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tommy21
30-11-2011, 09:11 PM
Hi all
i am currently thinking of doing a rear brake conversion from my ralli///art rear brakes to awd rear brakes.
now i know there isn't much difference in the to but i would like to do it for the following reasons
1. rotors are easier to source
2. i have slotted rear rotors at home for awd
3. wanted to go slotted all over but is impossible to find slotted rotors to fit ralli///arts
4. i don't like the look of only slotted on the front
i could put slotted awd rear rotors on the back, but this would require me putting in a 3mm spacer behind top hat and not really keen on that idea.
IMHO i can see no reasons to why this wouldn't work
cheers thomas
maggie3.5
30-11-2011, 09:17 PM
So,what are you trying to say ?
You have and know all the facts,so,what is the issue ?
tommy21
30-11-2011, 09:22 PM
just wanted to confirm if it could be done as the only reason the awd rotors wont go on ralli///art is because they hit and foul up on the handbrake line
I thought the ralliart used the AWD rear brakes already?
ih8hsv
01-12-2011, 05:51 AM
I thought the ralliart used the AWD rear brakes already?
:stoopid: :bowdown:
HaydenVRX
01-12-2011, 05:58 AM
as far as i know they are the exact same....
Rallislashslashslashslashart definately has vented rears come to think of it.
maggie3.5
01-12-2011, 06:55 AM
Gee, get your facts right, it has nothing to do with anything hitting cables WTF,how is a disc supposed to touch a handbrake cable,good grief.
The whole point is that you want slotted rotors, and the only way you can fit them is to use AWD ones,which you have,so,therefore the only way to fit these said slotted rotors is to fit the spacer,end of story.
The difference between the AWD and Ralliart brakes is in the rotors,and that is in the hat size...they are BOTH ventilated and both set ups use the same calipers.
tommy21
01-12-2011, 07:33 AM
but because of the difference in the top hats the awd rotors go too deep in and foul up the hand brake cable.
Now i don't wish to run the awd rotors with a 3mm spacer behind the top hat, as
It is dangerous and stupid really
No disrespect meant but they are the facts i have come across, yes they are both vented etc. Etc. But will not go straight on
HOOKUPOZ
01-12-2011, 07:52 AM
To answer your question or lack there of, the only way to use the awd rotors is to use a spacer. Changing the callipers will make no difference as they are the same as the ones already fitted to your car.
Cheers Luke
Madmagna
01-12-2011, 08:22 AM
To answer your question or lack there of, the only way to use the awd rotors is to use a spacer. Changing the callipers will make no difference as they are the same as the ones already fitted to your car.
Cheers Luke
Exactly
Caliper spacing, bracket, pad size are identical.
Rotor dia and thickness again is identical, only difference is the top hat so this will require a spacer. There is no other way around this other than getting new Ralliart Rotors which are only available from Mitsubishi
tommy21
01-12-2011, 08:50 AM
ok thanks all
I'd suggest doing some investigations into this spacer.
From memory, wheel spacers are illegal and considered dangerous. However, these are wheel spacers that go over the wheel studs and space the wheel off the hub / disc.
Having a spacer behind the disc may be a lot safer than wheel spacers, and I do think it is legal, although I can't remember where or exactly what I read, only that there was a difference between the two types.
Oh, and as long as there's still ample stud thread for the wheel nuts of course!
Madmagna
01-12-2011, 11:50 AM
IT is 3.7mm, has a lip machined on the spacer to hold the rotor properly as well, while you need at least 6 turns of the wheel nut to be safe, it is not the wheel nut which holds on the wheel, it is the centre hub, the nuts just hold the wheel to the hub and ideally should not be taking the weight as such
The spacer on a technical note is really deemed illegal unless engineered, lest face it, you are still changing the offset and spacing things out which can in theory place more load on bearings etc, no different to using differnt offset wheels
Personally I wont use these on my car, but many many people do
doddski
02-12-2011, 04:12 PM
I just had a thought about this,
You allready have clearance isues out the back with the mags rubbing on the flares - spacing the wheels out FURTHER will make this much worse, instead of the occcasional scrape you will get LOTS of scrape all the time... not good for all parts involved there really...
tommy21
03-12-2011, 09:14 AM
I just had a thought about this,
You allready have clearance isues out the back with the mags rubbing on the flares - spacing the wheels out FURTHER will make this much worse, instead of the occcasional scrape you will get LOTS of scrape all the time... not good for all parts involved there really...
highly agreed
perry
03-12-2011, 03:29 PM
anyone know the part no. for the ralliart rear rotors
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