Hay all

My 3.5l magna wont start. I drove the car for a couple of days and i havent driven it in about 2 days and went to start it today. U can hear the starter motor trying to start but the actual engine wont turn over my batterys fine my fuel pumps fine swaped that over with my mates working fuel pump. Im not shore wats the problem can someone please help.?

Kurt

Check your terminals.. They may be dirty..

You SURE your battery is okay..?

SuFz :ninja:

Sounds like battery is flat to me.

Sounds like battery is flat to me.

could be starter motor as well, so, battery, starter motor. and at the very worst, if the engine is trying to turn over, main crank bearing can do this too (at the very worst)

Does it just make a single click noise when you turn the key?

I had this in a previous car and it was something in the starter motor sticking / not working properly.

My solution for the next 3 years was to pick any gear, clutch in, push the car with my foot like a skate board only about 10 cm and pop the clutch while it's moving.
This turns the engine (and starter motor gear?) just slightly, clutch in, turn key and it starts up normally.

maybe yours is the same? Hopefully you've got a manual and can try this trick. Hopefully too your thigh muscles are double the size of mine, because I did this in a little (900kg?) Daihatsu and a Magna will be a bit more difficult.

My permanent solution, 3 years later, was to sell the car :) ie: I do not know what the cause really was.
But less drastically I'd look at the starter motor first.

mine was the starter motor, it turned the engine part of a turn but didn't have enough to start it, I thought it was an almost dead battery

Get a volt meter check the battery voltage. Start the car while you got the volt meter on the car if voltages goes down to i think 1-2 V you may have a shorted cell in the battery. Next thing check for spark, you can check to see if power transistor is working by check with volt meter, you can check the coil as well, those two things are cover in service manual(link in my signature) check to see if BEM is plug in right, last thing to check was crank angle sensor as a mate discovery that his one check fine with a meter and was broken. His car would try to start have no spark and not turn over. I think that covers most thing :)

I know its obvious, but it does have fuel in the tank doesn't it...

Try jump start with a friend. Honestly many times you think a battery is fine and it isn't.


For best helping diagnosis, post a video so we can hear what's going on.

It has plenty fuel. Yeh the battery seems fine cranks the starter motor hard. U can hear the starter motor aswell. Its so hard to pick up wat this is. I dont know if this is a possible cause. I lost my keys about a month ago a close friend cut me some new one. The key has some chip thats in it that he told me he had to get my cars vin number i think. Ends up were not friends anymore for personal reasons could he possibly done something that could cut of my power or something with that key.??

Jump started it a couple of times and nothing still. So frusterating.

You slept with his GF, didn't you.... Naughty boy kurt.. Naughty Boy..

Back on topic...

Its unlikely that he could have done something with the key, unless he recoded one and recoded your car or something hectic like that..

Possibly not getting spark..?

Have you checked that you're getting fuel to the rail..?

Im just stabbing in the dark here..

SuFz :ninja:

Meh check the dizzy cap, pull out a spark plug, crank and see if you got spark :/ Duh lol

OK bingo on the key.. Magnas have an immobiliser chip in them, without that chip, car wont' start.. precisely so you can't copy keys or hotwire.


You will need to take it to a stealership to get a new key and get it coded so the car recognizses, which is usually quite expensive some $100-$250.



I'm curious though.. how did you cut a key if you lost the original?

The guy who made me a new key. He put an immobiliser chip or something in the new key. I think thats why he was getting my vin and stuff from my car when he was making me a new key. Does this sound correct? Unless hes somehow turned the immobiliser off in the key so it dosent start if he can do that?

yeh with vin only a dealer can cut and code a key for u.. had this done for me before

if this key has already been used to successfully start ur car id say the key is fine

time to start checking the basics... fuel and spark to start with

Alright guys problem fixed. I threw my keys on the ground out of frusteration and was looking around the engine pay. Thought id try to see if the car would start again bang starts. I think its a dodgy chip in my key but it works now thank god.

You slept with his GF, didn't you.... Naughty boy kurt.. Naughty Boy..

Back on topic...

Its unlikely that he could have done something with the key, unless he recoded one and recoded your car or something hectic like that..

Possibly not getting spark..?

Have you checked that you're getting fuel to the rail..?

Im just stabbing in the dark here..

SuFz :ninja:
lol. Yeh Well he was asking for it with the dodgy key lol

nobody has mentioned the starter relay. Not the starter solonoid. The starter relay in the relay box ( the ignition activates to power the starter' built in solonoid, well hanging off the side lol)

That will give you a no start with a good battery or jumpered. Just go to the relay box & switch the suss one with one of the others easy & cheap to check. Failing that the starter is probable cause IMHO

Um, he already fixed the problem^ was the key malfunctioning