I am tempted to see what happens if i use E10 in the Solara.

Any advice? Currently using V-Power for the last like 20 tanks, so the engine is all clean? or would E10 help burn some more carbon and build up?

thanks

I have been using E10 for years with no noticable change

Double post.

Awesome! thanks.

If I don't use the car often say I can't get through a tank in 2 weeks, should I not use E10? I heard it turns into water or attracts water over time?

Never used E10 before, just hope it won't block up the fuel filters.

Can't wait to go on a cruise, The car's been idle for a while.

Thats just my experience with E10 ... also try to fill up at the same servo each time

Ohh, that is an interesting one, any reason for that? I usually have 3 different ones I go to, Shell Coles, Caltex and Caltex Woolworths.

Look up the 6G74 and it's lack of knock sensor.

In short, using higher octane fuel doesn't yield nearly as much benefit as it should, the car is tuned for 91 and 91 only.
95 and 98 might be a little better but it's not worth the cost whatsoever, UNLESS you tune it for 98 or 95 specifically.

I have always used Shell....and always the same servo..I think there a lot of factors that determine the quality of the fuel by the time it reaches our tanks..again only my opinion

95 and 98 might be a little better but it's not worth the cost whatsoeverBut the cost of 95 E10 is less than standard 91.

I use to tell my dad not to waste money on V-Power (98) but now I drive the car, I find that when accelerating V-Power is a big difference, in that the front wheels seem to stutter when starting to accelerate quickly and also the breaks feel weaker, when using a lower grade fuel the breaks feel stronger.

Definitely interested to see what difference I can feel with e10 next tank round, as of course maybe the stutter is due to balding tires and the breaks are just worn lol :P haven't used non-98 fuel in 20m tanks at least.

But the cost of 95 E10 is less than standard 91.

E10 is supposed to be 91 isn't it?

Depends where you get it, I think Caltex is 91, Shell is 94 and United is 95. That's what they say anyway.

By the way OP, I had an 01 Solara for about 18 months, used only E10 in it, no issues. My mother also has been using it in her TL for the last 6 years also, and I switch between E10 and E85 in my 380. :)

one good reason for using E10 in any car, and perhaps the only good reason, is that the ethanol sucks any water out of the bottom of the tank, so it could prevent corrosion in the fuel tank. I don't know if Magnas have a problem here. For all I know, they might have plastic tanks.

But apart from that, any car will use more E10 than it would ordinary petrol. This must be so, because there is less energy in ethanol than in petrol. Of course it will have a higher octane rating but that is wasted in an engine designed for the lower rating.

Years ago in Zimbabwe, it was E10 or nothing. People used it in everything. It seemed fine.

E10 is fine, hundreds of thousands of people use it everyday with no bad effects lol

Awesome, thanks everyone, all your advice has been most helpful :)

Can't wait for a Magna cruise to pump a tank of E10 through.

At the current moment I want stronger brakes if I use V-Power, maybe it's V-Power or just shooty brakes cause my breaking is not as strong as my Mazda 2 (half disc half drum) :/

lol 98 octane isn't some magic juice that makes your car fly, I doubt you'll feel a real difference between 98 and 91 on your untuned car.
E85 + tune on the other hand...
You should get stronger brakes regardless.

lol 98 octane isn't some magic juice that makes your car fly, I doubt you'll feel a real difference between 98 and 91 on your untuned car.
E85 + tune on the other hand...
You should get stronger brakes regardless.

I feel a difference in power and economy between 95 and 98 let alone 91.

The difference people feel between 91 and premium isn't so much the higher octane rating, but moreso the better quality fuel IMO.

As for E10, some people seem to run it fine, I myself found it dropped power considerably and fuel economy was far worse, negating the cost savings at the bowser.

Also how would using a different fuel affect your brakes? That doesn't really make much sense to me.

I feel a difference in power and economy between 95 and 98 let alone 91.

Of course, but it's a not 50kwatw power gain that your brakes aren't good enough anymore lol

I never notice(d) any power difference between 98RON or E10 in the Ralliarts.

What i did notice was the 1.5-2L/100km more use from E10 than 98, very effectively ruining any price advantage.
Add into that the fact that E10 (even 95RON in some places now, containing 'up to 10% ethanol' - don't think we're idiots. You're selling E10 as 95) is generally cheap shit while 98RON is expensive for a reason, and you know why i've only put 1/2 tank of anything but 98RON in the manual since i've owned it.

Of course, but it's a not 50kwatw power gain that your brakes aren't good enough anymore lol

Yeah but for the smoother power delivery and the few kw increase and 1L/100 i get, all small improvments but i am definately prepared to pay the extra 15c/L

Interesting, going to try E10 and hope I get some good power.

I use E10 on my Mazda 2 and compared to V-Power it makes not that much difference except some L/KM and seems to accelerate more responsively and I think the car seems to cruise for longer after letting go of the accelerator but I never know if it's just psychological as I use ULP and sometime the car can be just as quick.

This thread = FAIL

As stated before you will get no noticeable power increase from different fuels in our Magnas unless you have had your ECU tuned to 98Ron. Our ECUs are tuned for 91Ron so therefore putting a higher Ron fuel in will make no noticeable power gains. If you are noticing a power gain it is simply a placebo effect. The only noticeable difference would be to fuel economy but that is generally negated by the cost at the pump.

Cheers Luke

I find that when accelerating V-Power is a big difference, in that the front wheels seem to stutter when starting to accelerate quickly and also the breaks feel weaker, when using a lower grade fuel the breaks feel stronger.
I hope you don't expect to be taken seriously - especially about the brakes.

Try it out and check your fuel consumption.
Regardless of the ECU tuning (mine are all factory tuned) I have a TJ2 that has only run on E10 for the past 110,000kms and gets as low 7.6l/100km on a trip (worse on 98).
Then there is my KJ1 gets 8.3l/100km on average from 98 (worse on E10).
It depends on brand of fuel and the individual vehicle.

I actually called mitsubishi when I was putting on trial E10 - 95 octane petrol for a month. They said that it is not recommended.

It ran exactly the same as it would on normal 91. But i found the fuel economy to be a little worse.

No harm trying a tankfull of it to see what you think.

QUESTION!!! Why the E10 is the cheapest fuel? (the answer of my question shold solve the problem)

less calories!

Btw Ralliarts shouldn't run under 95 octane due to the slightly higher compression.

QUESTION!!! Why the E10 is the cheapest fuel? (the answer of my question shold solve the problem)

lol because ethanol is made of sugar cane and cheaper to produce.

I think E10 is actually more expensive to produce, store and sell but the government subsidize it and also in NSW there is a minimum % that needs to be sold by each Petrol station. That is what i have read anyway.

I put in E10 today, 1:5 ratio mix of V-Power to E10. No notable difference, but using around 1.2L/10Kms, so ~ 12L/100?

I think the car is due for a service then, the breaks are soo crap compared to when I use to drive it. Looking at Youtube videos, I am sure the Ralliart owners here don't have the same brakes? as your cars go, but if they had the same brakes as mine, they won't stop......

ralliarts have upgraded brakes twin pot fronts to be exact!

Btw Ralliarts shouldn't run under 95 octane due to the slightly higher compression.
The entire reason they're running 9.4:1 instead of 10:1 is so that you can still run them on 91RON. That's why tuning for 95RON produces an (albeit tiny) increase in power.
Ralliarts could have been running 200kw easily if Mitsu let them make them require 95RON+.

Still wouldn't call 91 ideal.

The main problem I have heard with e10 is after a prolonged period of use in a car that is listed as 'non-compatible', it will eat the fuel hoses and rubbers, due to the ethanol acting as a solvent, and thus causing fuel leaks and engine fires. The other is e10's ability to absorb water, so is not so good in areas of high humidity as fuel can become water contaminated causing premature wear of engine components. However you can change fuel hoses, etc, to ethanol compatible ones and I would assume that if you go through a tank fairly regularly that you wouldn't have an issue with the water contamination.

All mitsubishi vehicles post 1986 are fully E10 compatible - source is:
http://www.fcai.com.au/environment/can-my-vehicle-operate-on-ethanol-blend-petrol-

Still wouldn't call 91 ideal.
Not ideal, God no, but you can do it without too many headaches. Very helpful if you happen to be in the middle of nowhere and only 91RON is available, as i had once in my Auto when i went to visit a mate in Dubbo.
Pulled into some town with the light on, only servo i could find did 91RON and diesel, and no where in the town sold octane booster, so i would have been screwed if i had mine tuned.

So when is the world gonna finally upgrade to 110RON unleaded so we can all run more efficient, cleaner, high compression engines and reduce emissions+fuel use?

What do you mean 'you can do it without too many headaches'? Are you trolling? The car is designed for 91. There will be no headaches.