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chow
11-02-2012, 01:53 PM
hey guys, i had a spare airbox laying around and i thought I'd try something,
managed to squeeze a pod filter into the airbox and have it all hooked up.

Got a spare filter and gutted it so i could use the frame of the filter to sit in the middle like it would normally with a standard airfilter in there so the box can close and seal up.

Would that be any better than having no box surrounding the pod filter?

chow
11-02-2012, 01:56 PM
http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/746/42169910151285916475503.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/217/42169910151285916475503.jpg/)

Theres the airbox witht he pod crammed inside it all hooked up.

http://img843.imageshack.us/img843/8821/40549810151285917215503.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/843/40549810151285917215503.jpg/)

And thats it on the car

chow
11-02-2012, 02:18 PM
would be great if you guys could opinionate on this, thanks :D

peaandham
11-02-2012, 02:32 PM
I would try a search bud because this topic will open up a can of worms.

Honestly it won't be much of an improvement if any because you are still getting the same amount of air through the snorkel. You could remove the snorkel but they are a design of Mitsubishi for a reason.

You will find if you run the pod unboxed, throttle response may suffer because you will be sucking hot air only in, the car may rev nicer but its not really good for the motor.

What im thinking about doing (not sure if it will pay off or not) is making a mold of the current snorkel and fiberglassing a new one, making it wider, taller and more hollow for less restrictions, and on top of that im thinking about PVC or Stainless Piping (for smoother air movement). Then on top of that i will grind the inside of my throttle body and polish the butterfly, once again for more efficient air movement.

At the end of the day only you can decide whether the sacrifice of throttle response is worth the induction noise, and what extent you want to go to, to only improve on the Mitsubishi design.

spud100
11-02-2012, 03:28 PM
Frankly the standard Magna filter flows very well.
Either try the JDM idea of a modification to the garnish panel below the main air intake, or somehow, difficult in an AWD is to make a shaped pipe from the oval entry in the filter box to an area where there is cold air below the car.

Personally the JDM idea looks good.
Gerry

chow
11-02-2012, 04:19 PM
Frankly the standard Magna filter flows very well.
Either try the JDM idea of a modification to the garnish panel below the main air intake, or somehow, difficult in an AWD is to make a shaped pipe from the oval entry in the filter box to an area where there is cold air below the car.

Personally the JDM idea looks good.
Gerry

would it be better just to remove the plastic garnish itself or trim the hole open?

spud100
11-02-2012, 04:25 PM
You really want to direct the cool air from in front of the radiator atraight into the front of the existing system intake. There should be positive pressure in this area, so the aim should be to direct this positive pressure directly into the air intake.
Unfortunatley the TE to TJ magnas aren't great for getting to a decent positive pressure region.
TL/TW with the New Zealand modified snorkel would be the best idea.
Unfortunately there just isn't space, in mthe fron of the earlier models to do this.
gerry

simonhaha
11-02-2012, 05:03 PM
i likes this (Y)

does ur car sound differnt?

chow
11-02-2012, 05:18 PM
i likes this (Y)

does ur car sound differnt?

yeah it has a slightly different tone, and with a box surrounding it, i feel that theres no loss at all, if anything it feels its got a little more guts.... not enough to blow your head but enough to notice :)

gonna modify the plastic garnish ontop of the grill that the airvent sits on so it has more air flowing in :)

bellto
11-02-2012, 05:48 PM
someone had already done this, im not sure who though. if you feel the compulsive need to run a pod filter, then this is the way to go. not because the lack of hot air will make that much difference, but because it looks standard.

from what i have experienced, removing the snorkel in my new car only makes the intake temp between 1 and 2 degrees hotter than with the snorkel on. so i dont think you would loose any measurable power by having an exposed pod, however, i would bet that you haven't gained any measurable power by doing this. imho, you have installed a component that doesn't do as good a job as the original (job being cleaning the air) and its been proven that the stock intake it more than capable of handling more than stock engines.

chow
11-02-2012, 06:00 PM
someone had already done this, im not sure who though. if you feel the compulsive need to run a pod filter, then this is the way to go. not because the lack of hot air will make that much difference, but because it looks standard.

from what i have experienced, removing the snorkel in my new car only makes the intake temp between 1 and 2 degrees hotter than with the snorkel on. so i dont think you would loose any measurable power by having an exposed pod, however, i would bet that you haven't gained any measurable power by doing this. imho, you have installed a component that doesn't do as good a job as the original (job being cleaning the air) and its been proven that the stock intake it more than capable of handling more than stock engines.

yeah i noticed, theres no gain or loss. Theres just more of a howl to the induction which i like and yeah response wise it feels the exact same as it would with a standard filter.. :)

HaydenVRX
11-02-2012, 07:16 PM
I'm thinking i'm going to cut the plastic above the grill in my car so the air from the grill comes through, then i also might heat up and bend the opening of the snorkel, don't think it will help much though.

robssei
12-02-2012, 03:04 PM
have the same setup, i have the jdm grillsurround that has slots from factory and foam either side of the snorkle opening so that air is drawn from the front grill instead of either side of the bonnet. i also removed the rubber directly infront of the snorkle so that air is forced in, although you would get more dust ingress so cleaning the filter more often is required. i have also run a 50mm diameter vaccuum cleaner pipe fron the bottom of the engine bay to the hole where the first resonator usually goes on the underside of the snorkle, i have a rubber angle on the end that faces into airflow and is cable tied to the lefthand tow hook. it wont suck up water in a flood situation as it is not the primary source of air, but when you rev the car yoou can here it drawing air nicely. all this helps the engine draw more cold air than standard.

mightymag
15-02-2012, 12:19 PM
THIS IS WHAT I DID IVE PLAYING ON THE IDEA MY SELF OF DOING WHAT YOU DID (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69252&page=11)

vlad
15-02-2012, 02:10 PM
See here for what I did with my KW. (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69540&p=1081014&viewfull=1#post1081014)

Shaun92
15-02-2012, 03:06 PM
I did a similar thing when i had a n15 pulsar, i ducted a pipe to the front bumper and used the shape of it to make a ram air intake, as long as the hole system is sealed it does make minor improvement espicaly when taking off from the lights, getting that nice cold air.

HaydenVRX
15-02-2012, 03:54 PM
See here for what I did with my KW. (http://www.aussiemagna.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69540&p=1081014&viewfull=1#post1081014)

Do you know if the honeycomb plastic behind the air filter is restrictive at all? i figures the car couldnt get better air into it as that would be the most restrictive part.

vlad
15-02-2012, 04:12 PM
Do you know if the honeycomb plastic behind the air filter is restrictive at all? i figures the car couldnt get better air into it as that would be the most restrictive part.
Do you mean in the afm? If so it cannot be removed as it is integral to the afm. It straightens and provides uniform airflow afaik.

chow
15-02-2012, 06:51 PM
well what im gonna do is find a snorkel that has the resonator on it and cut the hole bigger and feed a pipe from it to behind the bumper for the cold air so it has 2 ways of sourcing air :)

peaandham
15-02-2012, 07:06 PM
I myself im going to make a mold of my current snorkel out of fiberglass but its going to be completely hollow in the middle, wider, and taller.

dreggzy
15-02-2012, 07:22 PM
Wouldnt a pod filter mess with the MAF sensor? That is what's holding me back. I am worried it will make the car run lean?

vlad
15-02-2012, 08:32 PM
Wouldnt a pod filter mess with the MAF sensor? That is what's holding me back. I am worried it will make the car run lean?

Not if it is a properly designed ones that do not swirl the air. K&N make suitable ones

HaydenVRX
15-02-2012, 08:34 PM
Do you mean in the afm? If so it cannot be removed as it is integral to the afm. It straightens and provides uniform airflow afaik.

Just at the back of the airbox

vlad
15-02-2012, 09:28 PM
That is the afm with the honeycomb stuff

Dingers
15-02-2012, 10:08 PM
I've had this exact set up for more than a year as well as a whole heap of other people.

Makes no real difference just sounds better lol