hey i need to replace the brake pads on the tl and spoke to the guy from the mechanics and he said that i could put 4wd pads on the tl.... is this true?

he said i could and that they could take more of a pounding and support more heat from heavy braking.....

As in the AWD type?
If so than no, different caliper set up, AWD pads and calipers are bigger, twin piston vs single.

If its any help, Supercheap at darlington have rear bendix ultimate pads on special. save yourself $18 at the moment, i picked myself up a set :) special ends on the 12th or 13th i think.

Edit: to fit TJ or equivalent.

Bendix make a H/D pad recommended for 4WD's .....probably what he means! yep that would be fine.

na its a fwd, i wish it was an awd lol. hmmmmmmm well would they make much different to standard pads??? i spoke to him about installin a 380 setup and he said these 4wd brakes would be better....

na its a fwd, i wish it was an awd lol. hmmmmmmm well would they make much different to standard pads??? i spoke to him about installin a 380 setup and he said these 4wd brakes would be better....

guy doesnt know what the hell he is talking about....even with "4wd " pads,your stock set up will never beat a 380 or AWD set up.

You want an AWD/Ralliart set up,PM Zero,as he has got Brembps and will be ( i think ) offering his front brake set up for sale

don't forget you might need to change the wheels as well!! 15" wheels won't fit over AWD or 380 calipers, you need 16"

Maggie, take a big chill pill dude - reactionary statements like that without thinking is what causes chaos on forums like this one.
The "4WD brakes" will be better. Absolutely true if you drive like a granny and want to spend $100 instead of $500+. Not likely to be true if the Mech thinks they'll pull up in a shorter distance than AWD/RA/380 brakes.

My AWD has 4WD brake pads from Bendix on it now - I found it strange when my mech said it too. I'm wondering if the pads are the exact fitment for a Pajero and they make different compounds for 4WD versus passenger cars - I don't know really.

I've pulled up hard a few times in mine and don't think the pads have a problem at all. I do have AWD, slotted DBAs up front and find that also downshifting with the tiptronic is more effective than only standing on the brake pedal. I've never had brake fade in my Magna, but I haven't really pushed it yet either.
But even still, I wouldn't think 4WD compound would stand up to much more abuse - heck, my previous 4x4 weighed 1800kg (and would almost do an endo when stopping), this Magna weighs 1760 with me and some cardboard in it!

hmmmmmmm well would they make much different to standard pads??? i spoke to him about installin a 380 setup and he said these 4wd brakes would be better....
If you want to stop quicker, go the 380 upgrade - there's only so much difference new pads and rotors could make. If you're happy with how your car currently pulls, up, it depends. If you're getting brake fade, then sure, go for a new set of pads... if it was me I'd be looking at a set of QFM HPX. If you aren't getting any fade from your current brakes, a set of performance pads isn't really going to be worthwhile :P

If you want to stop quicker, go the 380 upgrade - there's only so much difference new pads and rotors could make. If you're happy with how your car currently pulls, up, it depends. If you're getting brake fade, then sure, go for a new set of pads... if it was me I'd be looking at a set of QFM HPX. If you aren't getting any fade from your current brakes, a set of performance pads isn't really going to be worthwhile :P

Stop quicker how? Stock 3rd gen brakes with decent pads and rotors are more than enough to haul the car to a stop in an emergency. I saw no difference between the single and double piston calipers that were on my magna in these situations. However, prolonged hard braking is where improvements are seen between the single and double piston, with a greater surface area to dissipate unwanted heat. No point telling the dude to upgrade to twin pistons if the car is driven sedately to the shops!

Stop quicker how? Stock 3rd gen brakes with decent pads and rotors are more than enough to haul the car to a stop in an emergency. I saw no difference between the single and double piston calipers that were on my magna in these situations. However, prolonged hard braking is where improvements are seen between the single and double piston, with a greater surface area to dissipate unwanted heat. No point telling the dude to upgrade to twin pistons if the car is driven sedately to the shops!

I disagree, I experienced a significant difference when braking hard with stock single pot 3rd gen brakes when compared to the dual pots on my 2nd gen Verada. Are the 2nd gen twin pots all that different to the 3rd gen ones? My AWD ones were great, and they had plenty more weight to stop than a normal Magna

The OP was however asking about Longevity of the twin pots and better heat dissipation which i presume would be a suitable upgrade for that purpose

Well I like to give my girl a push occasionally and find that my brakes work just no where as good as my old Tl would. I asked him prices on all things and whether it would be better to upgrade the system to 380 brakes.

Next question I have is would a set of 380 brakes fit under the 18's or would inneedyo change them?? Is it as simple as a
DIY day to pull the current set up
Off and replace it with a better 380 set up??

I was a bit shocked when he told me to go for 4wd brakes considering he said they will take more heat and last longer and pull u up quicker.... The last part I am unsure of whether it's true or not....

Well I like to give my girl a push occasionally and find that my brakes work just no where as good as my old Tl would. I asked him prices on all things and whether it would be better to upgrade the system to 380 brakes.

Next question I have is would a set of 380 brakes fit under the 18's or would inneedyo change them?? Is it as simple as a
DIY day to pull the current set up
Off and replace it with a better 380 set up??

I was a bit shocked when he told me to go for 4wd brakes considering he said they will take more heat and last longer and pull u up quicker.... The last part I am unsure of whether it's true or not....

Yes changing to 380/awd calipers & rotors is quick & simple....should fit your current 18's.

The 4wd pads are made of a compound that takes more heat than standard pads....most 4wd's are heavy & used for towing, so these would be a little up-grade which wouldnt fade as easy as the stockies.

Not gonna work nearly as good as a 380/awd set-up with similar pads though.

Well if someone locally is selling a set of 380's full setup let me know. Will have the cash in 2 weeks