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GrumbleGuts
25-04-2012, 10:02 AM
After solving me cold start problem by tracking down and replacing the Coolant Temp Sensor, I wondered why the ECU hadn't signal led a fault on the dash.

The car is using heaps of fuel and I suspected that it's running a rich fuel mixture so I've read the error code out of the ECU and it is telling me I have a faulty Oxygen sensor. Still no fault indicated on the dash.

Ok, so I pulled out the instrument cluster and found, to my surprise, there is no globe in the Engine Warning indicator position. Not only that, there was factory tape, taped over that indicator position. So, as far as I can tell, there has never been a globe in that position.

Can anyone shed some light on this? Does the Elite, for some strange reason, not have an Engine fault indicator?

Or has some smart mechanic taken the indicator out so that it looks like the engine is Ok?

Shamous69
25-04-2012, 10:23 AM
I could be wrong here but I don't think the light functions.. happy to be proven wrong though, maybe put a globe in and see what happens.
I have never seen a check engine indicator in any first gen i've driven.

GrumbleGuts
25-04-2012, 10:33 AM
I could be wrong here but I don't think the light functions.. happy to be proven wrong though, maybe put a globe in and see what happens.
I have never seen a check engine indicator in any first gen i've driven.

Seems that you are correct, I pinched a globe from another position and there was still no warning of malfunction from the ECU. I was just curious because I have seen so many threads about the Engine Warning light, and expected that the first gen with ECU would have the same warning system as later gens.

I guess I'll just have to check the ECU error code whenever I suspect a fault.

BCX7
25-04-2012, 01:23 PM
no CEL existed in first gen magnas. you gotta put led into the diagnostic connector in the enginbe bay.

veeone
26-04-2012, 03:52 PM
Yup alot of early EFI stuff does not have warning lights.I have had several injected BMW bikes and they have no warning light either.
Most systems have a fail safe mode so the motor will still run if say an oxygen sensor or MAF malfunction.
Often see where the CEL globe has been removed from some cars as so many times the warning light trips and nobody can ever find a problem.
Quite a common practice out there in dealership land!! Vee