Hi Guys,

In sight of the new NSW law ruling out 91 fuel entirely, What am i better off running e10? Or 95? Because as far as i know (correct me if i am wrong) 95 doesn't make a difference in an unmodified 3l magna engine? I've filled it and noticed no difference at all...personal observation obviously...can someone shed some light on this?

You will get less km out of e10 than 95. The ethanol burns differently. Whether you will save money over time is a different story, but i have heard and seen disgusting examples of price markup on PULP by those ****ing petrol vendors. BP independents all the way for me

I've been getting a lot of negative feedback on the affects of E10 on the motorbike I ride. It seems to be affecting the plastic tanks and fuel lines. I've not used E10, but in some countries it's all you can get even up to E85 and not all users are seeing the same problems, so nothing definitive.

Personally I'll be avoiding anything with Ethanol in it like the plague, especially in an older vehicle. Just my 2c

Avoid ethonol at all costs. I have heard that it can damage your catalytic converter. I don't care if its true but I wouldn't put that in my car if you paid me. My car doesn't know what ethonol tastes like and I don't ever want it to.

I've been running e10 in my cars for over 10 years without a drama.
My TJ2 runs cheaper on it.
It comes down to personal choice.

I put $15 bucks of that crap in my tank the other day to try it out and never again. It burned through it so quick and i'm sure my injectors are that little bit nosier after.

Woo first post.

Personal preference really..

E10 got me 80kms less out of a tank than 98 Octane.

$ per kms worked to be 2 or 3c difference between the two.

I don't run the stuff in my car.. Just don't like it really..

SuFz :ninja:

Well as a fellow 3ltr driver i can say i will never use e10 in the old girl again, i burnt through the fuel really quickly, and the idle was all other the place too..
i know the 95 does nothing for performance but IMO you will get more Ks using the more expensive stuff thus making it cheaper lol

I've been keeping a record of my fuel use for some time using MS Excel. last week I did some number crunching and found that UL95 uses 1L /100km less than E10 - approximately 14L/100 versus 15 (short trips, peak hour, AWD, lead foot) - my fuel consumption is significantly higher than most, so results may vary.

I just filled up with UL95 and paid 13 cpl more for the pleasure (P'd off seriously) - over 9% more $ and I expect to get about 7% better fuel economy.
So for me, it's not worth it. My 3rd gen runs fine on E10, although I am somewhat scared of medium to long term damage.

http://mefi.us/images/fuelly/smallsig-metric/102949.png (http://www.fuelly.com/driver/GrahamA/magna-awd)

from a manufacturers point of view, i'd suggest not running ethanol based fuels in cars not designed to take it.

at Holden, quite a few parts were changed when the cars were developed for ethanol use.

why are they getting rid of 91 altogether? surely the price of 95 should drop if thats what they're forcing you to use

Fair dinkum, you mob are a bunch of girls. Do you really think that state legislators and the fuel companies plus the car manufacturers are going to "force" something on us that will damage our vehicles? Is it part of a secret conspiracy? Mitsubishi vehicles made since 1991 have been designed to run on E10 (see their website).

Ah, this old gem.
I've been running E10 almost exclusively for nearly 7 years. One would imagine I would have seen any detrimental effects by now?:eh: I monitor fuel consumption each and every time I fill up, never saw any difference between 91 and E10. The few times I used "premium" as a test I didn't see any appreciable gains, so back to the old E10.

people who say that e10 affects a magna and it uses a whole heap more fuel etc are nuts. it makes sfa difference in a magna, maybey might use a tiny bit more fuel, but its still costing you about the same or less than 95 of normal 91. my magna ran better on 95 e10, a fuel sold exclusively by united (up here anyway). i bet if they didnt have to disclose the fact that it contains ethanol, none of you guys would pick up the difference between e10 and reg ulp. like those dipshit who complained about fluoride going in the drinking water. they said that they could taste the difference in the water in cairns the day that it was added. little did they know that it would take about 1 - 2 weeks before it reached their taps lol

people who say that e10 affects a magna and it uses a whole heap more fuel etc are nuts. it makes sfa difference in a magna, maybey might use a tiny bit more fuel, but its still costing you about the same or less than 95 of normal 91. my magna ran better on 95 e10, a fuel sold exclusively by united (up here anyway). i bet if they didnt have to disclose the fact that it contains ethanol, none of you guys would pick up the difference between e10 and reg ulp. like those dipshit who complained about fluoride going in the drinking water. they said that they could taste the difference in the water in cairns the day that it was added. little did they know that it would take about 1 - 2 weeks before it reached their taps lol

Simple science states that ethanol in fuel burns more rapidly than petroleum. Therefore more fuel is required to keep the same forward movement.

Most E10 by the way is 93-95RON as the ethanol content in 91RON ups the knock value a bit

people who say that e10 affects a magna and it uses a whole heap more fuel etc are nuts. it makes sfa difference in a magna, maybey might use a tiny bit more fuel, but its still costing you about the same or less than 95 of normal 91. my magna ran better on 95 e10, a fuel sold exclusively by united (up here anyway). i bet if they didnt have to disclose the fact that it contains ethanol, none of you guys would pick up the difference between e10 and reg ulp. like those dipshit who complained about fluoride going in the drinking water. they said that they could taste the difference in the water in cairns the day that it was added. little did they know that it would take about 1 - 2 weeks before it reached their taps lol
On a side note, I've heard bad things about United fuel quality, so I just stick with BP, Shell, or Caltex.
Other people heard/do similar?

10yo cars or newer will be fine. Older cars don't run right on e10. Fuel economy is a lot less and if you do the sums it's works out a few bucks a tank between e10 and 95. That's for cost per kilometre.

The fuel companies have us all wrapped around there little fingers. If I pull up at to get fuel at the bowser and there is 3 options of fuel that can go in my car, e10, 91, 95, 98. Well I can tell you we are not the winners. Fuel companies are just taking the piss out of us and making the money. A good example is Coles and woolies(Safeway), the are massive corporate organisations out to make money. Anything they get involved in is a well profited business.

10yo cars or newer will be fine. Older cars don't run right on e10. Fuel economy is a lot less and if you do the sums it's works out a few bucks a tank between e10 and 95. That's for cost per kilometre.

The fuel companies have us all wrapped around there little fingers. If I pull up at to get fuel at the bowser and there is 3 options of fuel that can go in my car, e10, 91, 95, 98. Well I can tell you we are not the winners. Fuel companies are just taking the piss out of us and making the money. A good example is Coles and woolies(Safeway), the are massive corporate organisations out to make money. Anything they get involved in is a well profited business.

First bold segment, can you provide some proof please of your claims?

Second bold segment, I see 4 options, not 3. E10 (1), 91 (2), 95 (3) & 98 (4).

Third bold segment. Yes, businesses generally like to make a profit. It's usually the sole reason for a business.

First bold segment, can you provide some proof please of your claims?

Second bold segment, I see 4 options, not 3. E10 (1), 91 (2), 95 (3) & 98 (4).

Third bold segment. Yes, businesses generally like to make a profit. It's usually the sole reason for a business.

bold part is the only valid part of your reply.

jesus christ you are a cynical person. get a hobby man, stop trying to start shit on internet forums. every thread you post in goes to shit.

get another evo so you can work on that and stop stirring this place.

LOL
Anyway, to the OP, with a choice of 95 or E10 I would choose 95 despite the extra cost.

Another note, sometimes 95 isn't much cheaper than 98 so I've just been using Shell Vpower 98 & recommend it, but I haven't run enough tanks of 91 or done the maths to work out if the benefits outweigh the costs but I am very happy with my economy & power.
I've never used ethanol fuels in my cars & never will only because of one experience I saw at a dealership I worked at, where a car suddenly ran rich & developed a fuel usage problem, but that was several years ago. A lot of people use E10 with no problems, so to me it's a 50/50 argument, just comes down to personal preference.

Thanks for the replies guys,

Glad to see some fairly well backed up statements not just blind comments. I think i may try e10 for a bit and 95.

Is there any way to get an ECU tune to run better on 95 or a i dreaming?

what car do you have man?

pretty sure he has a th 3ltr

bold part is the only valid part of your reply.

jesus christ you are a cynical person. get a hobby man, stop trying to start shit on internet forums. every thread you post in goes to shit.

get another evo so you can work on that and stop stirring this place.

Amen to that

amen to that

oh lawdy der some truth bee'n towld

Personally I don't use e10 but as stated in prior posts any third gen magna or 380 will run on e10. 380's have a sticker in the fuel door to state the same

Disciple next time you have a panic attack about my business making a profit please read your attack at ego. Now run off like a good little boy and report this post too as you have done with nearly every post in the last 2 pages after all our reported post function seems to have been created just for you darling

Personally I don't use e10 but as stated in prior posts any third gen magna or 380 will run on e10. 380's have a sticker in the fuel door to state the same

Disciple next time you have a panic attack about my business making a profit please read your attack at ego. Now run off like a good little boy and report this post too as you have done with nearly every post in the last 2 pages after all our reported post function seems to have been created just for you darling

Surely 2nd gens too?

All Injected Mitsubishi's can run on E10
VACC WEBSITE (http://www.fcai.com.au/publications/all/all/all/3/can-my-vehicle-operate-on-ethanol-blend-petrol-)

I tried e10 98 ron in my old ADM 3.5l diamante and my current 3l JDM diamante and found a loss in economy. throttle response seemed to be down as well.