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Troutman
27-10-2011, 08:11 PM
I just want to share my lucky break: After towing a full load to the tip, then going up and down hills and through traffic, I had just dropped off the trailer then tried to stop in the driveway. Alas, the foot went to the floor; I could pump the pedal to build up the pressure, but not for long.

It turns out one of the metal brake lines along the firewall had corroded to the point of bursting. Impossible to check them though; this one corroded behind the booster, I initially though the leak was from the booster or master cylinder. The brakes experts discovered otherwise.

GTVi
27-10-2011, 08:30 PM
Same thing happened to Boost King here in SA...LINK HERE (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=87464&p=1417216&viewfull=1#post1417216)

Ziek
28-10-2011, 07:09 AM
Take the car to mitsu, there was a recall on these model magnas with this issue, sounds like your wasent taken in when the recall was sent out, but you can still get this issue fixed at mitsu for nothing

Boost King
28-10-2011, 08:10 AM
Take the car to mitsu, there was a recall on these model magnas with this issue, sounds like your wasent taken in when the recall was sent out, but you can still get this issue fixed at mitsu for nothing

Actually Mitsi wont fix it because its far too old, were talking 10 years now. Trust me, I tried.

I had all brake and fuel lines replaced cause they were rusted solid. And also, my car did go back in 2003 to get them replaced and the new ones still rusted again.

Thanks Bill for the link, see my thread and you may as well replace the lot.

Mitsubishi did the Brake and Fuel lines together whole job around $600 from memory. I have the receipt if needed.

Ziek
28-10-2011, 08:25 AM
wow, i went in for a tranny service a few months back before the manual conversion and the mitsu dealer where I'm at did the brake lines as well because of the recall, i must have had a generous dealer. but then, i think if there is a recall on a model car the dealership is obligated to do the specified work regardless of age of the car, i could be wrong, but even mitsu here in Mackay told me the same thing. But in mackay you never get a straight answer lol

MadMax
28-10-2011, 08:37 AM
Is this atmospheric water rusting the lines, or road splash because people have left the splash guards off?

Which model(s) / year(s) are affected?

Which model(s) / year(s) does the recall apply to?

Mmmmm - must check my TJ, and TS.

Having had total brake failure before on a non Mitsu car through a front caliper shattering I must say it's not a funny feeling. Close to home, low speed, slowing for a red traffic light fortunately, drove the rest of the way using the handbrake only. NOT FUN!

Madmagna
28-10-2011, 08:46 AM
THere was a recal, if the recal was carried out and then the problem has presented again some years later, you would find it hard to get this fixed as Boostking found out

IF however the reacall is still outstanding, does not matter if the car is 100 years old, Mits are still required to rectify the recall. I have had 380's and other cars come in, when I get the radio codes from my local dealer, we often joke about any outstanding recalls some may have on the car cars

Boost King
28-10-2011, 09:34 AM
Is this atmospheric water rusting the lines, or road splash because people have left the splash guards off?

Which model(s) / year(s) are affected?

Which model(s) / year(s) does the recall apply to?



Lol, this is Australia and we have a very dry climate, no snow, no salt on roads, rust shouldn't be an issue for minimum 10 years. My HQ was 35 years old when my lines rusted out and pedal hit the floor, so I was shocked to hear of a 9 year old car with the issue.

Mitsi told me it affected TJ Series 1 and TJ2, ie early 02 models, but the official TJ Series 2's were fine.

I have a TJ Series 2 advance and lines are clean as a whistle, my Series 1.5 so to speak was well, effed.

The years would be late 2000-2002 (early). If in doubt, just check with your dealer.

Boosty

MadMax
28-10-2011, 09:45 AM
*groan*

I have a TJ Series 1, August 2001, being used by my daughter to ferry 4 grandkids around at the moment, definitely will check.

On the other hand, this car went through the full set of Regency Park checks less than a year ago, while on the hoist I had a quick look, nothing out of the ordinary there. Still worth checking though.

Boost King
28-10-2011, 11:24 AM
Ok, best way to check, look under passengers side of the car.

If they look like this, their stuffed:
http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/9068/p1120670v.jpg

They should look like this:
http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/9495/p1120697v.jpg

Hope that helps.

Boosty

xclackers
28-10-2011, 11:48 AM
Holy S*** that's all i can say. Ill check out my 02 in the morning.

GTVi
28-10-2011, 12:09 PM
Boost King, Just looking at your photos under the passenger side, its more than just the break lines that are rusted...you have a fair bit of surface rust on the panel surface...almost like your car may have been driven on the beach or used to load a small boat into water etc....

hako
28-10-2011, 07:51 PM
I don't understand this - Magna's, like all modern cars have split braking systems - if the front fails the rears are OK or vice versa - with diagonal split braking on some cars you have the other half of the diagonal - you must still have approx 50% braking left....the master cylinder is of twin piston design with separate hydraulic circuits yet the examples above indicate total brake failure. Can someone explain please.

mightymag
29-10-2011, 01:12 PM
Brake Failure (http://www.recalls.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/955312)
Electrical Failure (http://www.recalls.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/956028)
Corrosion/ fuel leak (http://www.recalls.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/957068)
TL TW Electric seat Failure (http://www.recalls.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/957168)
Brake line fault (http://www.recalls.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/957106)
Steering Failure (http://www.recalls.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/957083)

Thats the recalls for 3rd Gen magna's PHEWW not as many as commodore or falcons and ML Mercs

rankamateur
29-10-2011, 04:15 PM
looking at all those recall links it looks like Mitsibishi closed all recall programs on 26th August 2010 so all bet are off after that date.

Troutman
30-10-2011, 12:12 PM
For those wanting to know, all of the lines on my '98 Verada look fine (nothing like those in the photo), but the corrosion was found just as a spot where the line was against the firewall behind the brake booster; the line was leading to the ABS towards the passenger side. The previous owner, from new, was fastidious and bought locally, so I imagine a recall would not have been ignored. Would a recall sticker be evident?

DeanoTS
30-10-2011, 06:32 PM
Why did this happen to the TJ model? did mitsubishi try to save a few dollars and use poor quality brake lines? I guess so as they used poor quality paint too, I have a 1991 KR in my backyard that has been out in the weather for years and the paint on it isn't as bad as some much newer Magna /Veradas. No wonder they went broke, they did make a good car at one stage but looks like the wheels fell off.