View Full Version : How do you remove dash facia on a TF Executive?
ben205vs
28-02-2012, 05:39 PM
Hey guys,
I just ordered a new 'Heater Controller Assembly' off Mitsubishi today as the fan is only blowing towards your face no matter what setting it is turned to (demister, legs, etc).
Just wondering if anyone can tell me how to remove the facia around the controls? I can't see any screws anywhere and I don't want to stick a screwdriver in and hope for the best haha.
If a picture is needed if you don't know what i'm talking about then ill post one up. But its just the facia that goes around the heater controls, radio, speed alert, etc.
Thanks in advance.
MYKHVERADA
28-02-2012, 06:57 PM
That link is for a KJ Verada Xi, but this will be the same process for your car, just less the climate control. I used this on my KH Xi when changing the raido. Helped me a lot.
This Mitsubishi dash is one of the easiest dash boards I've ever had to take out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OumNUmN80x4&list=FLRufYttTVlsGyyHmXwQUyCQ&index=97&feature=plpp_video
Hey guys,
I just ordered a new 'Heater Controller Assembly' off Mitsubishi today as the fan is only blowing towards your face no matter what setting it is turned to (demister, legs, etc).
Just wondering if anyone can tell me how to remove the facia around the controls? I can't see any screws anywhere and I don't want to stick a screwdriver in and hope for the best haha.
If a picture is needed if you don't know what i'm talking about then ill post one up. But its just the facia that goes around the heater controls, radio, speed alert, etc.
Thanks in advance.
scorcher93
28-02-2012, 06:58 PM
Did you self diagnose the issue? It might be a good idea to check the connection on the unit at the rear of the center area (not the actual control assembly, the unit below and behind it).
Remove the drivers kick panel, and have a look at the blue cable coming down from the control unit. if it's broken there you'll need to order that part. However, if you're sure you've got the issue narrowed down to the control unit, then...
Open the centre console, place your selector in Neutral, and pull the surround out by putting your hand in the coin holder near the console, and clenching and pulling upwards. if your hands are too small, find another way of pulling it up. Once you have this out, remove the ashtray by pushing the black top flap down and pulling it out. Now put your hand through the hole, and grab the far end of the metal that acts as a top above the ashtray. this unit may be hard to remove, so pull at it. Once removed, you can pull the facia away. Pull the bottom out about 3cm's, then get a screw driver and poke it about a CM (just enough for leverage) through the gap between the top of the climate controls and the vent. push the handle of the screwdriver down so it levers the vent up and out. Apply for both sides, and pull it out enough so you can push back up on the screwdriver so it levers the lower unit down and outwards. Do on both sides, and the unit sound come out enough for you to see two screws holding the climate controls to the facia. loosen these, pull the facia away, and Remove the 3 (I think) cables that control temp, air direction (feet, face, demist etc) and recycle or outside air.
Refer to the Service manual too.
ben205vs
28-02-2012, 07:21 PM
That link is for a KJ Verada Xi, but this will be the same process for your car, just less the climate control. I used this on my KH Xi when changing the raido. Helped me a lot.
This Mitsubishi dash is one of the easiest dash boards I've ever had to take out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OumNUmN80x4&list=FLRufYttTVlsGyyHmXwQUyCQ&index=97&feature=plpp_video
Ah thanks very much for that mate. I just went out to the car with a torch and it all unclipped exactly like it did in the video.
You were right, it is one of the easiest dashes to pull apart haha.
ben205vs
28-02-2012, 07:27 PM
Did you self diagnose the issue? It might be a good idea to check the connection on the unit at the rear of the center area (not the actual control assembly, the unit below and behind it).
Remove the drivers kick panel, and have a look at the blue cable coming down from the control unit. if it's broken there you'll need to order that part. However, if you're sure you've got the issue narrowed down to the control unit, then...
Open the centre console, place your selector in Neutral, and pull the surround out by putting your hand in the coin holder near the console, and clenching and pulling upwards. if your hands are too small, find another way of pulling it up. Once you have this out, remove the ashtray by pushing the black top flap down and pulling it out. Now put your hand through the hole, and grab the far end of the metal that acts as a top above the ashtray. this unit may be hard to remove, so pull at it. Once removed, you can pull the facia away. Pull the bottom out about 3cm's, then get a screw driver and poke it about a CM (just enough for leverage) through the gap between the top of the climate controls and the vent. push the handle of the screwdriver down so it levers the vent up and out. Apply for both sides, and pull it out enough so you can push back up on the screwdriver so it levers the lower unit down and outwards. Do on both sides, and the unit sound come out enough for you to see two screws holding the climate controls to the facia. loosen these, pull the facia away, and Remove the 3 (I think) cables that control temp, air direction (feet, face, demist etc) and recycle or outside air.
Refer to the Service manual too.
I called an auto elec and he didn't know if it was operated electrically or by vacuum, and I wasn't sure either. So I called up mitsubishi and gave them the vin number, and they said it will be the contoller assembly $265 but there is none left in Australia so I have to wait 3 weeks for it to come from Japan.
I pulled off the driver side kick panel and I couldn't see a blue cable anywhere behind there... Where exactly does it run? From the control unit to where?
By the way, its only an executive and it only has the 3 knobs and a/c, rear demist switches. Not the climate control with the screen.
ben205vs
28-02-2012, 07:29 PM
Another problem is that when I turn the A/C switch on (and the green light comes on), most of the time it wont switch back off. Would that be a faulty switch? I have been told that it comes with the heater controller assembly but I have my doubts as it wasn't shown on the picture that was faxed to me from Mitsubishi spare parts.
MagnaP.I
28-02-2012, 08:51 PM
Firstly mate - you definitely do not have climate control. Not on any TF magna. Only the KE/KF/KH Verada's and some TJ Magna's.
By "Heater Controller Assembly" do you mean the dials that control the airflow & heater, or the actual blower behind the dash?
How did you diagnose this is the problem? Did you inspect it yourself or relied on the auto lecky?
The reason I ask is that your airflow system for your heating is completely mechanical. Your dials are manually operated and are connected to the various blowers/assemblies via cables. The heater assembly in the middle of the dash has flaps that are opened and closed using plastic levers on the side of the box. These rarely break with serious force so I don't think the heater assembly is faulty.
I'm far more certain that a cable has come loose and as a result the air flow is not being changed when you turn the dial. So before you go off and spend $260 (!!!) for a new heater assembly thoroughly inspect and be assured that it is the problem. If you need to, take out the drivers kick panel and inspect the side of the heater airbox. There will be white plastic levers on the side. Turn the air flow dial on the heater controls and see if the white levers on the side move. Try and move them yourself as they may be jammed. If they do not move then look for a thick purple wire around that area. It should be about 4mm thick and have a open ring on the end. This should be connected to a lever. If you cannot find the wire or the end of it is not connected to anything then this is your problem. In such case, the purple cable needs to be reattached to the right lever. The unattached lever shouldn't be too hard to find as it'll be the one with a massive shaft sticking out of it.
Otherwise the cable may be disconnected at the heater controls so undo the centre console incl. radio facia and inspect that two thick wires are connected to mechanical switches/levers. One of them will be purple and located behind the air flow selection switch and the other under the switch that controls where the air comes from (inside or outside).
Let us know how you go. If you need instructions on how to remove the console and/or drivers kick panel then feel free to ask. I've removed both manual heater controls and auto climate-control dashes numerous times.
scorcher93
29-02-2012, 05:46 AM
I called an auto elec and he didn't know if it was operated electrically or by vacuum, and I wasn't sure either. So I called up mitsubishi and gave them the vin number, and they said it will be the contoller assembly $265 but there is none left in Australia so I have to wait 3 weeks for it to come from Japan.
I pulled off the driver side kick panel and I couldn't see a blue cable anywhere behind there... Where exactly does it run? From the control unit to where?
By the way, its only an executive and it only has the 3 knobs and a/c, rear demist switches. Not the climate control with the screen.
Blue cable runs down from behind the controls to where all those white plastic parts are. its behind the centre stack. If you leave the seat where it is, and come in at an angle, you'll see it. If you pretend you're the drivers seat, and crawl under the wheel, it's on your left, at the back.
Madmagna
29-02-2012, 05:56 AM
Why dont you drop past here, I have used control units sitting on the shelf for far less and add to that may be simply a matter of a cable has come off, these are cable operated
ben205vs
29-02-2012, 04:53 PM
Oh, I pulled the kick panel off from near the bonnet cable. So your saying its on the centre console side? Problem is that now that I have ordered it, i'm not allowed to cancel it. I'm not too worried about the price of the controller assembly as I thought it would be much more.
I'll take another look and see if I can see any cables that have come off, are loose, or broken.
I have a few other questions I would like to ask about this car, but I would like to sort out one thing at a time. I couldn't be happier with this TF Magna, its only the 4 cylinder but it still does everything I need it to do haha.
MagnaP.I
29-02-2012, 06:10 PM
If I were you - I would seriously ask if there's anyway you can avoid having to buy it. It's just ridiculous to pay that much money for something you can get from for a fraction of the price at the wreckers. If you're talking about the controls that adjust the airflow/heating/cooling etc then they are like $30 Jollys in Dandenong or Ringwood. Otherwise if you're talking about the entire heater assembly (behind the dash and controls flow of air) then they are around $70 from Jollys. Provided - you do need to remove it yourself from Jollys. Other wreckers or Mal would ask a bit more but it would be removed for you. Anyway - Don't you pay for the item when you pick it up? Do they have your credit card details? Maybe you could just avoid picking it up lol ?
Anyway - you've taken off the right panel. Can you see the levers? You're looking for a thick purple wire cables that are connected to the white levers. It should look like this
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6223/6297706315_3441a0fab4_b.jpg
Is the purple wire attached to that lever? When you turn the dial for the airflow (i.e. the dial that controls where the air goes - face, feet, window etc) do those levers move?
ben205vs
29-02-2012, 06:57 PM
If I were you - I would seriously ask if there's anyway you can avoid having to buy it. It's just ridiculous to pay that much money for something you can get from for a fraction of the price at the wreckers. If you're talking about the controls that adjust the airflow/heating/cooling etc then they are like $30 Jollys in Dandenong or Ringwood. Otherwise if you're talking about the entire heater assembly (behind the dash and controls flow of air) then they are around $70 from Jollys. Provided - you do need to remove it yourself from Jollys. Other wreckers or Mal would ask a bit more but it would be removed for you. Anyway - Don't you pay for the item when you pick it up? Do they have your credit card details? Maybe you could just avoid picking it up lol ?
Anyway - you've taken off the right panel. Can you see the levers? You're looking for a thick purple wire cables that are connected to the white levers. It should look like this
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6223/6297706315_3441a0fab4_b.jpg
Is the purple wire attached to that lever? When you turn the dial for the airflow (i.e. the dial that controls where the air goes - face, feet, window etc) do those levers move?
Hey mate, just went out and had a look
http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n619/superchargedvs6/magna.jpg
That lever (where the red arrow is pointing too) was disconnected, so I connected it back up and it started working again. But I think it is worn because it pops out again so I just have to be careful when turning the knob.
With the heater controller assembly, it is getting sent to my workplace and going to be put on their account. They said that it is not returnable once I have ordered it, so it's too late. Or else I would have just not and went to pick it up haha.
As I said before, when I press the A/C switch on, most of the time it wont turn back off. I was told by Mitsubishi that I can't buy that switch seperately but it will come with the heater controller assembly, so I guess I can still use the new heater controller assembly. I think that the rear demister switch does the same thing but I rarely use it.
magna_vrx_turbo
29-02-2012, 07:25 PM
Try and get out of having to buy it, $265 is way over priced.You can also get the AC and dimister buttons from jollys for under $25.
MagnaP.I
29-02-2012, 08:35 PM
Well good to hear you found the problem. Pity you spent all that money for the heater/air control knobs. Can't believe Mitsu ask so much for them! Extortion. At least it goes onto your work account I suppose. Don't mean to add salt into the wounds but I recently sold one for $25 incl. postage to SA!
The A/C switch can be removed but its fairly tricky as you need to remove the knobs, gears & shafts at the back of the unit. Possible to do but when you can get the entire unit for $40 (with warranty) from the wreckers - its not worth worrying about it. Not to worry now - what's done is done. The new control unit will have the A/C switch and Demister switch so that is all sorted anyway.
As for your issue with the levers. You can actually remove the middle funny Y shaped levers. They are tightened onto the unit by a small black screw right in the centre of it, where it pivots and spins. I'd recommend undoing this and replace it or make a small modification to the top part of the Y piece ensure it stops popping out. If the shaft is long enough then I'd glue a ring of somesort to the end (e.g. washer, nut etc) or if there's enough clearance between the lever and the heater box then drill a small hole down the centre and glueing in a small wide headed screw. Home butcher jobbies ftw! :P Hope you're able to fix the issue and keep enjoying the car.
Madmagna
01-03-2012, 05:30 AM
Come on guys, stop bagging out Mits, this is a complex unit with several switches, is not a common part to sell and is surprising they even have stock anymore. Go and buy one for most other makes and you will be up for a lot more. You can not compare new price to some clapped out dirty part from Jolleys
The ac switch is most likely catching on the facia as it most likely has not been put back together properly in the past, as I said, I am more than happy to ahve a gander at it for you
The issue you seem to have in the pic is the outer cable has come off the retaining clip
ben205vs
01-03-2012, 06:09 PM
Come on guys, stop bagging out Mits, this is a complex unit with several switches, is not a common part to sell and is surprising they even have stock anymore. Go and buy one for most other makes and you will be up for a lot more. You can not compare new price to some clapped out dirty part from Jolleys
The ac switch is most likely catching on the facia as it most likely has not been put back together properly in the past, as I said, I am more than happy to ahve a gander at it for you
The issue you seem to have in the pic is the outer cable has come off the retaining clip
Are you in Montrose? Because I live in Ballarat haha, its a fair drive. The A/C switch don't seem to be getting caught on the facia. Its like when I press it on, it clicks like normal, but when I go to turn it off it presses in but doesn't click, and the A/C light stays on. Then after a while, it might work or a second but then starts doing that again.
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