Hey guys,

alright so my friend has this new Hyundai with has this system called HALO. So basically as soon as you drive over 40km/h the central locking actives and all the doors lock. They don't unlock until the engine has been shut off and ignition key removed.

Is there some way of doing this to a KH Verada?

Cheers.

Why would you want to? Do you expect a car hijacker to jump into the car at 40 KPH+? Or a suicidal passenger to jump out? If you look at too many new cars and lust after their features, and try to adapt them to your KH, you will end up with a real mongrel of a car. Keep it pure, keep it simple.

I suppose you could design some electronics to monitor the gearbox output sensor, and hook it into the central locking systyem . . . .

Why would you want to? Do you expect a car hijacker to jump into the car at 40 KPH+? Or a suicidal passenger to jump out? If you look at too many new cars and lust after their features, and try to adapt them to your KH, you will end up with a real mongrel of a car. Keep it pure, keep it simple.

I suppose you could design some electronics to monitor the gearbox output sensor, and hook it into the central locking systyem . . . .

Well the doors don't unlock until the key is removed, or until they're unlocked from the inside. I'd want this feature because one night driving home from work I had a guy try and open the door on my car when I was alone at the lights. I don't care if they take my stuff, but not my car.

I carry a clublock next to my passenger seat. Need I say more.....

There are plenty of these gadgets on eBay that you can buy and wire up to do it. Speak to Mike (mcs_xi) or do a search on here for other fancy stuff like auto light sensing headlights etc and you will find people who have done them.

electrified door handles?

Well the doors don't unlock until the key is removed, or until they're unlocked from the inside. I'd want this feature because one night driving home from work I had a guy try and open the door on my car when I was alone at the lights. I don't care if they take my stuff, but not my car.

You can do this yourself simply by pressing the lock button on the remote once you are inside the cabin and the door is closed. You should get into the habit of holding the remote in your hand and follow the same sequence each time you drive the car - press green unlock button.....open door and enter car...shut door....press red lock button....key in ignition and away you go. This is recommended standard procedure by police to people who say they feel uneasy returning to their car in dodgy situations. The HALO system as you describe it would not lock the doors in cases of hijack....only at speeds above 40Kph.

You can do this yourself simply by pressing the lock button on the remote once you are inside the cabin and the door is closed. You should get into the habit of holding the remote in your hand and follow the same sequence each time you drive the car - press green unlock button.....open door and enter car...shut door....press red lock button....key in ignition and away you go. This is recommended standard procedure by police to people who say they feel uneasy returning to their car in dodgy situations. The HALO system as you describe it would not lock the doors in cases of hijack....only at speeds above 40Kph.

Nah it works for hi jacking, it merely waits for you to accelerate over 40km/h so to not lock your keys inside the car if you hope out or something. They remain locked, at 0km/h until they're unlocked again or the engine has been shut off and keys removed.

There are plenty of these gadgets on eBay that you can buy and wire up to do it. Speak to Mike (mcs_xi) or do a search on here for other fancy stuff like auto light sensing headlights etc and you will find people who have done them.

Hey mate, what would I be searching for on eBay?

Also, already bought myself auto wipes/lights! and auto closing windows.

Here is one, but if you want it to be activated at a set speed you need to buy the speed module and the auto locking module.
http://www.kptechnologies.com/products.php#/10

TJ - one flick of the key unlocks the driver's door only, once in - if you are by yourself - just lock it manually from the inside. Easy!

Call me old fashioned, but I don't see the need for things I can do myself, like turn windscreen wipers on and off, headlights, door locks etc. Of course, things like traction/stability control, ABS and reversing cameras are a different thing altogether.

TJ - one flick of the key unlocks the driver's door only, once in - if you are by yourself - just lock it manually from the inside. Easy!

Call me old fashioned, but I don't see the need for things I can do myself, like turn windscreen wipers on and off, headlights, door locks etc. Of course, things like traction/stability control, ABS and reversing cameras are a different thing altogether.

I will call you old fashioned! haha. Well you see the thing is, there are all these new cool features on new cars nowadays, but to be honest, I still really love my car so I wouldn't be buying anything new - especially when I can add all these features for a fraction of the price. I take great amusement when I can say my 2000 Mitsubishi Verada has more features than some newer Lexus models.

You can do this yourself simply by pressing the lock button on the remote once you are inside the cabin and the door is closed. You should get into the habit of holding the remote in your hand and follow the same sequence each time you drive the car - press green unlock button.....open door and enter car...shut door....press red lock button....key in ignition and away you go. This is recommended standard procedure by police to people who say they feel uneasy returning to their car in dodgy situations. The HALO system as you describe it would not lock the doors in cases of hijack....only at speeds above 40Kph.

I haven't tried this although wouldn't it trip the anti-theft? I know if you lock the vehicle using the drivers door lock the doors simply lock, however if you hit the red lock button on the remote, it activates the anti-theft (the SECURITY light on the dash) and the green button unlocks it?

you may be able to study the wiring diagram from a JDM Diamante, as my Diamante locks doors above 20km/ph. auto unlocks on the drivers door when i turn car off, passengers stay locked.

you may be able to study the wiring diagram from a JDM Diamante, as my Diamante locks doors above 20km/ph. auto unlocks on the drivers door when i turn car off, passengers stay locked.

That would be down to the JDM specific ETACS unit.

It would be next to impossible to integrate one into Aus cars. The main reason for this is the Multiplex wiring the JDM cars have.
the next issue is our BEM is made by Bosch and links with other Bosch supplied units, and would be a massive job to remove.


I can have the anti jacking feature in my car as part of the keyless go. I can set it up to function with the factory alarm so it won't arm itself when the doors lock, but it is annoying when it locks people in. The system will also unlock the doors when the engine is switched off.

Mike

Why not wire up something so that the doors lock when the car is put in drive then have them unlock when you put it back to park? You could tap into the lights on the dash to do it. Have a look at the wiring diagrams in the manual to figure out the specifics.

I had a look at the BEM wiring diagram and there is a wire for All Lock, Driver Unlock and All unlock. I reckon a 3 way toggle switch (I, off, II). This will give you a user-friendly lock/unlock switch. From there, I don't think it would be too much of a hassle to wire up a module which, once the speed-wire has a certain current in it (it actually pulses, so maybe go buy PPM, or something) then it triggers the All-lock.

If you want my personal opinion, automatic lock is a very dangerous tool, especially with vehicles with electronic locking. While you may be aware that the car auto-locks, passengers won't. If in an emergency you need to vacate the car, "Oh shit sorry, the car auto locks. Let me just remove the key. hang on" will be part of the conversation.

I reckon stick with manual locking and unlocking.

It could also be seen as an inconvienance. You have to stop and restart your car if you want to close the gate, or if you need to briefly leave the car.

If it's a security issue, I reckon my idea of having a big lock/unlock button is awesome. I'm going to toy with this wiring and see what I can do with it.

I had a look at the BEM wiring diagram and there is a wire for All Lock, Driver Unlock and All unlock. I reckon a 3 way toggle switch (I, off, II). This will give you a user-friendly lock/unlock switch. From there, I don't think it would be too much of a hassle to wire up a module which, once the speed-wire has a certain current in it (it actually pulses, so maybe go buy PPM, or something) then it triggers the All-lock.

If you want my personal opinion, automatic lock is a very dangerous tool, especially with vehicles with electronic locking. While you may be aware that the car auto-locks, passengers won't. If in an emergency you need to vacate the car, "Oh shit sorry, the car auto locks. Let me just remove the key. hang on" will be part of the conversation.

I reckon stick with manual locking and unlocking.

It could also be seen as an inconvienance. You have to stop and restart your car if you want to close the gate, or if you need to briefly leave the car.

If it's a security issue, I reckon my idea of having a big lock/unlock button is awesome. I'm going to toy with this wiring and see what I can do with it.

Correct. The BEM can be tricked into unlocking all the doors with a single remote press by playing with those two pins.

The TJ onwards will have a feature that unlocks the doors when a crash occurs anyway so the security issue is null for those cars. I have found that passengers get the shits when you pull up and have to unlock the doors to let one of them in or out if the engine is running. It is annoying.

Be careful you don't simply nick the lock wires from the key cylinder. If you do that, the BEM will think the car is locked with a key (even if you are moving and the engine is on) and will sound the factory alarm if you happen to have a passenger unlock the door manually. Bad news.

I should add, the USDM cars have a central locking switch on both front doors. Part of their rules over there apparently. So have a look into how it is wired and go from there. The BEM however, doesnt do twin stage unlocking either from what I recall.

Mike

Mike