hows it going , i recently bought a ralliart magna #38. an looking to build a quick n/a car as i am still on my p's, any1 have any idea's where to start , atm its just got a full exhaust an a piggy back comp(G_reddy e-management( if you can get a tune for this or know where i can send the comp of an get a real tune please let me know) other then that she is prty stock engine wise(apart from what ralliart have done to it) best time was a 14.7 down 1.4 time but would love a 14flat . if u got any small tips or anything to get that little bit more of it let me know , thanks

Semi slick tyres?

Not going to pull much more out of that engine without either inducting it or replacing the internals. 14 seconds is very quick - that's Subaru WRX or an L77 V8 kind of quick. The newest SS commodore does around 14.1 seconds down the 400m sprint and that uses the 6L V8 with 270kw and around 380nm of torque. The Wrxey is barely 1300kg's and has an awd system to put the power down from 170kw engine. You've got a heavy 1.5tonne ralliart that's nearing 10 years of usage & age and is driven from the front which is harder to launch compared to the awd. There's only been a handful of people who've managed to get more power of the ralliart and that was via forced induction. The ralliart engine was modified with better cams, better heads that meant higher compression, an upgraded exhaust system, ecu tuning so there's not much more you can pull out of it.

That engine is fairly strung out at 180kw. I'd argue that the exhaust system won't do much, but the G-reddy system could help but I wouldn't expect miracles. The only tuning available to the magna ECU's outisde of third-party controllers is an SKR tune from Steve Knight in adelaide. But that isn't going to give you a second in the 400m sprint - doubt it'd do anything at all.

Tommo's on the money with the next non-drivetrain based mod you could do to save some time. Get some lightweight alu or carbon racing rims and slick tyres. After that you start taking out weight from the car (e.g. body kit, stereo, back seats, lightweight suspension etc) you start upgrading the engine. Also practice your launches and see if you can shave off some time with getting the perfect launch.

6g75 or spend 5000+ on the ralliart motor if you want a flat 14.

i was thinking around the 5k mark but yea as i said befor im on my p's so n/a is the only choice atm, tyres are a must, i got laucnhes down pat (:P i practice alot) dosint haft to b a 14 flat but thats what i hopeing for :) would love to stroke it or if possible, i just dont know where to get parts from, as i live in townsville north queensland i wouldint trust any performance mechanic around here couse all they seem to know how to do is fg's an ve's :) i just want something diferent, its all good to have something fast with force induction or that some1 els has build an u have just bought it. but love the feel of a quick n/a car, so if you get a few idea's where to start part wise is it possible to put the 380 heads on these or something? love my magna just dnt know where to start haha

Yeah would probably be best to do a 3.8L engine swap, if you are worried about getting caught on p's you can use the ralliart intake manifold or swap to the 380 one for some extra power.
As a comparison for you a ralliart manual will generally be 135-140fwkw, the 3.8 with the 3.8 manifold in the ralliart probs more the 165kw region and about 40nm more torque at a guess
Qtr Mile times 14.7-15 for the ralliart, 13.8-14.1 for the 6g75 equiped ralliart. If you want more then that you can always put a cam on the 6g75 which will add some top end power>

If you want you upgrade the ralliart engine everything has to be custom made pretty much, our engines have minimal aftermarket support.

Go 6G75, I've done 14.1 @ 99mph with some poor shifting.

i was thinking around the 5k mark but yea as i said befor im on my p's so n/a is the only choice atm, tyres are a must, i got laucnhes down pat (:P i practice alot) dosint haft to b a 14 flat but thats what i hopeing for :) would love to stroke it or if possible, i just dont know where to get parts from, as i live in townsville north queensland i wouldint trust any performance mechanic around here couse all they seem to know how to do is fg's an ve's :) i just want something diferent, its all good to have something fast with force induction or that some1 els has build an u have just bought it. but love the feel of a quick n/a car, so if you get a few idea's where to start part wise is it possible to put the 380 heads on these or something? love my magna just dnt know where to start haha

There's another Black Ralliart up North that has had and blown 6G75 (3.8L) - Everyone kept saying how amazingly quick it was - So bang for buck, its a great upgrade.

Hold onto the Ralliart Motor though.. You may be able to sell it and make a little back.

SuFz :ninja:

shift at 5500 rpm. i got my te down the quater in 14.7, and it cost me 100 dollars to do so. i welded up an exhaust of of 2.5in galvo pipe, advanced the stock cams and drilled a hole in the chopper plate on the crank andgle sensor so it had a base timing of 19 dbtc. it would have easily run a 14.5 or less in brisbane, but at the townsville track, it is up hill and 36 degrees.

shifting at 6200 the best i got was 15 flat.

shift at 5500 rpm. i got my te down the quater in 14.7, and it cost me 100 dollars to do so. i welded up an exhaust of of 2.5in galvo pipe, advanced the stock cams and drilled a hole in the chopper plate on the crank andgle sensor so it had a base timing of 19 dbtc. it would have easily run a 14.5 or less in brisbane, but at the townsville track, it is up hill and 36 degrees.

shifting at 6200 the best i got was 15 flat.

14.7 thats good for a te 4 sure, the ralliart have a big rev range diff an i got the lsd box an stuff. would love to have a chat 1 day mate, maybe a few things u could help me out with.

if your budget or skills stretch enough to pull down and rebuild motor mr roberto had some n/a rebuild stuff (cams pistons etc) for sale at decent prices.

otherwise 380 motor.

The first option will likely give a bit more power if done right.


I agree though that anywhere under 15 is decent for an everyday street car.

if your budget or skills stretch enough to pull down and rebuild motor mr roberto had some n/a rebuild stuff (cams pistons etc) for sale at decent prices.

otherwise 380 motor.

The first option will likely give a bit more power if done right.


I agree though that anywhere under 15 is decent for an everyday street car.

The above but don't buy one or the other. Buy both.

well guys got some decent tryres an some good laucnhes an got my self 1 14.1 down the 1/4 second best was a 14.4 an then rest where like 14.6 but yeah, so keen to do some work to it an try get it into 13's :) got some good plans

Wow good work!

Yeah 14.1 out of a ralliart is real quick! Good stuff.

Which track did you go to?

Go the 380 conversion with some decent internal work to the engine if you can afford it. Put the Ralliart engine in some bubble wrap and stick it away in the corner of your garage for a rainy day or in 20 years time if you want to make some good cash...or purely for centimental value.

That will get you flat 14s with some white line sway bars front and rear and some decent slicks semi-slicks.
Be prepared to send a little more and upgrade those brakes too.

Guessing that's a 14.5 at wsid. Ill try go this week.

well guys got some decent tryres an some good laucnhes an got my self 1 14.1 down the 1/4 second best was a 14.4 an then rest where like 14.6 but yeah, so keen to do some work to it an try get it into 13's :) got some good plans

Time slip on the 14.1 pass? That's a quick time. Wat rpm were u changing at?

Photo of slip??

What sort of 60" and Trap Speed??

14.1 is damned good for a ralliart!

hahah i honestly canot find the 14.1 pass i found the 14.433 witch had a 60ft time fot 2.208 and speed was 94.73mph. it was run on the townsville track from about 3pm-6pm. ill chuck a pic of up slip 4 you guys, when it comes to the 380 conversion. is it as simple as a normal magna engine conversion? and also dose it need to be mod plated or can u slot that in without any engeinering needing to be done as i am on my p's witch = no engine modplate on qld =_=. very keen on just gettin my hands on a 380 motor and working on it in the bak shed untill she is ready to go in, but at the moment most importand thing is to get her paninted . im happy with the 14.1 (for now )