View Full Version : Where should blind spot mirrors be located?
driverx
09-03-2012, 05:10 PM
Our car came with small circular convex mirrors glued (?) to the upper inside corner of each side mirror. My thought is that the best place for them would be the outside lower corner...
What do you guys think? Should I move/replace them?
It's very annoying to me. They stop me from seeing whats behind me (even though I guess the main rear-view mirror is for that), plus it makes more sense to see things in my blindspot closer to where they are actually located in the view of the mirror. For instance, as a car comes from my right side behind me, into my right side blind spot, it's image passes from the inside of the mirror, through the middle, and out the outside lower portion. If the blindspot mirror was there, it would let me hang onto the image as long as it can, and would logically be located where my eye expects it to be.
Am I crazy? Too crazy?
Magnarada
09-03-2012, 05:38 PM
Your not crazy, afaik they should be in the outside lower corner. All the ones i've seen have been in that position.
My opinion only, but I think they are a pain in the neck, and do not help if you have your mirrors correctly adjusted.
dreggzy
09-03-2012, 10:05 PM
They should be located in the bin and not on your car. use your existing mirrors and have a quick peek over the shoulder. Cars don't come with blind spot mirrors for a good reason.
scorcher93
09-03-2012, 10:18 PM
Yeah I've found that they aren't all that benificial. Head check is safer and easier anyway, provided you're in decent health (no bad necks etc). I found when I was going for my P's in a Honda with those little mirrors, I found that to properly utilise the mirror, I had to move my eyes to the mirror, and wait for my brain to adjust to the different view and to be more sensitive to the contents of the mirror (basically, what you see in real life is 1:1 ratio. the mirror sqeezes more stuff into the surface area due to the curve and it reflecting more of the environment. Therefore you have to squint and take into account the new view of the mirror and how everything is smaller in the mirror. By the time your brain adjusts and takes in what it can see and has judged whether there is a car next to you or not, it would have been quicker to just turn your head.
Rip them off. if you can't, buy new mirror glass. $20 each at Mits.
This is one of those driver skills that really needs to be taught correctly from the get go, if people learned how to setup their mirrors properly then there wouldn't be a need for these stupid dodgy things stuck on top. There are the exceptions where the vehicle is ill equipped, and head checks do generally suffice in these scenarios.
Something I find funny too, 9 out of 10 people who tell me they agree and know how to setup their mirrors properly fail to do so when asked to explain or demonstrate.
driverx
10-03-2012, 05:51 AM
I agree with the sentiment about having to adjust your eyes when you use the little mirrors, thats why I didn't like them. I thought maybe they would help if placed differently, so I might try that and then abandon them if it doesn't. I always check over my shoulder anyways.
Are they meant to help with towing a trailer or something? Maybe that is why previous owner put them on. I had never seen them on a sedan before this, I was used to them being on big trucks and 4x4s...
Also, any tips as to how to remove them?
To remove them you could slide a razor blade gently under the mirror aided by kero or turps as a lubricant....the razor will need to be one of the old style King Gillette style. Otherwise use a small paintbrush and paint turps or kero around where it is glued on - this may take a bit of time as it needs to soften the glue, however it will not harm the duco if you spill some.
gremlin
11-03-2012, 11:30 AM
there is no such thing as a blind spot when your mirrors are properly adjusted...
TreeAdeyMan
11-03-2012, 02:57 PM
there is no such thing as a blind spot when your mirrors are properly adjusted...
Agreed.
A 'game' I play when pulling up behind a car at the lights is 'can I see the driver's face in his driver's side external mirror?'
If I can, then his mirror is not adjusted correctly. It's adjusted for the same view as his interior rear view mirror, which is pointless and a complete waste of the external mirror.
I make a mental note 'be careful overtaking this one, he has blind spot(s)'.
From my experience around 80% of drivers with no restricted rear vision have their exterior mirrors mis-adjusted in this way.
Trucks, vans with no rear window, cars towing caravans or tall trailers etc excepted.
The exteral mirrors should be adjusted to cover the so-called 'blind spots'.
I adjust mine (both left & right) so that just as a vehicle disappears from view in my interior mirror, it appears in the side mirror, and vice versa, with a small overlap.
dreggzy
11-03-2012, 07:34 PM
Have you dumped them yet? Please do. I want evidence :D
driverx
12-03-2012, 05:44 PM
no not yet, will have to put it off until weekend probably, been very busy lately.
alas, more and more new cars come out with dual convex mirrors for drivers that do not turn their heads.
dreggzy
13-03-2012, 09:11 AM
The most ridiculous thing about them is that if not fitted correctly, they don't actually cover your blind spot. Incredibly dangerous if you get out of the habit of looking over your shoulder. Turf them as soon as possible.
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