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leftinthedust
20-01-2012, 03:35 PM
Hey guys, I've had the dredded ticking noise coming from my car for a while, happens when the car warms up and typically on idle.
Ive put together a quick diy to replace the valve see below...

They call it a canister purge valve at mitsubishi stealerships, note the part number on bag and receit. cost is a bit steep at nearly $129!

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/carbonseals/380ecv007.jpg
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/carbonseals/380ecv008.jpg

The valve is behind intake manifold...
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/carbonseals/380ecv001.jpg
looking from passenger side
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/carbonseals/380ecv002.jpg
put a spanner on the top nut and undo to allow better access
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/carbonseals/380ecv005.jpg

Remove the electrical plug by squeezing together, pull of hoses on either end of the valve (plastic cylinder)
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/carbonseals/380ecv006.jpg

the valve once out,
http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b266/carbonseals/380ecv003.jpg
I tried blowing it out and spraying it out with MAF sensor cleaner to see if this might fix the valve but after reinstalling it, the noise was still present.

I then installed the new valve which is just a reverse of getting it out, started the car and ... no more noise. thanks for checking this out guys.

*edit; I had to resort to buying and installing this myself as I was 1400km past 130,000km warranty period and mitsubishi didnt want to honour the warranty after this point, I even tried their goodwill clause as they call it and still I was denied... even though my family have 7 late model mitsubishi cars (we're a loyal bunch) they wouldnt replace my $129 valve :(

TreeAdeyMan
20-01-2012, 04:02 PM
Thanks for the DIY mate, should help a few members.
I tried MAF sensor cleaner and blowing through mine as well, no change.
But then mine wasn't faulty to start with!

Steeler
21-01-2012, 07:17 AM
Massive thanks leftinthedust for taking the time to post pics buddy, mine is under warranty but might have a crack at cleaning before asking Mitsu to take a look.

Cheers
Steve

mike481050
21-01-2012, 07:55 AM
Cheers

Another Toowoomba 380 owner I see.

Seeing a few of them about town recently.

leftinthedust
21-01-2012, 08:40 AM
no probs, if you lift the bonnet of your car while its running you can follow the noise to the ecv (if this is the culprit) put your hand on it and you can feel the clicking inside.

yep a couple of us in toowoomba dude!

TreeAdeyMan
21-01-2012, 09:40 AM
Even when it's OK it pulses, so don't let that fool you!

telpat16
21-01-2012, 09:59 AM
Cheers

Another Toowoomba 380 owner I see.

Seeing a few of them about town recently.

Mine was there on and off for a few days a couple of weeks back :)

leftinthedust
21-01-2012, 11:07 AM
Even when it's OK it pulses, so don't let that fool you!

understood, but just looking at it when it doesn't tick wouldn't indicate a problem to me ( of course it may pulse when you touch it), I guess hearing the noise then holding it to be fairly sure that IT needs replacement and not something else.

WDF
24-01-2012, 09:54 AM
What other symptoms are there besides ticking noise on idle? Mine makes this raffle ticket spinning noise every time I take off after I start up the car from being parked hot or cold doesn't matter. Was wondering whether this is the ECV too?

leftinthedust
24-01-2012, 10:08 AM
What other symptoms are there besides ticking noise on idle? Mine makes this raffle ticket spinning noise every time I take off after I start up the car from being parked hot or cold doesn't matter. Was wondering whether this is the ECV too?

I didnt notice any other real symptoms apart from what was mentioned earlier in this thread.
Try hard to locate where the noise is coming from, does it come from around those places I have taken pics of at the back of the motor or somewhere else??

leftinthedust
29-01-2012, 08:31 PM
I've noticed a little better economy since replacing the ecv, and the car itself's fuel usage normally says 14ltrs per 100ks in the suburbs. now returning 12.9ltrs a 100k.

chrisv
30-01-2012, 04:00 AM
Very interesting!!!

JoshSX
07-05-2012, 11:55 AM
is this valve different to the solenoid? mitsushiti said they replaced my EGR last year and today I took it back to them saying nothing had changed and now they are saying they need to replace the ECV solenoid and trying to quote me $275 for it as im 2 months or so out of warranty.. if this is the same shit they are going to change Ill just do it myself!

TreeAdeyMan
07-05-2012, 03:38 PM
is this valve different to the solenoid? mitsushiti said they replaced my EGR last year and today I took it back to them saying nothing had changed and now they are saying they need to replace the ECV solenoid and trying to quote me $275 for it as im 2 months or so out of warranty.. if this is the same shit they are going to change Ill just do it myself!

The EGR valve and ECV solenoid are different things/parts.

The EGR valve controls exhaust gas recirculation (fumes collected from the crankcase), the ECV solenoid controls the release into the intake plenum of unburnt fuel vapours collected from the fuel tank and condensed/stored in the charcoal cannister.

$275 to replace the ECV solenoid is highway robbery, it's a 10 minute DIY job as shown earlier in this thread and a brand new one from the spare parts counter of your local stealership should be no more than $130. I got my replacement one second hand from a member here for $65. Didn't fix my ticking noise problem however as there was nothing wrong with my ECV solenoid to start with!

KJ.

ute83
08-05-2012, 08:38 AM
The EGR valve and ECV solenoid are different things/parts.

The EGR valve controls exhaust gas recirculation (fumes collected from the crankcase), the ECV solenoid controls the release into the intake plenum of unburnt fuel vapours collected from the fuel tank and condensed/stored in the charcoal cannister.



KJ.
Just an add on to your description.
EGR is exhaust gas recirculation which takes exhaust gases from the exhaust system and recirculates them back into the combustion chamber to cool the process and decrease some pollution, NOT fumes from the crankcase, that's the job of the PCV system. ( Positive Crankcase Ventilation )

rex2ce
12-05-2012, 02:15 PM
I disconnected my EGR , the ticking stopped , but CEL light has not gone away after 150klms,I have now plugged the connector back in does anyone know how to reset CEL?
Cheers

TreeAdeyMan
12-05-2012, 03:49 PM
Just an add on to your description.
EGR is exhaust gas recirculation which takes exhaust gases from the exhaust system and recirculates them back into the combustion chamber to cool the process and decrease some pollution, NOT fumes from the crankcase, that's the job of the PCV system. ( Positive Crankcase Ventilation )

Yep, mixed up the EGR with the PCV there! Too many three letter acronyms!

Mecha-wombat
12-05-2012, 04:27 PM
I disconnected my EGR , the ticking stopped , but CEL light has not gone away after 150klms,I have now plugged the connector back in does anyone know how to reset CEL?
Cheers
Need a OBDII to clear it

telpat16
12-05-2012, 08:27 PM
Yep, mixed up the EGR with the PCV there! Too many three letter acronyms!

That's the trouble with JAFAs.

ie Just Another F&$&$& Acronyn

Mecha-wombat
12-05-2012, 09:38 PM
Hmmm Jaffa's

http://poppalina.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8341c6f1453ef0120a50f00dc970b-600wi

rex2ce
13-05-2012, 07:11 AM
Thanks for your help fellas , especially you telpat16, I bet your friends list stays empty with your attitude. BTW the cel was reset by disconnecting the battery for short time

telpat16
13-05-2012, 08:32 AM
It was a very tongue in cheek comment - you can see by my other posts in other threads I do try to be helpful to all on here where I can

In this case I know nothing- helpful or otherwise - about the ticking issue as happily it has not happend to my car yet

There are threads here discussing bluetooth OBDII scanners etc which can be found fairly easily on ebay (bluetooth or cable types) and allow you to read/reset CEL codes via free or cheap software on phone or pc



T

wbulldogs
19-08-2012, 07:56 PM
it seems my car have the same ticking noise, when idling I touch the valve and I can feel it ticking very quickly.

Has anyone found a third party part or it has to be genuine mitsu?

Mecha-wombat
19-08-2012, 09:26 PM
OEM AFAIK.

Its not a thing that will kill your car just sound like a diesel

bradhook
14-08-2015, 08:49 AM
I know this is an old thread, but I really appreciate this. I bought a 06 Series 2 last week with 136xxx on the clock and was worried and annoyed about the noise. A quick search revealed this, so I diagnosed it - and sure enough was this part. Went to the dealership across the road from my house and they had the part in stock for $113 inc. GST. Awesome. Thanks.

Madmagna
14-08-2015, 09:25 AM
You are lucky they had it in stock as Mits currently have nil stock and no ETA on new ones

bradhook
14-08-2015, 09:58 AM
That's lucky then! He said he had a couple, so if anyone else needs one in Adelaide - hit up Australian Motors in Wayville across from the showgrounds!

Looney_Toon
14-08-2015, 11:06 AM
Just come upon the topic and had a decent read.

I have just put a 3.8 into my magna, I had MitsFix do it, and I wanted to know if it would still be something I should be looking out for. The engine has between 104,xxx - 106,xxkms as far as I know.
Is this something that If I can find the part purchase it and put it in my toolbox so it can be changed quickly.
I like to solve any problems that are wrong with my car as soon as I can before it impacts anything.

Thanks for this thread though it has been helpful.

Madmagna
14-08-2015, 11:22 AM
Not at all, the purge valve is only used on the 380, the motor once converted to fit a Magna does not use this

Oh and just so you know your motor has 104662km on it plus about 15km we have added to it since road testing :)

TreeAdeyMan
14-08-2015, 11:43 AM
That's interesting Mal.
If it's not really needed why did MMAL fit it to the 380?
I understand they didn't use an "off the shelf" version of the 6G75 for the 380 but they modified it a little for the 380, eg fitting the 4 cyl intake snorkel instead of the proper 90 mm one.
Or was this annoying purge valve needed to comply with emissions regs?

Looney_Toon
14-08-2015, 11:46 AM
Hi,

Thanks Mal That is muchly appreciated.
I will be seeing you Monday hopefully after the funeral so it will be all good, As long as you got the KMs down fore it was test driven by you guys so then I know what I have and see what I can do about it, whether I get a another KL Cluster and get the engines kms altered.

Well That is handy to know something else to not go wrong.

Hows it driving ? Got the 380 Manifold on?

Thanks for all the help

Seldom
23-09-2015, 11:43 AM
I've noticed this noise and I am pretty sure it's this problem..

Is it really a "problem"? Is it going to cause any other problems to the car?

TreeAdeyMan
23-09-2015, 12:00 PM
I've noticed this noise and I am pretty sure it's this problem..

Is it really a "problem"? Is it going to cause any other problems to the car?

It's not really a problem, just an annoying noise.

Andrew16
27-09-2015, 06:59 AM
Just replaced mine oh the bliss there ia nothing worse imo than the ticking of a purge valve makes the whole car sound crap I was going to order one this week finally had the $130 then ladyluck shined down on me and I picked up a brandnew one along with a brand new thermostat both genuine for $30 wrapped

flyboy
27-09-2015, 10:17 AM
I picked up a brandnew one along with a brand new thermostat both genuine for $30

Where?

Steeler
27-09-2015, 10:33 AM
Where?

This, Where ?.

Andrew16
27-09-2015, 12:02 PM
Where?

from a bloke selling some 380 bits he had sold his car and had them laying around I was just lucky