas (except AWD models)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/mohit/Verada/redbackexhaust01.jpg

or alternatively order the Lukey AL4-5597 Bolt-on Rear Muffler it bolts on and can be ordered from supercheap for around $220, i had one it sounds nices and takes 10 mins to install yourself.

BlackVY
24-07-2011, 06:12 PM
The redback catback is a bolt on for your car and is the best value for money with mandrel bent pipes. It is not loud but has a deep note. Should be perfect for what you want. If you want a loud exhaust this is not for you.

Sounds good. Thanks heaps mate... Not looking for loud at all... but if it can help fuel consumption and maybe improve performance a little, that would be great.

Thanks.. I will look into the redback :)

Yellow Mistsu
24-07-2011, 07:58 PM
10 minutes to install yourself? Do you have a hoist? 15 - 20 maybe, but less than .2 of an hour???? Thanks for the tip though - I may need a new muffler soon - I keep getting sea water on mine.

TiMi
24-07-2011, 08:10 PM
Where would I find the redback catback section, and roughly how much $$?

Ben3.0TH
24-07-2011, 08:28 PM
10 minutes to install yourself? Do you have a hoist? 15 - 20 maybe, but less than .2 of an hour???? Thanks for the tip though - I may need a new muffler soon - I keep getting sea water on mine.
All you need is a jack, and then undo to bolts, take muffler out, put new muffler in (with new flange gasket) and two new nuts and bolts (original nuts are welded on), it really is an easy job. This is the Lukey btw.


Where would I find the redback catback section, and roughly how much $$?
Ebay used to have them regularly but any exhaust shop should be able to order them if you take in the part number. Maybe even try an auto store they may be able to order redback.

PeteW
24-07-2011, 08:35 PM
all i can say is just stay away from the tin can milo tin canon mufflers sound crap let the exel owners have them

Life
24-07-2011, 08:40 PM
FYI - the redback catback pipe does require modification if fitted to a 3.5L. It's standard configuration is slightly longer to allow for the smaller cat found on 3.0L's.

clarky0
24-07-2011, 09:51 PM
So if i go into an exhaust fitter and ask him for a lukey it should cost me around the $300 mark? Because i have no tools to fit my own exhaust

BlackVY
25-07-2011, 07:54 AM
Yeah I'll probably be going to an exhaust shop somewhere in Western Sydney to get it fitted... I'm not very mechanically minded... though I'm an Engineer... well a computer engineer... Lol!

Ben3.0TH
25-07-2011, 09:34 AM
If you just two shifters you could install the lukey, don't need any fancy tools and could save yourself $100+

BlackVY
25-07-2011, 09:38 AM
If you just two shifters you could install the lukey, don't need any fancy tools and could save yourself $100+

Wouldn't there be any welding or cutting involved? Because I think the hole in my exhaust is somewhere in the middle, not at the rear muffler...

Ben3.0TH
25-07-2011, 09:44 AM
Yes there is welding and cutting if you have a hole. I'm just showing for ppl who wanted a muffler cheaper, because when I was quoted to have mine some shops wanted more than 300.

BlackVY
25-07-2011, 10:03 AM
Yes there is welding and cutting if you have a hole. I'm just showing for ppl who wanted a muffler cheaper, because when I was quoted to have mine some shops wanted more than 300.

Well thats cool... thanks again... I will take it to a shop and they can put it up on a hoist and see what the problem is... if its simple, I might do it myself...

I've done some work on Commodores and a Nissan 300zx, but nothing on a Magna yet, this is my first, so I'm a total newb here...

Dave
25-07-2011, 10:18 AM
Piece of cake if changing muffler that already has the flange fitted.

You will need to hit the flange bolts with some WD40 and/or that Loctite freeze in a can stuff. They will be rusted up pretty well.

Jack the car up and put onto axle stands on the drivers side, take off the driver side rear wheel and you will have easy access to remove and install the muffler :)

clarky0
25-07-2011, 06:04 PM
Okay thanks, will give it a go asap

krakaos
28-07-2011, 06:42 PM
i recently went into a shop here in melbourne and was quoted for a cat back exhaust.
$380 for them to order in an exhaust and fit it
or
$440 for them to custom make a 2.25"

BlackVY
09-08-2011, 12:56 PM
Don't know if this is a rip off or not, but I went to an exhaust shop on the weekend and was told for a cat back for my TJ magna, it would cost $550. Seems a little steep for me, for just a basic exhaust, not a sport or custom one.

Anyone know where in Sydney I can go to get a a cat back and not be ripped off?

Oggy
09-08-2011, 01:46 PM
BlackVY: The only difference between a basic exhaust and a sport or custom one is the size.

Did you go to Liverpool Exhaust by any chance?
They used to have a great rep (may still do, I'm out of the info loop these days) but price was a bit high. Also, in my experience, they didn't really listen to what the customer wants. Gave me a cannon exhaust when I said "I want it audible, but not loud". HAH!


What area are you in? I dropped into a place on Sunnyholt Rd Blacktown and they had access to the RedBack system and from memory it was about $450 fitted.

Skapper
09-08-2011, 07:14 PM
$550. Seems a little steep for me

LOL - Come to my town mate. I got quotes for a set of extractors this week; Pacemakers $750, Hurricanes $890. That's without fitting, which according to the shops in town takes 3 hours @ $85 an hour.

BlackVY
10-08-2011, 11:12 AM
BlackVY: The only difference between a basic exhaust and a sport or custom one is the size.

Did you go to Liverpool Exhaust by any chance?
They used to have a great rep (may still do, I'm out of the info loop these days) but price was a bit high. Also, in my experience, they didn't really listen to what the customer wants. Gave me a cannon exhaust when I said "I want it audible, but not loud". HAH!


What area are you in? I dropped into a place on Sunnyholt Rd Blacktown and they had access to the RedBack system and from memory it was about $450 fitted.

I'm near Penrith, but I don't mind driving around to get a good job done at a good price.

I wouldn't mind getting a redback for $450, since I've heard that is probably one of the better ones for the Magna...

I also got a quick quote from a guy in Merrylands who will do a custom exhaust for about $350, depending on what I ask for, like if I want it loud or quiet and stuff, but a friend of mine said that is probably only going to be mild steel, which I don't mind either.

Thing is right now, the center muffler in my exhaust has gone, and I need to get a new one, as this one squeaks alot, and just sounds bad. I also think I'm losing a bit of power, so quite annoyed.

I don't want anything loud, as this is meant to be a family car since we are having a baby is less than a month, so just something nice and quiet. I don't think the wife would mind if there is a bit of sound outside the car, but I think it would be best if it was relatively quiet inside.

I got my commodore exhaust done in Liverpool a while ago, it was good, but I think they just did what they wanted to it, which I didn't mind too much back then.

Still interested in the redback for $450 though... and blacktown is not that far from me, about 30min, which is worth it... if you know the name of the place, that would be great. Thanks :)

BlackVY
10-08-2011, 11:13 AM
LOL - Come to my town mate. I got quotes for a set of extractors this week; Pacemakers $750, Hurricanes $890. That's without fitting, which according to the shops in town takes 3 hours @ $85 an hour.

Thats insane... way too much... I thought Queensland wasn't too expensive... thinking of moving up there in about 5 years time... things in Sydney are just too hectic...

altera
10-08-2011, 02:02 PM
I'm near Penrith, but I don't mind driving around to get a good job done at a good price.

I wouldn't mind getting a redback for $450, since I've heard that is probably one of the better ones for the Magna...

I also got a quick quote from a guy in Merrylands who will do a custom exhaust for about $350, depending on what I ask for, like if I want it loud or quiet and stuff, but a friend of mine said that is probably only going to be mild steel, which I don't mind either.

Thing is right now, the center muffler in my exhaust has gone, and I need to get a new one, as this one squeaks alot, and just sounds bad. I also think I'm losing a bit of power, so quite annoyed.

I don't want anything loud, as this is meant to be a family car since we are having a baby is less than a month, so just something nice and quiet. I don't think the wife would mind if there is a bit of sound outside the car, but I think it would be best if it was relatively quiet inside.

I got my commodore exhaust done in Liverpool a while ago, it was good, but I think they just did what they wanted to it, which I didn't mind too much back then.

Still interested in the redback for $450 though... and blacktown is not that far from me, about 30min, which is worth it... if you know the name of the place, that would be great. Thanks :)

Personally i would stay away from the $350 exhaust, most exhaust are in fact mild steel so no biggi ,but i bet he gives you crush bent pipe which is a downgrade on your current system.

BlackVY
10-08-2011, 06:00 PM
Personally i would stay away from the $350 exhaust, most exhaust are in fact mild steel so no biggi ,but i bet he gives you crush bent pipe which is a downgrade on your current system.

Ouch.. That would be bad. Thanks for the heads up. Can you recommend anywhere to get an exhaust done?

Skapper
10-08-2011, 08:43 PM
Thats insane... way too much... I thought Queensland wasn't too expensive... thinking of moving up there in about 5 years time... things in Sydney are just too hectic...

I hear Brisbane is very expensive (cost of living etc). But, in Mackay where I'm at everything is subject to a miners tax and as such is ridiculously overpriced. Not too mention the service from most business is pathetic. Rents are at inner Sydney rates and higher IF you can find a place - Mackay's homeless rate is 239 in 10000. Infrastructure hasn't evolved based 1940.

I could rant about it for hours. Seriously.

Rock up to an exhaust shop in a ten year old Magna and they treat you like an idiot. Three hours to fit a set of direct fit extractors? Pfft, I can fit them with my one arm, a set of chssis stands and jack in less tan that. Or at least I plan to.

Grumpy pants on.

Life
10-08-2011, 09:14 PM
Don't know if this is a rip off or not, but I went to an exhaust shop on the weekend and was told for a cat back for my TJ magna, it would cost $550. Seems a little steep for me, for just a basic exhaust, not a sport or custom one.

Anyone know where in Sydney I can go to get a a cat back and not be ripped off?

Echo Exhaust in Ingleburn - Should be 450ish fitted for the full redback catback system.

Tobed0g
10-08-2011, 09:58 PM
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/130546444327?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fshop.ebay.com.au%3A80 %2Fi.html%3F_nkw%3D130546444327%26_in_kw%3D1%26_ex _kw%3D%26_sacat%3DSee-All-Categories%26_okw%3D130546444327%26_oexkw%3D%26_ad v%3D1%26_udlo%3D%26_udhi%3D%26_ftrt%3D901%26_ftrv% 3D1%26_sabdlo%3D%26_sabdhi%3D%26_samilow%3D%26_sam ihi%3D%26_sadis%3D200%26_fpos%3DPostcode%26LH_SALE _CURRENCY%3D0%26_sop%3D12%26_dmd%3D1%26_ipg%3D50%2 6_fvi%3D1&_rdc=1#ht_1566wt_905

It was $40 posted to Newcastle. Got it on my car now, not a huge change in noise but I have noticed that it picks up a bit more from 3-4.5k RPM. You will need to have a section taken off in front of the front muffler though.

Life
10-08-2011, 10:00 PM
Above system is not a bolt-on for a 3.5L, it requires shortening due to the 3.5's longer catalytic converter. Hence the extra cost in installation.

BlackVY
11-08-2011, 08:09 AM
Thanks for the assist guys... I'm not planning on the work on the car myself, but if I get the bolt on that would fit a 3.5L, then I might be able to take it to my mech and he could fit it for about $50 I guess. Just trying not to spend too much on the car just yet with a bub on the way... just need the car quiet and running well, thats all... :)

Tobed0g
11-08-2011, 05:18 PM
Above system is not a bolt-on for a 3.5L, it requires shortening due to the 3.5's longer catalytic converter. Hence the extra cost in installation.

Did you even read what I posted?

altera
11-08-2011, 05:47 PM
Thanks for the assist guys... I'm not planning on the work on the car myself, but if I get the bolt on that would fit a 3.5L, then I might be able to take it to my mech and he could fit it for about $50 I guess. Just trying not to spend too much on the car just yet with a bub on the way... just need the car quiet and running well, thats all... :)

If thats the case save your money and get just the muffler, there is a guy on cox ave penrith/kingswood two shops up from the rebels club house, he's an aussie guy, no bullshiting around and will give you a very competitive price, i got a high flow cat installed from him last week, it cost me $280 and i was out of there within an hour, previous quote was $500 from muffler mart on regenville road, he's dreaming..

BlackVY
12-08-2011, 11:49 AM
If thats the case save your money and get just the muffler, there is a guy on cox ave penrith/kingswood two shops up from the rebels club house, he's an aussie guy, no bullshiting around and will give you a very competitive price, i got a high flow cat installed from him last week, it cost me $280 and i was out of there within an hour, previous quote was $500 from muffler mart on regenville road, he's dreaming..

That sounds great mate, but I took it to an exhaust shop and my normal mech and both said the whole system should be changed, coz if I change the center muffler now, I will still need to get the rear done too before the next rego coz its on its way out too.. so might get the whole thing done at 1 go... si the place u are talking about DAM fabrications or something? I just checked it out on google maps.