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VERADA
24-07-2004, 06:53 PM
thinking of putting a Front Strut Brace on my verada is it worth it ?
illusionist
24-07-2004, 07:37 PM
unless it races on circuits with fully adjustable suspension, i think its purely rice factor
and not worth it....unless you only pay aboot $30 for it, then its no loss
but thats just me :)
TheDifference
24-07-2004, 07:40 PM
it is definately worth it. your front end stiffens up esp. when you take corners. you wont feel the full benefit unless you lower it, but you will feel the difference.
i recommend it as a first mod along with springs.
DeMonio
25-07-2004, 12:14 PM
i agree they are worth it, I use to have to change out of 1st at like 4000rpm cos the front wheels just wanted to lift too much and spin,all I did was fit a front strut brace and the first time I drove it I could rev it all the way out without the front wheels tryin to jump over the back. so YES worth every penny
cthulhu
25-07-2004, 12:34 PM
Definately go for it. I noticed a big difference in cornering feel (for the better), and the car also seems much more settled over mid-corner bumps and corrugations.
driver
25-07-2004, 03:54 PM
I've had my strut brace on for a week now. And Yes, it is worth it!!
Accelerating out of corners is where it's most noticable - better grip, and doesn't seem as sloppy when accelerating during slight turns.
TZABOY
25-07-2004, 03:56 PM
i just put mine on yesterday and i can say it makes a big difference, just much smoother hard conering and feels like better turn-in
Ralliart 410
25-07-2004, 06:20 PM
Can anyone tell me where in SA i can buy a front strut brace for a Ralliart Magna?
VERADA
25-07-2004, 07:25 PM
Thanks guys i will have to get one .Does anyone know how much they cost (Roughly) and are they easy to fit?
DeMonio
25-07-2004, 07:40 PM
sub $200 and takes what 15 mins to install, piece of cake.
cthulhu
25-07-2004, 08:47 PM
I bought mine mailer-order from http://www.autospeed.com/ - since I bought other stuff too which made the total bill more than $200, freight was free. You can buy direct from http://www.whiteline.com.au/ but it is usually cheaper from a retailer.
SARRAS
25-07-2004, 09:08 PM
So what's the go with the fitting of these things? Just unscrew the nuts, fit and re-screw? Anyone know what the appropriate torque setting is on a TJ?
petemal2000
25-07-2004, 10:44 PM
TzaBoy, where did you get your brace for your car (assuming you still have the 2nd gen)?
HyperTF
25-07-2004, 10:50 PM
I bought mine mailer-order from http://www.autospeed.com/ - since I bought other stuff too which made the total bill more than $200, freight was free. You can buy direct from http://www.whiteline.com.au/ but it is usually cheaper from a retailer.
Can anyone tell me some well known retailers please, cos I am going to get one now!
Altera98
26-07-2004, 04:44 PM
Can anyone tell me some well known retailers please, cos I am going to get one now!
u wont regret it, car just more stable in a straioght line too. :cool:
TheDifference
26-07-2004, 08:40 PM
Can anyone tell me some well known retailers please, cos I am going to get one now!
try trev from onautos again. i got mine through him..... $165 from memory
philsTH
27-07-2004, 03:16 AM
I imagine the ralliart would the same as a TJ brace as I doubt the strut towers were altered at manufacture.
Fitment, as explained by Whiteline:
Park car on level surface and leave the weight on the wheels.
Attach plates (without strut brace, remove allen key bolts) to top of strut towers, torque the nuts if you want (I didn't, just did up firm) 40-50nm 30-36ftlb.
One of the inlet resonators will need to be rotated to allow the stut to fit, it will turn by hand, line the angled edge so it is at the front parallel to srtut brace.
Get the strut and centre it so there are equal threads at each end, slide into position then adjust so the allen/hex bolts slide in with little or no resistance. tighten bolts no torque specified, I did mine up firm same as strut tower plates don't hang off them.
This is how mine was done and so it's up to you if yo want to copy.
see attached pic for air res orientation.
I found tighter turn in with this fitted now she needs to be lowered.
HyperTF
27-07-2004, 11:05 AM
try trev from onautos again. i got mine through him..... $165 from memory
Thank you kindly. I just called a alignment mob earlier recommended by the whiteline website and they were absolutely hopeless and seemed totally disinterested. No money from me going their way. When are these people going to learn? :rant:
turbo_charade
27-07-2004, 11:18 AM
unless it races on circuits with fully adjustable suspension, i think its purely rice factor
and not worth it....unless you only pay aboot $30 for it, then its no loss
but thats just me :)
here here! :bowdown:
ARCTIC TE
27-07-2004, 12:00 PM
i got my te one on order for 150 in adelaide
funky_fresian_cows
28-07-2004, 05:45 PM
unless it races on circuits with fully adjustable suspension, i think its purely rice factor
and not worth it....unless you only pay aboot $30 for it, then its no loss
but thats just me :)
Obviously someone with no idea about suspension.
A strut brace is a very worth while mod. I don't see much of a point of lowering a car making the springs stiffer and in my case sticking camber pins in it and running -1.5 degree on the front to go around a corner and have the struts flex and the car run no camber at all. So if that dosn't make sense a strut brace holds the struts in place and doesn't allow them to flex around corners. This in turn holds you camber at the degree you set it at and inproves cornering ability and stiffness. Now while you won't get much out if it at slow speeds as soon as you are traveling and cornering rather hard, which is why you get your car to handle in the first place a brace is a must have item. They aren't expensive either mine was about 150.
illusionist
02-08-2004, 05:26 PM
i'm sorry did i write that in russian? i thought i wrote it in english..no i'm pretty sure i did...maybe you just didnt understand it, here i'll say it again slower for you
unless...it...races...on...circuts...with..fully.. adjust-a-ble...sus-spen-sion, I think...its...purely...rice....factor
i totally agree wth you that braces work , but are we talking about road cars that drive around city streets? or race cars
i dont konw about you but i dont drive mine hard enuf to warrant a strut brace, and either do most law abiding road users
Preacher Man
02-08-2004, 05:37 PM
I off road mine regularly for work. I can warrant one!
SexedTF'n
02-08-2004, 06:09 PM
i'm sorry did i write that in russian? i thought i wrote it in english..no i'm pretty sure i did...maybe you just didnt understand it, here i'll say it again slower for you
unless...it...races...on...circuts...with..fully.. adjust-a-ble...sus-spen-sion, I think...its...purely...rice....factor
i totally agree wth you that braces work , but are we talking about road cars that drive around city streets? or race cars
i dont konw about you but i dont drive mine hard enuf to warrant a strut brace, and either do most law abiding road users
Don't forget that there are plenty of ppl who do from time to time push their cars hard around corners on normal roads, 90% of us would do it on occasions, some not as hard as others obviously. And going by what other ppl have said who have fitted strut braces, they all seem pretty happy with the new stiff and stable feeling of the car when cornering at a bit of speed, or even just accelerating out of corners. And we all want our cars to feel as nice as possible to drive don't we, no matter what the situation, and I'd say a more stable feeling car is a good thing, and $150-180 isn't exactly big money now is it.
I was once considering buying a strut brace, as they are a simple and fairly inexpensive mod, but decided against it because I thought there werent much gains to be had on my daily driver, but after reading what other ppl have said after experiencing a strut braced car Im starting to reconsider.
teK--
02-08-2004, 06:31 PM
One doesn't need to use their car specifically on the racetrack to enjoy the benefits of 'race car' features. Even without fully adjustable suspension, a strut brace will assist in keeping your alignment (even if stock) reasonably constant). To think that disc brakes were once a luxury only race cars had. That said, it's nice to have a car that handles much better than most of the other rep-mobiles out on the road.
Altera98
03-08-2004, 09:31 AM
i'm sorry did i write that in russian? i thought i wrote it in english..no i'm pretty sure i did...maybe you just didnt understand it, here i'll say it again slower for you
unless...it...races...on...circuts...with..fully.. adjust-a-ble...sus-spen-sion, I think...its...purely...rice....factor
i totally agree wth you that braces work , but are we talking about road cars that drive around city streets? or race cars
i dont konw about you but i dont drive mine hard enuf to warrant a strut brace, and either do most law abiding road users
save russian for skoda sites, we fully understood you the first time, and the key word up there is "think" bec u havent actually tried a strutbrace on a magna. For road cars at legal speed tighter steering, less body flex and less steering input even in a straight line are desirable and on these car this device delivers.
SexedTF'n
03-08-2004, 09:36 AM
So does every one whos purchased a strut brace for their 3rd gens definitely think it is worth it? Does the difference warrant the $160-170 price tag? Im considering getting one for my TF, as from the sounds of things it makes the car alot nicer to drive as far as stability goes, but want to know if other ppl would recomend them as a worth while mod. So any one with a strut braced 3rd gen, bring on the comments :D .
Altera98
03-08-2004, 09:47 AM
i think on a car thats already stiff and traks the road like a train, like a honda prelude for an eg, thers no point getting one. but the magna does have a bit of wander and the brace is worth it if ur a enthusiast and appreciate finer handling :cool:
jowet
03-08-2004, 10:04 AM
I fitted mine 2 weeks ago - it is definately worth it, the turn in is sharper, flatter, and more controllable :cool:
i think you'll find mixed comments on strut braces ie. like how the strut brace fitted to the new commodores made zero difference whatsoever ,etc. but in our case with FWD, a wide track (ie less stiff than small cars) and pretty slow factory turn-in, the strut brace helps out a lot.
SexedTF'n
03-08-2004, 10:18 AM
Sounds like a goer, now if only I could spare some $$$ at the moment I'd be right, all in good time I spose.
Snagma
03-08-2004, 11:15 AM
I have had mine on for a week now and it makes a huge difference. i would recomend to everyone
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