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z.spender
28-08-2011, 04:52 PM
ok om starting my install, spent a few hours on it today, i have a capasitor on the way that will sit in the under box, and a mono block is also on its way, once i have carpeted it all i will be making a shelf above the 12" subs at the back, for the mono... but i think ill need another mono block for the 10" subs, is this correct? if so ill get a 2nd mono and make a 2nd shelf, no biggie... here are some pics

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can mods please fix this so that the pics are up? thank you

krakaos
28-08-2011, 05:07 PM
you'll most likely want a second mono block for the 10" subs.
or else everything will be under powered, depending on how its all wired.

z.spender
28-08-2011, 05:09 PM
2nd mono it is then, so ill need splitters for the rca's? how do i run 2 off 1 head unit?

z.spender
28-08-2011, 05:31 PM
Can I run 2x monoblocks and a small amp for the 6x9's? Is this possible off 1 head unit? If so what is needed?

krakaos
28-08-2011, 05:40 PM
you can run 0 gauge wiring from the battery thru the car to a distributor block and 4 guage to each amp, with each grounded individually.

if your main mono block has both input and output you can run a 2nd amp as a "slave" which will require a male to male rca plug and a second remote wire from one amp to a second.

splitters can work fine but are said to affect sound quality. you may want to invest in a x3 rca output headunit which can make everything a bit clear with all the wiring.

MR SPL
28-08-2011, 05:44 PM
Sorry man but you have used the worst brand of gear that i can think of. And the cap is a complete waste of money. With different gear this would be quite good

SH00T
28-08-2011, 06:16 PM
Sorry man but you have used the worst brand of gear that i can think of. And the cap is a complete waste of money. With different gear this would be quite good
Sad but true, but if that's as far as the budget stretched, so be it. I would have saved harder, but don't worry, you can only improve from here.

peaandham
28-08-2011, 06:19 PM
Why are you going to be trying to run 2x12's and 2x10's? IMO it will sound like ass especially having them both in the boot?

While Boss audio is quite a crap house brand i think that is the least of your concern at the moment. Run one pair of subs for starters, then you wont need another Mono.

z.spender
28-08-2011, 06:31 PM
lol fair enough, i bought a boss 4ch amp many years ago and it actually still goes well... that's why i have gone with boss, i could get pioneer or kenwood at not much more $ but boss is my 1st choice until i have a bad experience anywayz.. the 10's are basically to fill the gap until i get 2 more 12's then they will be cut out to fit 12's.. but 10's as good as it gets thus far. so i can get a distributor block, and run 1 mono from the other if it has the rca in and out? cool as... how many amps can a cap run? my plan was to run the 2 mono's but is this a no go? i respect the cap is a waist of time but im chasing sound and looks and imo i like the looks of the caps

MR SPL
28-08-2011, 06:36 PM
Sorry man you cant be saved lol Pick up a fire extinguisher soon, you will need it in the future

AmmoJammo
28-08-2011, 08:04 PM
are the woofers even in boxes?

z.spender
29-08-2011, 03:43 AM
Yeah. I've just built the surrounds to slide over the boxed subs

Woob
29-08-2011, 06:52 AM
Noise cancellation city is all I'll say. Have you considered that it is highly likely that your system will be louder with just the 2 subs, and definitely sound better? That goes whether they are the same subs throughout or not.

z.spender
29-08-2011, 12:31 PM
Haha woob I've been hoping you would stop by and give your advice. I've seen you know a $&@: load about sound systems. So maybe it would be plausible to replace the side boards with just boards and mount mono to 1 side and cap to the other. So having 4 subs is no advantage over having 2? Might have to go 2x 15"s then. I want big sound and flashy looks. I'd like to stay with boss though. I'm fond of boss

TimmyB
29-08-2011, 02:14 PM
1. Listen to some other brands besides Boss, Kenwood, and Pioneer, then decide if you're still fond of Boss.
2. Figure out what you want from your system, there is a massive difference between what you will get out of 10"s, 12"s, and 15"s.

Apart from that, good luck with it!

z.spender
29-08-2011, 04:08 PM
ok so what brand? i am open for suggestions! Ive seen allot of peeps are using rockford fosgate? so if im going to run 12"s ill be running 2, if i go 15"s ill run 2 and its probably too late to go with 4x 10"s as im not starting the whole boot again CBF.. so which brand of 15s? which amp to run them and i think my head unit has x sets of rca outputs. i listen to dub step,rap and hiphopapotemus.. money isnt too much of a drama but i wont be going nuts on it either because it will tattle apart anyways

Red Valdez
29-08-2011, 04:19 PM
Jump on www.mobileelectronics.com.au for recommendations. You can usually go better than the 'big' brands available at Autobarn and JB....

Woob
29-08-2011, 05:13 PM
Pair of 15s would be a pile of fun! There was a pair of RE SX 15" subs for sale on mobile electronics for $700, I was so bloody tempted to buy them (used to own one, they are crazy awesome subs). If they're still for sale you WILL NOT buy more show stopping, crazy fun subs for the price :)

Regarding the current setup, consider sound waves like normal waves, if 2 waves come from different directions, they crash into each other and reduce the power of the wave, whereas if 2 waves meet from the right direction, they combine to create a more powerful waves. With the dubs firing from different directions there is generally mass cancellation resulting in a muddy, quieter sound.

2 re sx 15s in a decent ported box in a magna with 2000w rms, should be good for a good 145+ db, which would sufficiently knock your block off :)

Also consider that most really great brands are ones that people usually haven't heard of, like RE (resonant engineering)

z.spender
29-08-2011, 05:29 PM
Pair of 15s would be a pile of fun!)

Also consider that most really great brands are ones that people usually haven't heard of, like RE (resonant engineering)

have you heard venom subs? my 10s are venom and F me they went real well, i bought them from pro disk entertainment years back. not sure if they still make them but i loved them

Woob
29-08-2011, 05:53 PM
They were most commonly sold at jaycar, for a bulk cheap sub they go alright loud, but their biggest weakness is that they sound like you've submerged them in water, they are a very sloppy and droney sub.

For comparison sake, I have probably had my single 10" jl sub louder than most people could manage to get a pair of 15" venoms

z.spender
29-08-2011, 06:36 PM
GRRR thanks for the heads up, at 1st i thought everyone was just being negative but its for good reason i guess. ill just run the 12" kenwoods for a while and re-style the sides.(no subs in sides) kind of a bummer but this is life

dkresto
31-08-2011, 02:21 PM
you will thank them for it when you hear them. there is such a thing as defined bass not just slop, which is what i have to live with in my system till the funds come back up to buy RE from the states.

z.spender
04-09-2011, 04:47 PM
ok so for now i have bought all new stuff... 2x kicker 12" 300rms comp subs in ported box, kicker 6x9s 100rms and alpine 2 ways 6.5" in the doors. boss audio 1100watt mono running the subs.. its all brand new and sounds the goods at the moment. the mono pushes the subs fine.. i dont need an amp for the 6x9s as they are set to -6 bass and +2 treble.. sounds great.. here are stats for each thing.
6.5" Alpine Doors. Power Handling

CEA-2031 Power Rating: 80 Watts
Power Handling Capacity (RMS): 80 Watts
Power Handling Capacity (Peak): 240 Watts
6x9s kickers. 6" x 9" 3-Way KS Series Car Speakers
Power Handling:

Peak: 600 watts per pair / 300 watts each
RMS: 200 watts per pair / 100 watts each

Injection molded polypropylene cone woofer
Santoprene surround
3/4" Titanium dome tweeter
Neodymium magnet with ferrofluid
4 ohms impedance

subs. http://www.kicker.com/compvr

Woob
04-09-2011, 07:58 PM
Good to hear you enjoy the sound, that's all that matters. I expect people will stick some negative comments below but take it with a grain of salt :)

AmmoJammo
04-09-2011, 08:39 PM
Boss is poo.