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Maat1985
18-09-2011, 08:48 AM
my car is sitting at 160k atm and when i got the car it was at 142k. i have no idea of its service history i do not any log book or anything. i am thinking that now when i get it serviced just to go the whole way and do the 200k service and then know i will not have to worry bout anything going bad due to not being serviced on time
any opinions????
also do i just tell the mechanic i am after a full 200km service early as i want to make sure he checks everything and changes all fluids......

also as i dont have a log book can anyone post a photo of the 200k service page please.....

MadMax
18-09-2011, 09:09 AM
Generally if you buy a car without a service record you can assume that it hasn't been serviced religiously. Plenty of Magnas for sale with close to 200,000 km on the clock with no service records because the owner has been frightened off by the costs involved at that mark.

Before you spend oodles of money, have a look under the bonnet at obvious places like the timing belt cover for a sticker saying when the belt needs doing. Aftermarket kits come with stickers for that purpose. If there is no sticker, have a look at the top two timing cover mounts, these are fragile and often break off the top bit of plastic surrounding the metal spacer when a belt is changed, if they are intact the belt probably hasn't been done. If you remove the top cover, and the writing on the belt has pretty much worn off (the smooth side of the belt runs on the pulley of the water pump and the idler/tensioner pulleys) you can be sure its the original belt.

If you going for the full job, including the timing belt kit, new exterior belts (if needed) and exterior idlers (if needed) and a full fluid change (including gearbox), spark plugs, air and fuel filters, it will cost you. Lots of labour time involved. If you go ahead, get a detailed receipt and keep it for when you want to sell the car, it will be worth much more with that work done.

Maat1985
18-09-2011, 05:09 PM
the only thing i know is that at 90,000km the timing belt was done. there is a sticker that says it was done. i would imagine i would be looking at about $2000 for all the work correct???? lets say i took out the timing belt kit and water pump but got the rest done approx how much would that save????? could always get most things done his time around and save the biggest expense until next service.....
so i would then be looking at a full fluid change, gearbox service, spark plugs & leads, air & fuel filters.
anything i have missed, o2 sensor, dizzy cap,
what is everything that is generally serviced and at what intervals for future reference. i know oil is approx 10,000kms, brake fluid, gearbox and coolant is 45,000km, spark plugs and leads are 90,000kms (platinum), air filter 45,000kms, timing belts kit, water pump, ext belts and idlers would be approx 100,000kms
fuel filter ????
o2 sensor ????
any items i have missed ??????

al.tj
19-09-2011, 09:29 AM
A lot of timing belt after market products recommend changing every 75k. How much noise is the car making and what is the fuel consumption like? If the car hasn't been serviced regularly, it might be better to get the timing belt done, check the plugs and leads yourself, clean the air filter(bang it on the ground a few times, unless its completely black and rooted), but the trans fluid change at Mitsubishi, and u want genuine fluid, is 88 bucks, depending on whether u have an external filter on the trans. While it's there, have them change the oil and brake fluid, so u have a invoice for it, and a starting point for future records and/or resale. There are so many different filters on these things, yr better off asking a dealer or someone u know in the biz which is the right one. But listen to the car. If it waqnts something it will start hacking down the road and pulling u into servo's every 350-400 k for fuel. One thing at a time is a good way to go, certain things make sense to get done together, plugs, leads and rocker cover gaskets, but start with fluids and go from there

VRX_000IBS
19-09-2011, 09:37 AM
why don't you get your basic service and get the 200,000km service when its due? no point having a 200,000km service if its not needed and when you do reach 200,000km all that gear would have driven 40,000kms...unless there is a "major" problem with the car's handling and performance i wouldn't personally get it done. but everyone is different. Cheers

Life
19-09-2011, 09:40 AM
why don't you get your basic service and get the 200,000km service when its due? no point having a 200,000km service if its not needed and when you do reach 200,000km all that gear would have driven 40,000kms...unless there is a "major" problem with the car's handling and performance i wouldn't personally get it done. but everyone is different. Cheers

This is a bad idea if the original owner did not do the 90,000. Better be safe then sorry, esp when it comes to interference engines. If the belt lets go you're up for a new engine.

VRX_000IBS
19-09-2011, 09:52 AM
This is a bad idea if the original owner did not do the 90,000. Better be safe then sorry, esp when it comes to interference engines. If the belt lets go you're up for a new engine.

but that's what I'm saying if he got a basic service couldn't they check all this to see if anything needs done? I'm sure they have a system where they could check parts if the last major service didn't get done?i personally wouldn't rush into a big service until i know it needs doing yeah?

Life
19-09-2011, 09:54 AM
That is not what was said above... Another thing to note is timing belt should be done every 100,000, or 5 years. Whichever comes first. It may be under 200,000 but may have been done 6 years ago.

VRX_000IBS
19-09-2011, 09:58 AM
That is not what was said above... Another thing to note is timing belt should be done every 100,000, or 5 years. Whichever comes first. It may be under 200,000 but may have been done 6 years ago.

Sorry mate i didn't read everyone's post. cheers for the correction :)

hako
19-09-2011, 10:14 AM
OP says the timing belt was done at 90,000km so you'd have to presume it had regular servicing up till that time and probably afterwards as well. I agree with VRX_000IBS that it would be logical to just go with the flow and continue with regular servicing.

VRX_000IBS
19-09-2011, 10:16 AM
OP says the timing belt was done at 90,000km so you'd have to presume it had regular servicing up till that time and probably afterwards as well. I agree with VRX_000IBS that it would be logical to just go with the flow and continue with regular servicing.

Cheers doesn't really matter what we say its the owners choice in the end. in my opinion if the car's running fine and not due for a current service i would just either leave it, or just take a basic service from a mechanic cost you $500 max for the big basic service depending who you go through

Life
19-09-2011, 10:17 AM
How long ago was it done though?

Maat1985
19-09-2011, 04:49 PM
the 90,000km service was in 06.
as far as the cars performance goes it drives and handles perfectly.... the only mechanical issue i have with the car is it has an exhaust leak which at this point i can't be bothered to fix.
the fuel consumption sits at around 450km per tank and i must say i am not a granny driver. it does appear to me that the car is fine and doesnt need more than a fluid service but i am not terribly mechanically minded so who knows.... since ownership of the car in around feb 2010 the only tihngs that have gone wrong have been my harmonic balancer went throwing out also the p/steer and alt belt, the exhaust leak that is still current and a broken thermostat that casued some overheating issues but atm that is wedged open. so the car must have been serviced well i suppose otherwise i would have had more issues than this i would say.....
the other thing i am tossing up on with is i could probably do with a wagon and mayb i should just give this a basic service buy a wagon and sell this......

jimbo
19-09-2011, 08:54 PM
If it were me I would check the colour of the transmission oil (if auto) and maybe change that. Plus put in fresh coolant when you replace your thermostat. Other than that just get a service book and follow it. Change the brake fluid as well if its been more than 2 years.

MadMax
19-09-2011, 09:05 PM
If the belt has been done at the right time there is no reason why normal servicing procedures relevant to the current Km on the speedo shouldn't be followed. Advancing service intervals has no advantage as far as making the car less prone to wearing out or being more reliable, but I would consider doing a transmission oil change if it is dirty, same for coolant and brake fluid.

(Like jimbo said. lol Should have read that and saved myself some typing. lol Sometimes my intelligence underwhelms me. :eek2:)