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Tim-E
03-08-2004, 10:20 PM
This is a problem that i have had in my car ever since i bought it, but its getting worse so i think its about time i got to the bottom of it and fixed it.
OK, when indicating left, if i just tap up the stalk like on any other car, the indicators do not work, but instead all i hear is a buzzing sound. If i carefully "grab" the stalk and push it up gently the indicators will work and i can let it go and it stays there. however if i push it just that little bit more, it buzzes and stops working.
This has meant that basically for 2 years whenever i have had to indicate left i cant just tap the stalk i have to grab it between 2 fingers and "place" it in position. I have gotten used to it and dont think much of it. It however seems to be getting more and more sensitive.
When the problem was first noticed i had my local "rip-off" mitsu dealer take a look and he said it was a fairly common problem on magnas but cost something like $400 to fix. New flasher unit or something or other. So i put up with it.
Anyone had any similar experiences? When it comes to auto electics, i am lost, completely!
common problem ??
ive never heard of it before
Tim-E
03-08-2004, 10:49 PM
to be honest i dont remember exactly what the guy said. Maybe not "common" problem but i am certain he gave me the impression it wasnt the first case he had seen on a magna.
This was at mitsubishi/motorama at toowong Brisbane, i would take it back for them to take a look again but i wouldnt be surprised if they charged the earth just for a quick look...bloody rip offs!
Going on his original quote of $400 i reckon that equated to easily under $200 somewhere else lol
try a wreakers, alot cheaper then genuine
Chief
03-08-2004, 10:56 PM
I'm not sure but I think my auntys Magna does something similar to this. Hers I think clicks at a million times a minute which is quite easy to resolve.
My parents 96 Magna does that.
Makes a buzzing noise when you flick the indicator on.
Grecy
04-08-2004, 08:21 AM
My 96 TE did exactly the same thing when I bought it.
When I took it in for repair I said to the guy "When I flick the indicator it.." - right there he cuts me off and says "buzzes".
I guess it is pretty common.
New indicator stalk was $375 genuine. (under warantee for me)
-Dan
choonga
04-08-2004, 08:47 AM
my mate 96 TE does that too
Mine also does this, but its only happened about twice so far. It buzzes when u gently push up the stalk, it buzzes, sorta like a light switch, you gently push it so its nearly in contact (if u get what i mean). However, if u push it further, the indicators will turn on, so all is good. Indicators have never stopped working before. All good :)
Tim-E
04-08-2004, 09:25 AM
bloody TE's lol
well i guess i will be heading to the wreckers for a 2nd hand stalk soon. Hmmmm however that might be risky seeing that a few people have had the same experience :nuts:
but i cant justify $375 for just an indicator stalk!! i wonder if they are easy to put on and take off :doubt:
teK--
04-08-2004, 10:22 AM
Electrical contacts inside stalk probably need cleaning; when you have poor contacts sparking occurs. Pull the thing apart and clean with CRC contact cleaner.
its not only magna's that do it...
i've knoown of a few different cars which have done this - mostly was due to a large buildup of dust in the indicator stalk which may co-incide with what tek was saying in his post :)
HyperTF
04-08-2004, 11:34 AM
No reflection on you, but my TF does this often, but it is usually when I am being lazy and not pushing that stalk into the correct position quick and firmly enough instead just pushing it with a finger gently or something like that. Though as teK says, contact cleaning sounds like the logical first place to rectify this. Let us know.
poko_pano
04-08-2004, 12:46 PM
dunno if ur problem is the same as wat i used to have but it buzzes when i indicated right n instead of normal headlights turnin on, the high beams will come on with only 2 clicks :nuts: but anyway took it to my machinic n he told me to buy a fuse or somthing.... cost like under $20 if i rm correctly but deffinatly under $400... n he replaced the old with the new at the service....
by the way im in perth n my cars a TE as well
Tim-E
04-08-2004, 01:26 PM
dunno if ur problem is the same as wat i used to have but it buzzes when i indicated right n instead of normal headlights turnin on, the high beams will come on with only 2 clicks :nuts: but anyway took it to my machinic n he told me to buy a fuse or somthing...
flasher unit perhaps? they are about $20. what do flasher units do?
poko_pano
04-08-2004, 01:31 PM
i seriously dont know hahha
as i wasnt there when he repaired it
but if u want ill give him a call n see if he still remembers wat he did with it!!
by the way do u expericene the problem with the headlights only switching on to high beam instead of normal.....???
i still get it sometimes but i just pull the lever back to where the high beam position is.. lock it in .. do it a few for times n its bak workin again
dunno if this will help with ur indicator problems though
soorri :confused:
philsTH
04-08-2004, 07:56 PM
I've had it happen a couple of times in my TH but only when I gently push the stalk to briefly indicate, the contacts don't make properly and it chatters loudly.
Provided the contacts are not damaged from constant chattering give them a clean and check they close firmly.
A flasher unit is what makes the indicators blink off and on. It is fitted in series with the power feed to the indicator switch.
An old simple type has a bimetalic strip in them that heats up with current flow and bends away from the contact opening the circuit (light off), since there is no current flowing the strip cools down and straightens out making contact (light on),and so on.
You may have noticed on older cars when a trailer is hooked up, the extra indicator light increases current flow causing the flasher to switch quicker, making ligts blink faster.
Don't have those problems with the more tech flashers in the new wiz bang modern car.
Damien
04-08-2004, 08:58 PM
NO NO NO!!! DON'T BUY A REPLACEMENT!!!
I had the exact same problem, when you go to indicate the lights don't flash and you get a buzzing sound, yeah? Well it is REALLY simple to fix and will cost you NOTHING! I told my Dad what was happening, he goes "yep, poor contact in the stalk", he pulls the steering shaft cover off, pulls out the stalk assembly, cleans the contacts with CRC and I think he physically adjusted them a little (bent them in or something). Sure enough, all fixed, haven't had a single buzz come from it since, and that was about 6 or 9 months ago.
Tim-E
05-08-2004, 09:08 AM
NO NO NO!!! DON'T BUY A REPLACEMENT!!!
I had the exact same problem, when you go to indicate the lights don't flash and you get a buzzing sound, yeah? Well it is REALLY simple to fix and will cost you NOTHING! I told my Dad what was happening, he goes "yep, poor contact in the stalk", he pulls the steering shaft cover off, pulls out the stalk assembly, cleans the contacts with CRC and I think he physically adjusted them a little (bent them in or something). Sure enough, all fixed, haven't had a single buzz come from it since, and that was about 6 or 9 months ago.
sweet, now for removing the indicator stalk......jeez that will be fun :redface:
EDIT:
edit: someone sent me a PDF file with lots of information from their manual earlier this year. It was regarding removing the front bumper then. Anyway, does anyone have that file cos i think it would give instructions on removing the indicator stalk
Damien
05-08-2004, 05:57 PM
Dude, it's not hard and you won't need instructions - we didn't. Just undo the screws that hold the steering shaft cover on and go from there. It's a piece of piss to get out.
Oh, and most service manuals tell you to take the steering wheel off - well that's a load of crap, cause I have NEVER taken my steering wheel off.
Seriously mate, it's a 10 minute job.
tooSlow
05-08-2004, 06:18 PM
$375 sounds excessive. I investigated the verada one for the fog lamp switch and it was only $190 ... can't see how the executive one would be more expensive.
Tim-E
05-08-2004, 07:12 PM
Dude, it's not hard and you won't need instructions - we didn't. Just undo the screws that hold the steering shaft cover on and go from there. It's a piece of piss to get out.
Oh, and most service manuals tell you to take the steering wheel off - well that's a load of crap, cause I have NEVER taken my steering wheel off.
Seriously mate, it's a 10 minute job.
3 screws?
i've got 3 screws off and it seems looser but its not comin off. Is quite a bit of force needed? I dont wanna break something
:doubt:
mike481050
07-08-2004, 08:21 AM
from memory covers off. One screw above lever. One screw below lever. Prise apart large electrical connector. I needed thin bladed screwdriver to assist. Indicator stalk to kitchen table. carefully take apart plastic base remembering where and how springs etc went. take green scouring pad (dry) and gently clean electrical contacts. Reassemble screw back into car. Use without any further buzzing for next 3 years.
heydude
08-08-2004, 07:46 PM
I had the same problem in both my TE's but turning right signal, and as Damien said it is a clean up job, I found out that my liberal use of armour all on the dash board is my problem and it was getting into the contacts, whoopsee. :redface:
I had the same buzzing noise when indicating and put it in to the garage to be repaired. They changed me 40 bucks and in my opinion made it worse. Having read this forum thread i had a go myself and fixed it perfectly in about 20 mins. Only wish i had read up earlier..
I have the same problem with mine now. It started happening last week.
Nexus
25-01-2007, 11:46 PM
I have taken out my stalk tried cleaning but there doesnt seem to be any progress? Do I need to bend the contacts?
Anyway, I was at a wrecker another day and asked for a replacement stalk and they asked whats wrong with mine and told them about the buzz. They told me is the Repeater relay that it spoiled and I dont need to change it, so now I am not sure which way to go about.
Nexus
26-01-2007, 09:31 AM
Anyone?
The buzz is getting worse sometimes. So I am wondering it it the repeater relay or the contacts? as for cleaning, do I need to bend them as well?
Mr_Roberto
26-01-2007, 09:34 AM
a few people have been have the same trouble you are
they have just taken out the stack and cleaned the connectors
might be the same in your case
Nexus
26-01-2007, 02:16 PM
I took out the stalk and tried, no difference.
I located the noise is coming from the flasher Relay unit, part no MR252921
Going to dealers to see how much it cost to replace that.
Rob_D
26-01-2007, 06:10 PM
I took out the stalk and tried, no difference.
I located the noise is coming from the flasher Relay unit, part no MR252921
Going to dealers to see how much it cost to replace that.
Autobarn, Repco etc will also sell you a flasher can.
Rob
Nexus
26-01-2007, 06:23 PM
Autobarn, Repco etc will also sell you a flasher can.
Rob
Whats the price may I ask? I know some of these cost up to $30 or more
Nexus
27-01-2007, 09:59 AM
Well for those who tried cleaning and still no success, try changing the Flasher Relay in the car situated just above the fuse in the car.
Mitsubishi charges $70 for it!
No, get it from Super Cheap for $30.00
Tridon EP34PAC, Two year guarantee suitable for All Magnas from TN-TJ series.
I still get a bit of buzz but is a big improvement.:P
uuz403
29-03-2007, 07:23 PM
have to clean the contacts and adjusted them for sure
Nexus
29-03-2007, 08:13 PM
have to clean the contacts and adjusted them for sure
I do not see how you can really clean them as is very difficult to reach each contact, and what do you use to clean?
MagTech
29-03-2007, 09:06 PM
It seems a very common problem...I had that same problem also butI manage to get a replacement from a wrecker for $60. I also suspected the flasher for a while but I then realized it's the stalker, it was all gone after I replaced it.
uuz403
29-03-2007, 09:29 PM
I do not see how you can really clean them as is very difficult to reach each contact, and what do you use to clean?
used newspaper :D (duno good or not), and the most important thing is adjusted them a little (bent them), it will not work if just cleaned it, so i try to adjust them and it worked.
adizz131
30-05-2010, 12:25 PM
I had the same issue in my car.
supercheap down my way didnt sell the tridon relay anymore.
but sprint auto parts said that the Narva fuse would fit... which it didnt...NARVA Part Number 68236BL DOES NOT WORK
just letting everyone know.
now i will have to search around for one that works, and if none work then i will have to to Mitsubishi and pay alot for a new one,
mcs_xi
31-05-2010, 10:18 AM
The issue is a fautly contact in the flasher unit. It wears away and doesnt make a proper contact. It looks like a divit. I just repaired an 'Auto' position stalk.
Its actually easy to fix, you just need a replacement stalk. Any base model one will do as you can swap either the foglight stalk or auto with foglight stalk over to the base. I will maybe post up some pictures of the problem if anyone is keen.
Mike
DynamiteZerg
31-05-2010, 07:37 PM
The issue is a fautly contact in the flasher unit. It wears away and doesnt make a proper contact. It looks like a divit. I just repaired an 'Auto' position stalk.
Its actually easy to fix, you just need a replacement stalk. Any base model one will do as you can swap either the foglight stalk or auto with foglight stalk over to the base. I will maybe post up some pictures of the problem if anyone is keen.
Mike
Maybe I should keep my normal stalk as a spare backup!
Ishrub
31-05-2010, 11:26 PM
Lancercity should be able to help.
If you dont need one with foglight switch.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=160438995831&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
But they also have ones with foglight switch as does Dynamitezerg in FS thread
mcs_xi
01-06-2010, 10:41 AM
in all cases, it is only the base part of the stalk assembly that is needed to be replaced. It can come from any 3rd gen and if needed, the stalk with foglight control can just be transplanted into a new stalk base.
Mike
Ishrub
02-06-2010, 02:56 AM
http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=79828
$10 hard to beat solution
Item: TH indicator stalk
Location: Adelaide
Item Condition: good condition
Reason for selling: not needed
Price: $10
Payment Method: cash or D/D
Pictures:
mcs_xi
04-06-2010, 03:31 PM
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp136/mcstannard_bucket/DSCF2448.jpg
That is the issue with the buzzing. A notch forms on the surface of the contact. This part can come off any 3rd gen. So you dont specifically need to replace the entire stalk. Its only 3 screws to take the assembly apart.
nevenkab
25-06-2010, 09:14 AM
http://i405.photobucket.com/albums/pp136/mcstannard_bucket/DSCF2448.jpg
That is the issue with the buzzing. A notch forms on the surface of the contact. This part can come off any 3rd gen. So you dont specifically need to replace the entire stalk. Its only 3 screws to take the assembly apart.
Thanks guys from a long term lurker.
The problem was exactly as described and even for a novice, was an easy fix!
It was more difficult to disassemble the steering column covers than it was to remove the stalk/ clean and adjust the indicator contacts.
Thanks again.
pgroom
30-10-2014, 10:52 AM
Sorry to drag up an old thread but this video may help out anyone else who has the buzzing indicator issue. http://youtu.be/wreSen7IxRQ
itsfootball
31-10-2014, 06:04 PM
My wife TF has the same problem, this thread will help me fix the problem.
Thanks
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