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CRO@
09-02-2012, 10:08 AM
I'm about to place an order for forged pistons and conrods for my 6g72. I'm not too keen on installing them in my backyard but I was just wondering what's involved with a professional install.

Life
09-02-2012, 10:24 AM
Question... why not use a 74? its a stronger engine, offers more torque, and parts availably is similar.

TJTime
09-02-2012, 10:58 AM
What do you plan to do with your forged pistons?

Are you going down the turbo route? Or tough NA?

What cams you running? What power you wanting to get?

Professional install means taking your motor out and getting it built. I wouldn't do piston swaps in a backyard... Do you know how to space and gap rings in the piston???

bellto
09-02-2012, 12:29 PM
Question... why not use a 74? its a stronger engine, offers more torque, and parts availably is similar.

how??

Neo
09-02-2012, 12:34 PM
Question... why not use a 74? its a stronger engine, offers more torque, and parts availably is similar.


how??

Hold up.. I need to quote this.

This is going to be awesome.

T_double_U
09-02-2012, 12:40 PM
CRO@ where are you purchasing your rods and pistons from and how much are you paying?

Pickles
09-02-2012, 12:45 PM
its stronger because it gives out more power as a stock engine.

inb4 petty argument over grammar :P

i286
09-02-2012, 01:43 PM
how??


Main bearing cap is held by 16 bolts in 3.5 litre compared to 8 bolts in 3.0 litre.

CRO@
09-02-2012, 02:29 PM
Life: coz i've got a 3.0l and that's what i'm using
TJTime: i'm doing a twin turbo conversion. I'll just be running #6 cams and i'm aiming for about 350-400hpat the fly. And no, I personally don't know how to space and gap rings :)
T_double_U i'm getting the conrods and pistons from the states and i'm paying about $800 for the set of 6 rods and ARP rod bolts and $800 for the 6 pistons.

For future reference for anybody wanting to give their 2c on what "they" would do or what i'm doing is a waste of time... just don't. I've heard it all before.

maggie3.5
09-02-2012, 02:36 PM
Life: coz i've got a 3.0l and that's what i'm using
TJTime: i'm doing a twin turbo conversion. I'll just be running #6 cams and i'm aiming for about 350-400hpat the fly. And no, I personally don't know how to space and gap rings :)
T_double_U i'm getting the conrods and pistons from the states and i'm paying about $800 for the set of 6 rods and ARP rod bolts and $800 for the 6 pistons.

For future reference for anybody wanting to give their 2c on what "they" would do or what i'm doing is a waste of time... just don't.

I've heard it all before.

Ba Boom lol

T_double_U
09-02-2012, 02:59 PM
T_double_U[/B] i'm getting the conrods and pistons from the states and i'm paying about $800 for the set of 6 rods and ARP rod bolts and $800 for the 6 pistons.

Yer thats a good price for the pistons,with the conrods have you considered SPOOL rods? there now $640 and are what i was using in my engine build http://www.spoolimports.com/spool-conrods/mitsubishi/mitsubishi-6g72-conrods could save you a few dollars.

CRO@
09-02-2012, 06:05 PM
Hmmm you might be onto something there with the SPOOL rods... Definately a tasty option. I think I will keep that at the top of the list. Thanks for that :)

T_double_U
09-02-2012, 06:20 PM
Hmmm you might be onto something there with the SPOOL rods... Definately a tasty option. I think I will keep that at the top of the list. Thanks for that :)

No worries.

MadMax
09-02-2012, 06:29 PM
I've rebuilt a number of engines as a "backyarder" (under the carport actually). Nothing to it, BUT it helps if you take the engine out, strip it down, and take the pistons and block to get cleaned and measured so the pistons can be matched to bores. (I'm assuming you are buying standard size pistons and have an engine with no bore wear, here.) Rebuild with new gaskets, seals etc and bearing shells if needed. (Plastigauge is your friend here). If you get oversize pistons, a machine shop will need to do the bore and hone. If it is a high Km engine, working over the heads is worth doing.
I always measure ring end gaps, but have never needed to file any down.
Basically you are doing an engine rebuild, but it can be done at home, as long as you have the manual for procedures and torque wrench settings, and an adequate set of tools.

No, I don't want to know why you spent that amount of money on parts that are serviceable as is from the factory, in a stock engine. You are obviously up to something . . . . . . . .

Spetz
09-02-2012, 11:38 PM
I thought stock rods were already forged?

bellto
11-02-2012, 07:24 AM
Main bearing cap is held by 16 bolts in 3.5 litre compared to 8 bolts in 3.0 litre.

cheers man,

i always thought the 3.0L was stronger (not more powerfull)

i think thats why ego used it in his build.

Life
11-02-2012, 08:21 AM
cheers man,

i always thought the 3.0L was stronger (not more powerfull)

i think thats why ego used it in his build.

Nope, 3.5 is stronger... Engines are very similar except for the whole 2 bolt mains vs 4 bolt mains thing.

Not sure why they used a 3.0 on EGO's car. it could have been to keep torque down as it was already breaking things and slipping with every clutch installed. Could have been because the shorter stroke makes it revvier.

pantsman
11-02-2012, 08:46 AM
Higher RPM on the 6G72? oil squirters?

Neo
14-02-2012, 07:41 AM
Nope, 3.5 is stronger... Engines are very similar except for the whole 2 bolt mains vs 4 bolt mains thing.

Not sure why they used a 3.0 on EGO's car. it could have been to keep torque down as it was already breaking things and slipping with every clutch installed. Could have been because the shorter stroke makes it revvier.

Correct. It looooves to rev.

robssei
17-02-2012, 07:53 PM
the 6g72 tt dohc engines had oil spuirters, the dohc blocks (6g72) are very strong with 4bolt mains and from about 92 on had forged cranks too, dont think this applys to the sohc blocks

CRO@
18-02-2012, 08:05 PM
You are correct. The DOHC 6G72 had forged cranks from 92 onwards. Not sure about the 4-bolt mains.