Can anyone tell me whether 19 x 9.5 wheels +45 offset with 245x35x19 tyres will fit under a 380 without modification to the car. Thanks in advance

I have 19 x 8.5 and they 'just' fit. I have kings lows allround and have had to modify my rear guards to stop rubbing with 3 passengers.
Mine are 38 offset which is the correct offset I believe.

A quick calculation in the head tells me if this car is lowered you will be slicing up your tyres on the guards & possibily rubbing on the suspension also. I can't recall anyone having wider than 8.5" & yep 38 offset is ideal.

i have 40 offset 20in. wheels on mine , with 245/30/20 , and there is not a scrape at all.... full lock both directions is fine, and with the car full of people there is no scraping...
lowered on pedders springs and no guard modifications...

plus 20's look better :)

Yeah Brad we know
size matters to you but the OP is talking about a width of wheel of 9.5"

My question is related to this: I'm hoping to fit tyres that are 245/40/19 on 8.5" wide rims...by my calc's the tyres are are 9.6" wide (i.e. 24.5/2.54): will this be an issue if the rims are only 8.5" wide? This means there's an extra 1.1" width in the tyre, or 0.57" on either side of the wheel (i.e. 1.5cm extra wide tyre on each side)....will this maybe "protect" the rim edges a bit from kerbs/etc...?

Just checkin a I've never put non-standard tyres/wheels on before ...

I guess it also depends on the offset? I've emailed the online seller to get info on the offset before I make the near-$2k purchase...

This is the difference between 19x8.5 et38 and 19x9.5 45et..

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/1604/imageyxqx.jpg

Seems the biggest problem would prob be on the suspension arms! They prob would fit under the guards though!

I also don't recall anyone having anything wider than 8.5, both in 19 and 20. Depending on non-factory suspension setup (ie how much lowered, etc) I reckon 9.0 might just fit in the rear, but not 9.5. My 8.5 stick out at the front about 2mm, so no way 9.5 would fit as far as I can imagine, unless massive guard-lipping done. (A staggered setup of 8.0s front and 9.0s rear would look nice and fill out both ends, but could never be rotated).

With coilovers it maybe possible but the offset would have to be spot on to suit & possibly different on the front to the rear.

My question is related to this: I'm hoping to fit tyres that are 245/40/19 on 8.5" wide rims...by my calc's the tyres are are 9.6" wide (i.e. 24.5/2.54): will this be an issue if the rims are only 8.5" wide? This means there's an extra 1.1" width in the tyre, or 0.57" on either side of the wheel (i.e. 1.5cm extra wide tyre on each side)....will this maybe "protect" the rim edges a bit from kerbs/etc...?

Just checkin a I've never put non-standard tyres/wheels on before ...

I guess it also depends on the offset? I've emailed the online seller to get info on the offset before I make the near-$2k purchase...

My tyres are 245/40/19 Michelin Pilot sport2 on 8.5 rims

okay - got work back from the dealer that the wheels I want are 42+ offset...
Anyone know if that's going to mean probs for me?

To recap: I want to put 245/40/19s on 8.5" wide rims (with the 42+offset): my spreadsheet calculations (I made up a spreadsheet) tells me that the tyres will now "expand" in towards the struts by about 11mm, and the edge of the tyres will move toward the external guards by 19mm...i calculated this by assuming the original rims were 38 offset (VRX 17" rims originally)...

is this enough clearance to not have shredding/rubbing?

That should be ok, my current rims are 8.5" 35mm offset & I have masses of room on the inside although I do have coilovers. Those rims will sit 7mm more in towards the suspension which would be ok on my car so should be right on yours.

That should be ok, my current rims are 8.5" 35mm offset & I have masses of room on the inside although I do have coilovers. Those rims will sit 7mm more in towards the suspension which would be ok on my car so should be right on yours.

Thanks Fooz...the online retailer just emailed to say they won't supply those wheels with 245/40/19s as they "may" rub...:confused:

the reason I wanted the 245/40/19s is for that little bit extra side wall height and "cushioning"...not sure if it helps much at that size rim or not...but i've heard 245/35/19s can be a bit harsh...i still gotta take my elderly momma to the shops every now and then and she has already slipped a couple of discs in her back...don't want to add to that tally :eek2:

maybe i should play it safe and just get 18s...:cry:

hmmm...

what exactly is the original mitsu 17"x 7" wheel offset? is it 38? the CSA wheel catalogue says its 45...

The Ralliart rims are 17" & +46 offset.

By my research the approx. side wall heights for 19" tyres are...
225/40 - 90mm
235/35 - 82mm
235/40 - 94mm
245/35 - 86mm

I fitted the 40 profile for that very reason. Ride is ok.

Thanks Fooz...the online retailer just emailed to say they won't supply those wheels with 245/40/19s as they "may" rub...:confused:

the reason I wanted the 245/40/19s is for that little bit extra side wall height and "cushioning"...not sure if it helps much at that size rim or not...but i've heard 245/35/19s can be a bit harsh...i still gotta take my elderly momma to the shops every now and then and she has already slipped a couple of discs in her back...don't want to add to that tally :eek2:

maybe i should play it safe and just get 18s...:cry:

hmmm...

what exactly is the original mitsu 17"x 7" wheel offset? is it 38? the CSA wheel catalogue says its 45...

lol the chrome wheels I sold a little while back were 19x8.5" & the tyres 245/40/19 same as you are looking at. These wheels were 35 offset & yes I did roll the guards a little but the car was also lowered about 70mm on coilovers!!

The 42mm offset will sit them in 7mm more than mine & unless you are dropping it on its guts with coilovers I reckon I could comfortably say they wouldn't rub. Saying that I know I have plenty of inner clearance with the coilovers but not sure how much clearance you would have with the normal suspension setup. Maybe someone else with 8.5" rims could comment on their inner clearance????

I just know these would fit my car as it is with no rubbing!

hmmm...i think i'll refrain from online sellers for this...prob better to go with a local tyre/wheel person so that there is some kind of after-purchase care/customer service in case there are any issues...

went to the local goodyear shop and they seemed helpful. not that much more expensive than the online guys which was surprising (talkin 245/40/19s with kumho KU31s for just on about 2k including the rims i like - am i bein ripped off or does this sound good?).

Price seems about right. I think I paid a similar price for my 19's plus tyres. You can pay less for packages but the rubber is usually chinese crapp
If you go with say BJ you get free rotation and balancing after 6 months I think. I originally ordered 8" but they sent 8.5"
I got 3 fitters to sit in the car to check rubbing/clearance before I paid. Even so they did rub very slightly on the rears with 3 passengers.

......(talkin 245/40/19s with kumho KU31s for just on about 2k including the rims i like...
For 19" rims & tyres that sounds reasonable, (depending on what rims & what tyres of course)
Did they tell you how much the rims are by themselves and/or how much the tyres are by themselves, I'd be interested in how much the Kumho's are without the rims.

I have had 18x8 rims 20x7.5 and currently 19x8 on mine and no problems coming to think of it i have gone through 5 sets of wheels this year
19x9.5 will not go bro infact 20x8.5 fitted but i had to run a 225/35r20 to make it fit problem was load rating wasnt legal

I'm also curious how much for the Kumho's in that size, as my Falkens are very near replacement-time and I've heard Kumho are a good tyre.

That wasn't such a bad price. The wheels i want are 18x8 and alone are $2350
... then again. I have expensive taste.

I have had 18x8 rims 20x7.5 and currently 19x8 on mine and no problems coming to think of it i have gone through 5 sets of wheels this year
19x9.5 will not go bro infact 20x8.5 fitted but i had to run a 225/35r20 to make it fit problem was load rating wasnt legal

hey man. just a heads up this is in the 380 section... so load rating is different. and also what will fit etc is different :P

For 19" rims & tyres that sounds reasonable, (depending on what rims & what tyres of course)
Did they tell you how much the rims are by themselves and/or how much the tyres are by themselves, I'd be interested in how much the Kumho's are without the rims.
Rims were 250 ea and tyres 1100 for the 4. KU31s...

Hi All, finished up buying a set of 20x8.5 with 245x35x20 tyres. They are on the car and dont have any clearance issues. Next question is whether I can fit Super Low or Low springs, rarely more than one person in the car , but do tow a box trailer occasionally.
Thanks in advance for any help

Hi All, finished up buying a set of 20x8.5 with 245x35x20 tyres. They are on the car and dont have any clearance issues. Next question is whether I can fit Super Low or Low springs, rarely more than one person in the car , but do tow a box trailer occasionally.
Thanks in advance for any help

I had 245/35/19s then 245/30/20s on my car, with Kings superlows on the front and lows on the back.
Both with +38 offset.

Both fitted with no problems at all.

BUT, 245/35/20s will be a problem on the rear with lows, let alone superlows.
Even without any wieght in the back or towing they will rub on the rear wheel arches.

So you have two choices - stick with standard height springs on the rear, which is probably your best bet for towing, or get the arches rolled.

Just a reminder that getting arches rolled is not straightforward. I tried 3 or 4 places who would not do it as the arches are double skinned. I did the rears myself very carefully but now notice the paint is cracking away around that area.
I have issues with rubbing with rear passengers and I have lows all round

I had 245/35/19s then 245/30/20s on my car, with Kings superlows on the front and lows on the back.
Both with +38 offset.

Both fitted with no problems at all.

BUT, 245/35/20s will be a problem on the rear with lows, let alone superlows.
Even without any wieght in the back or towing they will rub on the rear wheel arches.
So you have two choices - stick with standard height springs on the rear, which is probably your best bet for towing, or get the arches rolled.
KJ... not true.
the tyre size isnt the primary determinant of the issue. its the combination of width of rim and also the tyres.properties.
with my 8" wide 20s and 345/35/20s both sets and lows in the rear. ive only had a problem with rubbing when i had three people in the 90-100kg range in the back.

rex2ce what you are asking is very hard to determine as there are so many things that will affect the issue. off the top of my head. rim width, rim offset, tyre size, tyre design, spring chosen, style of trailer (2 axle vs 1) weight distribution in trailer, whether you have 50KG of audio gear in the boot. see what im getting at? the only way you'll know for sure is do it. and if you cant afford the risk then stay with the safe stock option.

Cheers,

Jamie

KJ... not true.
the tyre size isnt the primary determinant of the issue. its the combination of width of rim and also the tyres.properties.
with my 8" wide 20s and 345/35/20s both sets and lows in the rear. ive only had a problem with rubbing when i had three people in the 90-100kg range in the back.

rex2ce what you are asking is very hard to determine as there are so many things that will affect the issue. off the top of my head. rim width, rim offset, tyre size, tyre design, spring chosen, style of trailer (2 axle vs 1) weight distribution in trailer, whether you have 50KG of audio gear in the boot. see what im getting at? the only way you'll know for sure is do it. and if you cant afford the risk then stay with the safe stock option.

Cheers,

Jamie

Yep, fair 'nuf, all variables need to be factored in. Just sayin' that 245/35/20s would have rubbed on my car for sure. What I didn't mention was that 245/40/19s rubbed like a mofo, and lasted about 2k (that's two kilometres) before I replaced them with 245/35/19s.
You have/had 345/35/20s???? Geez, that's wide! Only joshin.

KJ.