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I purchased these off eBay the other day. When I received them, me and my friend who has installed a few pairs of HIDs gave it a bash. But things werent as easy as we had planned.
For some reason, the 'wire lever' that holds the lights in place wouldnt fit around the new HIDs. Does anyone know the way around this? Maybe 380s only take certain HIDs?

Any help would be appreciated. Im pretty inexperienced at all this so simple terms would be appreciated :)

HID are ilegal when installing into a head light that doesn't have a HID diffuser :/ So better off with ordinary lamps to be honest.

HID are illegal when installing into a head light that doesn't have a HID diffuser :/ So better off with ordinary lamps to be honest.

I had them in mine and they were SHIT

If you have to go ahead the globe actually separates into two pieces and this will allow you to use the spring clip....be easiest with the headlight out though

better off installing IPF HIR's like I will be when I put the new front bar on

Got them in. Was a fair effort.

HIDs illegal? Guess that depends on the colour rating you install right (ie 6000k+)? I see heaps of cars these days with HIDs installed :/ Anyway, wouldnt be surprised if they are, what isnt these days.

Cheers for the help, ill post some pictures tomorrow

Got them in. Was a fair effort.

HIDs illegal? Guess that depends on the colour rating you install right (ie 6000k+)? I see heaps of cars these days with HIDs installed :/ Anyway, wouldnt be surprised if they are, what isnt these days.

Cheers for the help, ill post some pictures tomorrow

So you ignored the fact that they're illegal and that members who installed them said they were shit?

Without a projector retrofit all your doing is pissing off oncoming drivers and the people your driving behind no matter how much you adjust them down.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5n38wDe684

To avoid this PM 'MR SPL' on here about a projector retrofit.

So you ignored the fact that they're illegal and that members who installed them said they were shit?

Without a projector retrofit all your doing is pissing off oncoming drivers and the people your driving behind no matter how much you adjust them down.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5n38wDe684

To avoid this PM 'MR SPL' on here about a projector retrofit.

Just before I comment further. Have you seen the amount of HID systems on the road these days? Its ridiculous and I guess thats why one would never think that they are illegal.

5000k(pure white) are not exactly the brightest lights around. I've seen stock projector lights that are brighter, no one seems to get pissed off at that fact. I see your point though, the 55w kits may be brighter?

Personally, I find them way easier to drive with than halogens. They give a more even light which is easier to see, rather than having halogens that give a yellow glow.

Just before I comment further. Have you seen the amount of HID systems on the road these days? Its ridiculous and I guess thats why one would never think that they are illegal.

5000k(pure white) are not exactly the brightest lights around. I've seen stock projector lights that are brighter, no one seems to get pissed off at that fact. I see your point though, the 55w kits may be brighter?

Personally, I find them way easier to drive with than halogens. They give a more even light which is easier to see, rather than having halogens that give a yellow glow.

Must be the areas you drive in because i hardly ever see them and trust me there very hard to ignore ;) and yes they are definitely illegal.

The lower the kelvin rating the higher the lumen output which is why most OEM systems use 4300k but 5000k is still acceptable if your after more of a white light.

You just think it's easier to drive with them because they light up the foreground giving the illusion of more even light,you might be happy with that but you'll have hotspots shooting off which can be dangerous to other drivers.

Have a look through this site http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/forum.php? and you'll soon see.

The filament in a bulb, and the arc in a HID bulb, are different shapes and at different points. The reflector is precisely made to reflect the light from a specific bulb, and the back of the light is designed to hold the bulb in a specific place and rotated to the right angle.
If you put a HID bulb, or any other bulb that isn't the right type, the light source point changes and therefore the direction, spread, cuttoff of the light also changes. It's not that HID bulbs are illegal, it's that shining a bright light into oncoming drivers faces is illegal.
If you want to fit HID's, the reflector housing has to be designed to reflect from the source point of that bulb, or, cut open the headlight and fit an entire HID+projector lens assembly, or, buy a set off Mr.SPL http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92289

To be completely legal, the retrofit must also include headlight washers and autol-eveling motors. That is, the rear of the car sags due to load, the headlight dips to compensate. Also, trust me you wont want a head-on with another driver because of your blinding lights. Pringles, you say you see a lot of cars with HID? Are these OEM or aftermarket? Also, just because the car has projector lights does not mean it has HID. The 90's Fairelane had projector lights but use standard bulb and not HIDs as do some Holden and HSV and the new Falcons. Poorly aimed OEM lights are also defectable.

To be completely legal, the retrofit must also include headlight washers and autol-eveling motors. That is, the rear of the car sags due to load, the headlight dips to compensate. Also, trust me you wont want a head-on with another driver because of your blinding lights. Pringles, you say you see a lot of cars with HID? Are these OEM or aftermarket? Also, just because the car has projector lights does not mean it has HID. The 90's Fairelane had projector lights but use standard bulb and not HIDs as do some Holden and HSV and the new Falcons. Poorly aimed OEM lights are also defectable.

Patrols, Prados, Skylines, Soarers, Commodores etc. See them every night. I know for a fact that the import vehicles such as Soarers/Supras/Skylines would most likely NOT have OEM lights fitted but I could be wrong, not sure about the rest.

I do agree, many vehicles come with projectors with standard bulbs, my old Soarer had them set up like that. However, I guess some of the newer ones have HID fitted in the projectors.

5000k(pure white) are not exactly the brightest lights around. I've seen stock projector lights that are brighter, no one seems to get pissed off at that fact. I see your point though, the 55w kits may be brighter?

Personally, I find them way easier to drive with than halogens. They give a more even light which is easier to see, rather than having halogens that give a yellow glow.

Pardon the geeky response .... :)
The human eye is most sensitive to a yellowish green light and much less sensitive to bluish light, that's why you need more watts of bluish light to "see" the same "brightness" as yellowish light.
http://www.powertechnology.com/PDFs/WP_eyecolorsensitivity.pdf
Try an experiment with a set of coloured 25w party lamps ... which colour looks "brightest", which "darkest'?
Why do you think that many motorway lights (high pressure sodiums) are yellowish?

Another fact is that blueish light is scattered more than yellowish light as it travels through the air, hence the bluish light glares far more than the yellowish light.

Added link .... some specs applies to the USA, but the technical info is universal.
http://danielsternlighting.com/tech/bulbs/bulbs.html