View Full Version : I Put in wayyyyyyy toooo much oil...
Magna_Lad
03-08-2011, 02:09 PM
Now it's leaked out the air filter... does this mean I need to take the manifold off and clean it out etc???? I filled it up when I was half asleep at 5am this morning and it didn't register in my brain that it was a 5L bottle... it seemed a bit bigger... and also didn't need the 4L that i put in... probably none in hindsight... don't ask.. one of those days.. weeks... months.. :nuts:
Any help ASAP appreciated... thanks :happy:
oh and PS.. When I started the engine it chugged and then kicked over.. I automatically new I'd put too much oil in.. but didn't realize how much until I saw the smoke storm trailing after me.. I had to turn around and go back home... drove a couple of K's in this state... is my trusty TS now headed for it's final resting place????
Dingers
03-08-2011, 02:24 PM
Well first thing to do is drain it?
Also how did it leak out of the air filter...?
Unfortunately you may have already done irrepairable damage. Too much oil in the sump will cause the crank to froth the oil, essentially stopping it from lubricating the engine
GT-Pete
03-08-2011, 03:46 PM
Oil out the air filter..... Now that's impressive!
Magna_Lad
03-08-2011, 03:46 PM
Thanks for the responses... Guess I'll drain the oil out and see how it goes... I've been cleaning out the air intake pipes and filter... need a new filter for starters =) Hopefully not too much damage Dave with the couple of K's I drove.. but I guess thats all it takes for the engine to heat up!! I'm not an auto expert Dingers... but I'm guessing the excess oil found it's way into the "air intake manifold"??? if that even exists lol and then passed it's way down into the filter box... the oil leaked out of the replaced resonators (with spice lids)... Lucky it's tax time.. may have to buy a new ride...
Magna_Lad
03-08-2011, 03:49 PM
Oil out the air filter..... Now that's impressive!
lol well my GF wont be too impressed, if I have to spend our savings on a new car... I may have to buy her a car and just have "borrowing rights"...
MadMax
03-08-2011, 03:50 PM
Dip stick! Read up about it, find it, use it!
Sparky
03-08-2011, 04:05 PM
A bit to late Madmax lol
Maybe it pumped straight oil down the breather pipe into the intake manifold and some got past the throttle body and down the intake piping...
Drain it, clean it up as best you can, fill it to the correct level and see how it goes I guess. If any oil is on the mass air flow sensor, you will probably need to clean it out with maf sensor cleaner spray or if you can find a spare sensor for less than the cost of a can of cleaner, swap it for that.
old magna
04-08-2011, 04:54 PM
firstly i agree with most people...clean her out and she will survive. its a dam magna after all lol. apart from auto boxes they are pretty tough and ruff. the abundance of oil would have been pusher from the two breather hoses on top of the engine rocker cover into the inlet manifold and tubes. take them off and give them a clean. drain the oil others others said. unless it got into the sensitive electronics like the maf meter it will live. take plugs out and clean them up. if you reckon allot got sucked in the throttle plenum / intake ducting get a can of throttle body / carby cleaner and squirt that in the air intake duct but try not to get too much down into the engine its self. as long as you clean most of it off she will be fine. let it run for a good while to burn the rest off.
ive fixed a few tractors that have been tipped / rolled (not by me) and it usually creates a bit of smoke but that's it. but as others said make sure you clean the MAF meter up because its pretty vital to the thing running right.
good luck
regards jay
Magna_Lad
07-08-2011, 12:25 PM
Thanks for all the advice everyone... I cleaned out the intake pipes and MAF sensor.. The element in the middle section of the sensor had no oil on it or in that section.. replaced the air filter and drained ALL the oil out and I'm not even going to say how much was in there but let's just say it was prob enough for several cars... Yeap next time check the dipstick, cos the signs were there that it needed more oil.. but I guess if there was too much in there it just wasn't lubricating the engine properly... Drove it around for a couple of K's and it's stopped smoking.. doesn't seem to be any leaks.. Also topped up the radiator with coolant/water mix... I think she was running a little too hot...
There is one outstanding issue... The engine cuts out once it's heated up and been driven for a couple of K's... gotta keep the foot on the gas or it's gone... This was a pre-existing issue before the oil fiasco.. any ideas? Idle control? Throttle thingy?? Seems to be engine temp related, cos if I drive the full length of Eastlink and stop at the first set of lights in Frankston... it isn't an issue there.. but once I've driven through town, I get home and it's happening again... Sometimes the idle drops low when I stop and then jumps up again.. but then later just drops out when I stop... any help with this one appreciated =) cheers yall
LOUD1
07-08-2011, 12:38 PM
Hmmmmmmmmm that's an odd thing to go wrong..., I would stay it could be a throttle sensor, or crank angle sensor maybe go to the wreckers and get a second hand throttle body with all the gear... Or, if you have an engine light,... Take it to Mitsubishi etc, and they hook a there little computer up and the ecu should tell them, it could even be the ecu.. But very rare, most likely the first two
Magna_Lad
07-08-2011, 01:24 PM
Thanks LOUD1, Thought about cleaning out the throttle body etc, but didn't have time or the new bits I needed to replace.. I was checking around the forum at similar posted problems.. dont think it's the ISC, I had it idling (with foot on the gas to stop it from conking out) and switched on the aircon and the revs came right up, foot off the gas and it stayed there.. switched the aircon off and out went the engine.. Not sure how to test the ECU but I also have'nt disconected the battery recently, although I did a few weeks ago.. Could it be a clogged fuel filter? I'm pretty sure I need a new one cos when the tank is low the car chuggs abit up hills and sometimes when I take off? Perhaps even some horrid gunk in the petrol tank clogging it up? I've just filled the car up with premium and plan to keep it above half.. that may help..
Sparky
07-08-2011, 02:02 PM
I had the same problem, the idle rpm need to be readjusted. I just got mechanic to do the job :) But they should be a guide for readjusting base idle in the service manual. Click the link below.
Magna_Lad
12-08-2011, 06:23 AM
So after reading all the replies and searching through some more older threads.. I realised that there was definitely an air leak AFTER the MAF sensor... in the form of my resonator replacing SPICE LIDS... I didn't think of it at first but there was oil leaking out of them... So, because I threw the resonators out a long time ago, I resealed the lids with orange anti-squeal brake stuff and after they dried, put some around the air intake pipe opening and put them on... they're well sealed now and it seems to have sorted the stalling issue... However I have noticed that although the car now keeps revs up better in D (between 600-700).. the revs only come up slightly maybe 100rpm when I put it back in park... and the idle still jumps around a lot in gear...
I know I need to change the fuel filter, so I'm thinking that maybe this has something to do with it... I'm going to read up about changing the fuel filter, can't be too hard right???? :woot:
thanks for all the replies peeps, i'll keep you posted as too how the filter change goes!
Magna_Lad
17-08-2011, 02:23 AM
Stalling issue is fixed! Cleaned out the throttle body pipe (not the whole thing) and there was heaps of build up in that alone... but whilst I was scouting around cleaning other things up.. I found this curious looking orange rubber rectangle ring.. Didn't know where it had come from at first, but found that it was from inside the MAF sensor plug. Put it back in, reset the ISC and car is running fine again.. Revs a lot higher now (in idle about 900rpm steady) and shoots up to 1500rpm in park.. perhaps a little too high in park, but I just switch the car off ASAP. I think after I had fixed the air leaks.. the missing rubber ring must have made a bad connection for the MAF sensor.. thus it still ran rough.. anyways, I'm thinking of buying a 2.4L TS manual now and give the 3L to my GF.. Think I'll stick with the TS model, I like em :woot:
QuickMagna
20-08-2011, 04:24 PM
Well I think Its Just splashing Maybe? Like when the air and fuel go into the manifold to mix, Maybe the Excess oil is Splashing around In the Manifold and Finding its way Into your Air Intake, Leaking out of ur Filter? I dont know buts thats all I got Lol
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